Is it worthwhile pre order the new Sony a7 IV or should I go for the Sony a7 III?

Hi there,

first post here, always used the forum in a “passive” way (reading and learning).

For a series of reasons I want to switch from my current fuji aps-c setup to a Sony full frame camera.

a part from underwater photography (main reason for why I’m looking to change the rig) I’m quite into street photography and I’m planning to learn more about wildlife photography in the coming months.
Im quite new to the full frame world and I can’t define myself an expert on the photography world, I’m an amateur that likes taking photos.

So, in your opinion, is it worthwhile spending more for ordering the new Sony a7 IV or go for Sony a7 III? Does the technical differences justify the price difference? If yes I don’t have any problem in prenorderinng the Sony a7 IV but if is not worthwhile for someone that is approaching the full frame with the money saved I could buy an extra after market lens

I shoot an a7 III and preordered the a7 IV from Amazon as soon as I was able to. Obviously i have no first hand experience to share. My opinion and others will largely be based on conjecture, what reviewers have to say, and experience with similar bodies. This is more of a dump of my thought process surrounding the two cameras.

In terms of still image quality; it will not be much of a difference beyond the bit of extra resolution. There's no reason to get the IV over the III for just still image quality. You can download sample RAWs and compare for yourself.

Video is a different animal entirely. The a7m3 is limited to 8-bit capture and the inefficient h264 codec. The a7m4 uses the better HEVC/h265 codec and 10-bit capture! Footage shot in HLG on the a7m4 will produce a much better HDR look due to the 10-bit capture. You'll also get smaller file sizes to boot.

The autofocus is not close. The a7m3 has good AF; the a7m4 has otherwordly AF. Real-time tracking AF is very sticky and by all accounts is a generational leap over the a7m3.

The number of quality of life improvements is staggering. Versus the a7m3 the a7m4 adds:

• fully articulated screen
• physical switch between photo and video modes
• separate settings for photo and video modes
• exp comp dial is now locked and reprogrammable
• grip and buttons are larger
• viewfinder increases significantly in resolution
• viewfinder can refresh at 120hz
• menus are touch-navigable
• fast charges with USB-C power delivery
• Bluetooth LE constant connection with instant image transfer to devices
• full-size HDMI port
• No anti-aliasing filter which allows for sharper images
• Digital image stabilization for video in addition to IBIS
• video record button moved next to shutter button making it easier to find/press

There's more I'm forgetting as well.

TL;DR. The a7 III is a great camera that captures great images and holds its own against the a7 IV for stills IQ. The a7 IV is a massive upgrade in terms of video image quality, autofocus, and ergonomics/usability. I personally think its worth it. I would also look at the a7C if you may find value in a compact body. Its mostly an a7 III but does add the new real time tracking autofocus.

I would say "yes" it is worth it, serious upgrade. But make sure that you will need/want these extra features. If not, then saving some money to purchase an extra lens might be a better choice. The difference in Megapixels alone is not worth the extra money.

Also, make sure you switch systems for the right reasons. For street, a smaller camera with smaller sensor might make more sense than FF. Also for wildlife, you get better tele-reach with smaller sensor cameras (unless you have the money for a 400 or 600mm prime).

Fbbrv said:

Hi there,

first post here, always used the forum in a “passive” way (reading and learning).

For a series of reasons I want to switch from my current fuji aps-c setup to a Sony full frame camera.

a part from underwater photography (main reason for why I’m looking to change the rig) I’m quite into street photography and I’m planning to learn more about wildlife photography in the coming months.
Im quite new to the full frame world and I can’t define myself an expert on the photography world, I’m an amateur that likes taking photos.

So, in your opinion, is it worthwhile spending more for ordering the new Sony a7 IV or go for Sony a7 III? Does the technical differences justify the price difference? If yes I don’t have any problem in prenorderinng the Sony a7 IV but if is not worthwhile for someone that is approaching the full frame with the money saved I could buy an extra after market lens

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Like leopleundron mentioned there's not a lot of IQ gain to be expected from the 24 to the 33Mpx. Look at the linear pixel gain to get an idea.

What might or might not work for you is the different colour rendering . Fuji's colours are often very pleasing straight ooc, the A7III a bit more difficult to get into neutral. No idea how the A7IV renders colours. Too early to tell.

You might also want to look at the A7C, latest AF tracking (don't know if the A7IV is different though) and by comparison very pleasing colours.

Good luck with your decision, you will realise that apart from gaining something moving ti Sony, you will also lose some.

Deed

Fbbrv said:

a part from underwater photography (main reason for why I’m looking to change the rig)

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In underwater you may need speed (fps) to catch the best moment and high quality RAW for freedom of post processing (white balance etc).

Both these aspects are compromised in A7 IV for resolution. It requires lossy compressed RAW for high fps and then downgrades to 12 bit.

On the other hand the AF tracking should be better.

If AF is important to you, you may consider A9, as it is actually cheaper than A7 IV with current cashback, brand new.

liopleurodon said:

I shoot an a7 III and preordered the a7 IV from Amazon as soon as I was able to. Obviously i have no first hand experience to share. My opinion and others will largely be based on conjecture, what reviewers have to say, and experience with similar bodies. This is more of a dump of my thought process surrounding the two cameras.

In terms of still image quality; it will not be much of a difference beyond the bit of extra resolution. There's no reason to get the IV over the III for just still image quality. You can download sample RAWs and compare for yourself.

Video is a different animal entirely. The a7m3 is limited to 8-bit capture and the inefficient h264 codec. The a7m4 uses the better HEVC/h265 codec and 10-bit capture! Footage shot in HLG on the a7m4 will produce a much better HDR look due to the 10-bit capture. You'll also get smaller file sizes to boot.

The autofocus is not close. The a7m3 has good AF; the a7m4 has otherwordly AF. Real-time tracking AF is very sticky and by all accounts is a generational leap over the a7m3.

The number of quality of life improvements is staggering. Versus the a7m3 the a7m4 adds:

• fully articulated screen
• physical switch between photo and video modes
• separate settings for photo and video modes
• exp comp dial is now locked and reprogrammable
• grip and buttons are larger
• viewfinder increases significantly in resolution
• viewfinder can refresh at 120hz
• menus are touch-navigable
• fast charges with USB-C power delivery
• Bluetooth LE constant connection with instant image transfer to devices
• full-size HDMI port
• No anti-aliasing filter which allows for sharper images
• Digital image stabilization for video in addition to IBIS
• video record button moved next to shutter button making it easier to find/press

There's more I'm forgetting as well.

TL;DR. The a7 III is a great camera that captures great images and holds its own against the a7 IV for stills IQ. The a7 IV is a massive upgrade in terms of video image quality, autofocus, and ergonomics/usability. I personally think its worth it. I would also look at the a7C if you may find value in a compact body. Its mostly an a7 III but does add the new real time tracking autofocus.

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The most interesting thing for me would be the improved autofocus, I'm never getting really interested in the video side. The other interesting thing is the full HDMI port, in the future some underwater case producer could use it for external monitor (at the moment those monitors already exists using mini HDMI).

4Photos said:

I would say "yes" it is worth it, serious upgrade. But make sure that you will need/want these extra features. If not, then saving some money to purchase an extra lens might be a better choice. The difference in Megapixels alone is not worth the extra money.

Also, make sure you switch systems for the right reasons. For street, a smaller camera with smaller sensor might make more sense than FF. Also for wildlife, you get better tele-reach with smaller sensor cameras (unless you have the money for a 400 or 600mm prime).

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The main reason for switching is the lack of material for underwater photography for fuji and the poor experience I read so far on the internet.
But I will not get rid of my wonderful xt-3 and lenses, I used the wrong term by saying switching, pairing probably is the best one.

deednets said:

Like leopleundron mentioned there's not a lot of IQ gain to be expected from the 24 to the 33Mpx. Look at the linear pixel gain to get an idea.

What might or might not work for you is the different colour rendering . Fuji's colours are often very pleasing straight ooc, the A7III a bit more difficult to get into neutral. No idea how the A7IV renders colours. Too early to tell.

You might also want to look at the A7C, latest AF tracking (don't know if the A7IV is different though) and by comparison very pleasing colours.

Good luck with your decision, you will realise that apart from gaining something moving ti Sony, you will also lose some.

Deed

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Definitely I need to take in consideration the different color rendering, is something that I really appreciate about Fuji but at the same time is a limit on the underwater world.
I had not mentioned the a7c because I already tried during this summer but I was not comfortable with the form factor.

Thank you so much for the answers, I'll make some thoughts but most likely I will order the Sony A7 IV

Fbbrv said:

liopleurodon said:

I shoot an a7 III and preordered the a7 IV from Amazon as soon as I was able to. Obviously i have no first hand experience to share. My opinion and others will largely be based on conjecture, what reviewers have to say, and experience with similar bodies. This is more of a dump of my thought process surrounding the two cameras.

In terms of still image quality; it will not be much of a difference beyond the bit of extra resolution. There's no reason to get the IV over the III for just still image quality. You can download sample RAWs and compare for yourself.

Video is a different animal entirely. The a7m3 is limited to 8-bit capture and the inefficient h264 codec. The a7m4 uses the better HEVC/h265 codec and 10-bit capture! Footage shot in HLG on the a7m4 will produce a much better HDR look due to the 10-bit capture. You'll also get smaller file sizes to boot.

The autofocus is not close. The a7m3 has good AF; the a7m4 has otherwordly AF. Real-time tracking AF is very sticky and by all accounts is a generational leap over the a7m3.

The number of quality of life improvements is staggering. Versus the a7m3 the a7m4 adds:

• fully articulated screen
• physical switch between photo and video modes
• separate settings for photo and video modes
• exp comp dial is now locked and reprogrammable
• grip and buttons are larger
• viewfinder increases significantly in resolution
• viewfinder can refresh at 120hz
• menus are touch-navigable
• fast charges with USB-C power delivery
• Bluetooth LE constant connection with instant image transfer to devices
• full-size HDMI port
• No anti-aliasing filter which allows for sharper images
• Digital image stabilization for video in addition to IBIS
• video record button moved next to shutter button making it easier to find/press

There's more I'm forgetting as well.

TL;DR. The a7 III is a great camera that captures great images and holds its own against the a7 IV for stills IQ. The a7 IV is a massive upgrade in terms of video image quality, autofocus, and ergonomics/usability. I personally think its worth it. I would also look at the a7C if you may find value in a compact body. Its mostly an a7 III but does add the new real time tracking autofocus.

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The most interesting thing for me would be the improved autofocus, I'm never getting really interested in the video side. The other interesting thing is the full HDMI port, in the future some underwater case producer could use it for external monitor (at the moment those monitors already exists using mini HDMI).

4Photos said:

I would say "yes" it is worth it, serious upgrade. But make sure that you will need/want these extra features. If not, then saving some money to purchase an extra lens might be a better choice. The difference in Megapixels alone is not worth the extra money.

Also, make sure you switch systems for the right reasons. For street, a smaller camera with smaller sensor might make more sense than FF. Also for wildlife, you get better tele-reach with smaller sensor cameras (unless you have the money for a 400 or 600mm prime).

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The main reason for switching is the lack of material for underwater photography for fuji and the poor experience I read so far on the internet.
But I will not get rid of my wonderful xt-3 and lenses, I used the wrong term by saying switching, pairing probably is the best one.

deednets said:

Like leopleundron mentioned there's not a lot of IQ gain to be expected from the 24 to the 33Mpx. Look at the linear pixel gain to get an idea.

What might or might not work for you is the different colour rendering . Fuji's colours are often very pleasing straight ooc, the A7III a bit more difficult to get into neutral. No idea how the A7IV renders colours. Too early to tell.

You might also want to look at the A7C, latest AF tracking (don't know if the A7IV is different though) and by comparison very pleasing colours.

Good luck with your decision, you will realise that apart from gaining something moving ti Sony, you will also lose some.

Deed

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Definitely I need to take in consideration the different color rendering, is something that I really appreciate about Fuji but at the same time is a limit on the underwater world.
I had not mentioned the a7c because I already tried during this summer but I was not comfortable with the form factor.

Thank you so much for the answers, I'll make some thoughts but most likely I will order the Sony A7 IV

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As for color rendering: Even if one shoots JPG only, there are tons of in-camera settings to adjust the JPG output (both Sony and Fuji). Once you enter a raw processor (Capture One) to the equation, any differences in "color science" become moot.

Personally, I would go with a cheaper option in case of flooding.

s-trap said:

If AF is important to you, you may consider A9, as it is actually cheaper than A7 IV with current cashback, brand new.

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In my country Canada, the A7IV is still $1300 Canadian dollars more than the A9 for body only. So the A7III looks like better deal.

Sorry got that backwards the A7IV is $1300CDN LESS EXPENSIVE THAN THE A9.

deednets said:

Fbbrv said:

Hi there,

first post here, always used the forum in a “passive” way (reading and learning).

For a series of reasons I want to switch from my current fuji aps-c setup to a Sony full frame camera.

a part from underwater photography (main reason for why I’m looking to change the rig) I’m quite into street photography and I’m planning to learn more about wildlife photography in the coming months.
Im quite new to the full frame world and I can’t define myself an expert on the photography world, I’m an amateur that likes taking photos.

So, in your opinion, is it worthwhile spending more for ordering the new Sony a7 IV or go for Sony a7 III? Does the technical differences justify the price difference? If yes I don’t have any problem in prenorderinng the Sony a7 IV but if is not worthwhile for someone that is approaching the full frame with the money saved I could buy an extra after market lens

Click to expand...

Like leopleundron mentioned there's not a lot of IQ gain to be expected from the 24 to the 33Mpx. Look at the linear pixel gain to get an idea.

What might or might not work for you is the different colour rendering . Fuji's colours are often very pleasing straight ooc, the A7III a bit more difficult to get into neutral. No idea how the A7IV renders colours. Too early to tell.

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The a7 III has accurate color OOC.

The real differentiator here is auto white balance. The a7 III white balance is very middle of the road; not warm not cold. Many folks prefer the look skin tones have with a warmer white balance. I personally have my a7 III AWB configured to +1.5 amber so my OOC jpgs are a bit warmer. Much of what folks ascribe to color science is really auto white balance.

OP if you are an OOC shooter there's another upgrade advantage: if you have 10-bit displays; a7 IV can shoot HLG stills in 10-bit HEIF files with greater color (Rec2020 vs sRGB) gamut and dynamic range than 8-bit JPGs.

deednets said:

You might also want to look at the A7C, latest AF tracking (don't know if the A7IV is different though) and by comparison very pleasing colours.

Good luck with your decision, you will realise that apart from gaining something moving ti Sony, you will also lose some.

Deed

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Agreed 100%. All systems have some give and take just like any tool. As the photographer its up to you to find the balance that works for your shooting and budget.

Fbbrv said:

Hi there,

first post here, always used the forum in a “passive” way (reading and learning).

For a series of reasons I want to switch from my current fuji aps-c setup to a Sony full frame camera.

a part from underwater photography (main reason for why I’m looking to change the rig) I’m quite into street photography and I’m planning to learn more about wildlife photography in the coming months.
Im quite new to the full frame world and I can’t define myself an expert on the photography world, I’m an amateur that likes taking photos.

So, in your opinion, is it worthwhile spending more for ordering the new Sony a7 IV or go for Sony a7 III? Does the technical differences justify the price difference? If yes I don’t have any problem in prenorderinng the Sony a7 IV but if is not worthwhile for someone that is approaching the full frame with the money saved I could buy an extra after market lens

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If you have the funds get the A74, if for no other reason, and there are plenty of other reason, than the better sensor and new menu system.

As an owner of 2 Sony A7III's, one died, and the other, a brand new one, is having issues already, I would say yes it's worth preordering the new A7IV. I did on day one. I'm really hoping Sony fixes the issues with the A7IV that plaqued the A7III.

If you need convincing about the new A7IV. Watch these videos.

4Photos said:

Fbbrv said:

liopleurodon said:

I shoot an a7 III and preordered the a7 IV from Amazon as soon as I was able to. Obviously i have no first hand experience to share. My opinion and others will largely be based on conjecture, what reviewers have to say, and experience with similar bodies. This is more of a dump of my thought process surrounding the two cameras.

In terms of still image quality; it will not be much of a difference beyond the bit of extra resolution. There's no reason to get the IV over the III for just still image quality. You can download sample RAWs and compare for yourself.

Video is a different animal entirely. The a7m3 is limited to 8-bit capture and the inefficient h264 codec. The a7m4 uses the better HEVC/h265 codec and 10-bit capture! Footage shot in HLG on the a7m4 will produce a much better HDR look due to the 10-bit capture. You'll also get smaller file sizes to boot.

The autofocus is not close. The a7m3 has good AF; the a7m4 has otherwordly AF. Real-time tracking AF is very sticky and by all accounts is a generational leap over the a7m3.

The number of quality of life improvements is staggering. Versus the a7m3 the a7m4 adds:

• fully articulated screen
• physical switch between photo and video modes
• separate settings for photo and video modes
• exp comp dial is now locked and reprogrammable
• grip and buttons are larger
• viewfinder increases significantly in resolution
• viewfinder can refresh at 120hz
• menus are touch-navigable
• fast charges with USB-C power delivery
• Bluetooth LE constant connection with instant image transfer to devices
• full-size HDMI port
• No anti-aliasing filter which allows for sharper images
• Digital image stabilization for video in addition to IBIS
• video record button moved next to shutter button making it easier to find/press

There's more I'm forgetting as well.

TL;DR. The a7 III is a great camera that captures great images and holds its own against the a7 IV for stills IQ. The a7 IV is a massive upgrade in terms of video image quality, autofocus, and ergonomics/usability. I personally think its worth it. I would also look at the a7C if you may find value in a compact body. Its mostly an a7 III but does add the new real time tracking autofocus.

Click to expand...

The most interesting thing for me would be the improved autofocus, I'm never getting really interested in the video side. The other interesting thing is the full HDMI port, in the future some underwater case producer could use it for external monitor (at the moment those monitors already exists using mini HDMI).

4Photos said:

I would say "yes" it is worth it, serious upgrade. But make sure that you will need/want these extra features. If not, then saving some money to purchase an extra lens might be a better choice. The difference in Megapixels alone is not worth the extra money.

Also, make sure you switch systems for the right reasons. For street, a smaller camera with smaller sensor might make more sense than FF. Also for wildlife, you get better tele-reach with smaller sensor cameras (unless you have the money for a 400 or 600mm prime).

Click to expand...

The main reason for switching is the lack of material for underwater photography for fuji and the poor experience I read so far on the internet.
But I will not get rid of my wonderful xt-3 and lenses, I used the wrong term by saying switching, pairing probably is the best one.

deednets said:

Like leopleundron mentioned there's not a lot of IQ gain to be expected from the 24 to the 33Mpx. Look at the linear pixel gain to get an idea.

What might or might not work for you is the different colour rendering . Fuji's colours are often very pleasing straight ooc, the A7III a bit more difficult to get into neutral. No idea how the A7IV renders colours. Too early to tell.

You might also want to look at the A7C, latest AF tracking (don't know if the A7IV is different though) and by comparison very pleasing colours.

Good luck with your decision, you will realise that apart from gaining something moving ti Sony, you will also lose some.

Deed

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Definitely I need to take in consideration the different color rendering, is something that I really appreciate about Fuji but at the same time is a limit on the underwater world.
I had not mentioned the a7c because I already tried during this summer but I was not comfortable with the form factor.

Thank you so much for the answers, I'll make some thoughts but most likely I will order the Sony A7 IV

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As for color rendering: Even if one shoots JPG only, there are tons of in-camera settings to adjust the JPG output (both Sony and Fuji). Once you enter a raw processor (Capture One) to the equation, any differences in "color science" become moot.

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Moot? I have been using Photoshop since Version 4, no layers then and use now C1 mainly. It could well be that I have no idea how to colour correct any files that contain skin tones. Easily.

A different ballgame if you call it a style and like Manny Ortiz Lightroom settings, it depends on what you are after. Files do have a different starting point, maybe you should have a chat with some professional retiuchers, there's a real science beyond easy-peasy behind all this. I am possibly only scratching the surface here, could link some raws from Olympus, Panasonic, Nikon, Canon, Sony and Fuji to illustrate how different cameras really are. My A7III portrait session files certainly have a different look when compared to my A7C files. Quite a difference in fact.

But that's quite a rabbit hole.

Deed

The A7III is a great camera. The A7IV is better in many ways - a step back in some.

If looking at money alone the new A7 IV will be ~$2500 and likely unobtainable for several months after launch if you have not already pre-ordered.

Second hand A7 IIIs in mint condition are in the $1200-1300 price range. About half of a new (unobtainable) A7 IV.

Unless you certainly know the A7 III cannot do what you want I'd be tempted to try it first and then decide if you want to (if you can) obtain an A7 IV.

if you can pay for it, then the A7iv, if not, then the A7iii

the upgrade is substantial

sony went from laughing stock menu system to arguably the best, you will learn much quicker this way.

controls of the iv are arguably better than any alpha camera on the market, including the recent A7siii and A1

A73 is a pretty amazing camera (I use it for my full-time wedding business).

Please don't think the V4 will make you a better photographer (it won't).

Get the V3 now and see if you feel hindered by it's features (you won't).

If you cannot take the pix you like with the V3, getting the V4 won't solve this for you.

HTH

g

Garyster said:

A73 is a pretty amazing camera (I use it for my full-time wedding business).

Please don't think the V4 will make you a better photographer (it won't).

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I do not understand this argument. Will it make you better at composition/framing? No, clearly not. Will it make you understand lighting and posing your subject better? How could it? However, will it's upgraded AF system help you get more sharp photos with moving subjects? Obviously. Will the 33mp give you more room to crop? Yes. Will the improved ergonomics help the camera further get out of your way as you make images? Of course. The a7m4 can absolutely improve your results. Like many things photography is an art and a science. Better equipment means you can focus more on the art part as it makes the science part fade into the background.

Garyster said:

Get the V3 now and see if you feel hindered by it's features (you won't).

If you cannot take the pix you like with the V3, getting the V4 won't solve this for you.

HTH

g

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I can't take real HDR footage with the a7m3 no matter how good a videographer I am. I can with the a7m4.

liopleurodon said:

Garyster said:

A73 is a pretty amazing camera (I use it for my full-time wedding business).

Please don't think the V4 will make you a better photographer (it won't).

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I do not understand this argument. Will it make you better at composition/framing? No, clearly not. Will it make you understand lighting and posing your subject better? How could it? However, will it's upgraded AF system help you get more sharp photos with moving subjects? Obviously. Will the 33mp give you more room to crop? Yes. Will the improved ergonomics help the camera further get out of your way as you make images? Of course. The a7m4 can absolutely improve your results. Like many things photography is an art and a science. Better equipment means you can focus more on the art part as it makes the science part fade into the background.

liopleurodon said:

Get the V3 now and see if you feel hindered by it's features (you won't).

If you cannot take the pix you like with the V3, getting the V4 won't solve this for you.

HTH

g

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I can't take real HDR footage with the a7m3 no matter how good a videographer I am. I can with the a7m4.

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Over the last 50+ years i have "followed" (possibly too strong a word) the argument as to whether a Plaubel or a Z9 makes you a better photographer.

My gut feeling was always leaning towards the Plaubel as it was more necessary to think, plan and then execute.

Since I have a strong interest in cultures, mathematics and philosophy, here is a question for you:

If more in-focus images are better, then getting an infinite number of images in focus would be best. Correct so far? If then a technology allows you to get everything in perfect focus at the scene, which can then by way of software later de-selected, this would then mean an infinite number of images that are all perfectly in focus where you want it to be, blur what's of no importance, apply a Zeiss algorithm, or a Noctilux one, and get millions of images which are just perfect. There are already cameras out there that could potentially do that and APPLE is trying to train its iPhones to simulate that.

So if you then use a wide angle with 1terapixel of resolution, or a vector based truly organic sensor (for scaling) then you would only have to take a million pics - and you would get close to perfection images?

Sorry got carried away here, but when people ask this evergreen question: will it make me a better photographer, I think in terms of infinity and this at the same time:

Plaubel, slow down - and think about your means! Diminishing returns when watching a BlueRay versus a pirated 720p video? MP3 versus DVD audio? A7III versus IV?

Simplified: better is better. Optimal is different, Art very different and learning and understanding doesn't happen anymore when you use the 1Tpx multi-focus camera.

Maybe for another day, aye??

Deed

liopleurodon said:

Garyster said:

A73 is a pretty amazing camera (I use it for my full-time wedding business).

Please don't think the V4 will make you a better photographer (it won't).

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I do not understand this argument. Will it make you better at composition/framing? No, clearly not. Will it make you understand lighting and posing your subject better? How could it? However, will it's upgraded AF system help you get more sharp photos with moving subjects? Obviously. Will the 33mp give you more room to crop? Yes. Will the improved ergonomics help the camera further get out of your way as you make images? Of course. The a7m4 can absolutely improve your results. Like many things photography is an art and a science.

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liopleurodon said:

Better equipment means you can focus more on the art part as it makes the science part fade into the background.

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Yup, and dare I say, it will make you a better photographer/artist because of that increased focus on the art itself.

It means you can experiment a lot more than before because you know the shots will be good or at least salvageable. With a lesser camera, you can't take too many risks because of the camera's limitations themselves, so you end up shooting the exact same way all the time, which slows down your growth as a photographer.

liopleurodon said:

liopleurodon said:

Get the V3 now and see if you feel hindered by it's features (you won't).

If you cannot take the pix you like with the V3, getting the V4 won't solve this for you.

HTH

g

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I can't take real HDR footage with the a7m3 no matter how good a videographer I am. I can with the a7m4.

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