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Z8 Leaked specs and picture over at NR.
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The rumored z8 doesn't sound "bottom tier:, or even middle tier, since it would be more like 4 tiers now for Nikon in FF line... and if SD hopefully dies off soon, now is the time to die it off.
ghostfox_1
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If the leaked spec suggesting that the Z8 has only a tilting screen (not articulating) then I'm gone.... It's a feature I've really missed in my Z6 and Z7 having enjoyed it for years on my Fujis. It's a must have for me as a (primarily) landscape photographer.
Interesting. Also a landscape photographer, and I hate the flippy screens.
They don't work with L brackets, which nearly every landscaper photographer uses.
Can't imagine setting my camera on a tripod without one, where as all I gain with a flippy is better low angle portrait orientation shooting, ironically a time when an L bracket is a must use.
Mackiesback
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Who says there will be a Z6iii and a Z7iii? I could see an updated Z6 but Z7? Looking at the rumored specs of the Z8, what exactly do you think an updated Z7 would be?
A high MP body (60+) ??
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You would think they would have a name change for something like that.
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Sure, but there are a gazillion other parts in a camera ( If it were just chips, Fuji would not have a year wait for an X100V). Plus inflation. Plus a shrinking market. Those who are still buying tend to have more money, so it makes sense to sell upmarket. And a full frame stacked sensor is costly, from what I hear.
No thanks. I would still like to use the inexpensive UHS-I SD card to take photos.
Z6iii - 32-36 Mp, mechanical shutter
Z7iii - 60-80 Mp, mechanical shutter
Z8 - 45 Mp, no mechanical shutter
w/ similar body build as before
w/ similar body build as before
w/ more rugged body (i.e. a mini-Z9)
Yes, what you suggest seems very plausible to me. And I believe it's also plausible before the end of 2023.
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sirhawkeye64
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Personally I never found the lack of an articulating screen to be of much hinderance. Now if it was fixed LCD (like on the D7200 for example) then that would bother me, but at least the screens flip up and down (tilts) which I think for most people, is probably enough (the Fujis -- at least my XT2 -- did tilt upwards in vertical orientation, but not by much). i actually disliked the articulating screen on my d5200 because I was always fearful that it would break off either from use or an accident (the tilting LCDs on the Z cameras seem a bit more robust than some of the LCDs on the mid-range/APSC DSLRs. But that's just my two cents.
And considering the state of the Z cameras (minus the Z9) a lack of a flippy screen is probably the least of most people's worries, as you can work around them. Can't always work around a mediocre AF system and that's where Nikon should (and hopefully) focused on with the Z8 / Z? that's coming out in 14 days.
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Not at 3K. The Sony camera is about the Z8 price.
The Z7 initially launched at what 3300? Five years and lots of inflation later prices won't go down.
Just a high MP camera today would end up very niche. The exact opposite of a low cost model. Expect a lesser body with just higher MP to sell for more than the all rounder Z8 not a 25% discount.
My guess is Nikon expect the Z9 and Z8 pairing to take virtually all the potential buyers of the Z7.
A new Z6 makes sense. A Z7 that tries to fit into a narrow niche? Not so much
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Mackiesback
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I am kinda with you on that. If the Z8 specs are as rumored,, and it is priced under $4000, the Z7ii is essentially dead in the water. They may or may not release a higher MP update, who knows.
I am also not sure Z6 users want a 33MP update. That's approaching D810 territory and I remember not needing files that big when I had that camera. If I were to get my way with a Z6 update, it would be to have better AF for action, and better low light performance all with a MP count in the mid 20s. Basically ramp up all the benefits a smaller sensor allows for.
But, that's just me, and maybe they focus whatever update to the Z5 towards that area.
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By smaller sensor I think you mean lower pixel count sensor, since Z6 is FF.
One thing though: it's possible, maybe even likely, that given the processing power of the EXPEED 7, a higher pixel count might enable faster auto-focus, since more pixels on target gives the EXPEED 7 more info to work with, if the sensor-to-processor bandwidth is high enough. This may be particular true for AI-based AF processes like eye detection.
But other than cost, if the camera's processors have enough compute power and the sensor-to-processor bandwidth is high enough, there's not much down side to a higher pixel count. Per-pixel noise goes up of course, but for any given display size of the final image, the noise isn't much different. And you can always just increase the compression (for JPEG) or interpolate down to a lower pixel count if file sizes are an issue. Especially, on a Bayer-filtered sensor, interpolating 4 pixels down to 1 pixel has some attractive qualities (including IIRC better luminance signal-to-noise ratio and elimination of some chroma artifacts).
just Tony
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Whatever graphic was supposed to be on the apparently missing section of the circle that looks like it was physically chopped or bitten off, the point he made was primarily about the gap that the image implies by accident of the sloppy faking. There even appears to be an overhang which would be exceptionally odd.Unless there is no flash.OK, I accept your point that the Flash button is missing... Odd.Identical? The Z9 has a flash button, the "Z8" does not? It's been removed by either a poor photoshop job (likely) or by some "pre-chewing" feature. Where is the flash button?While there doesn't seem to be a single image of the Z9 at the same angle as in the NR image of the Z8, if you take a look at the available images of he Z9 and look carefully at the dial on the top right side (as seen from the front), you will see it is identical to that shown in the NR Z8 image. I shown an example here:Mode Button array, or Mode Cluster, the thing that says "Mode" on itWhat mode diall???I guess we're all going to ignore how poor of a photoshop job NR did?
What happened to the mode dial?
Does the Z 9 have a mode dial??
How about the D6...D3...D300...D500?
I dont think Nikons higher end models have a mode dial...so perhaps nothing is missing.
Ahh, that was the look NR was going for. What a value then that the camera comes "pre-chewed"! I'd likely have to take an expensive trip to get that feature! :-D
You can clearly see the other three buttons right? Where did it go? Or are Z8 owners deemed unworthy of the 4th button?
Semantics. Call it whatever you will, you know exactly what I am talking about. How about this, anyone with access to a Z9, tilt it down to the point where you can clearly see the word "Mode" on the farthest button. If the light source in this photo is from the upper left, do you really, truly see none of the top of the camera by the grip? You really, truly see the controls where the grip is clearly higher than the back line of the camera as shown in the "leaked" image, when the word "Mode" is as clearly visible as it is in this photo?
I assume we are talking about built in flash
This rumored Z 8 is still a higher end model, so perhaps no mode dial and no built in flash.
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AlanWatson
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The d850 had a dollar RRP at launch of $3,300 (without taxes). Inflation is different for different types of product, and in different countries, etc, so trying to calculate what a reasonable equivalent is isn't easy. But especially after the last few years you probably are talking about $4,000 as the equivalent (the Bank of England's inflation calculator gives a slightly larger price increase, but you can never do better than approximate these things).
The Z7II's RRP is $3,000, so a $3,500 Z8 would be too close. $4,000 is neatly between Z7 II and Z9, so that seems a more plausible place for it to end up.
It's not something I need either. I'd like better tracking, blackout-free EVF, and I'd like to get rid of the shutter and go silent at all times. But none of that's critical, and I'm happy to wait until that tech makes its way down to a smaller, cheaper body in a generation or two's time. It would be more productive to spend my money on lenses anyway.
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