What you don’t like some objective facts?Man, you seem so miserable! Stop stressing over cameras. Take a break from your computer and photography!And how many will you get with Zone, Tracking and focus priority ? Oh, I see not only do you like out of focus images but you like lots of them.
Here is the A1 eye AF working - looks awesome doesn't it? 5/20 - no wonder TN said it is barely usable.
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First, focus priority should never be used, the camera focuses to fast that you will get the best results with Release. Second, tracking should not be used in this case.And how many will you get with Zone, Tracking and focus priority ? Oh, I see not only do you like out of focus images but you like lots of them.
Here is the A1 eye AF working - looks awesome doesn't it? 5/20 - no wonder TN said it is barely usable.
And third and most important: are you honestly judging if a camera focuses well just by the green box indicator?
The only way to tell if images are in focus is to look at the photos themselves:- the green box might stay on the same plane of focus as the eye, but not necessarily show on the eye => who cares that the green box is not on the eye, the distance is correct.
- the green box might be on the eye but the camera/lens might not have managed to acquire the focus => doesn't matter that the green box was on the eye, right?
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Lol.
I think Sony could use the same sensor for the A1 ii and bump the fps to 40. The question will then be: "which lenses support 40fps in AF-C"?
That 1/250s readout speed is not surprising, Sony did say it was 1.5x faster than the A9, but it's still crazy.
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Tristimulus
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My dream lenses! :-D
Yes - it is crazy.
But the mechanical shutter with 1/400 sec sync speed is no sloutch either. :-D
What quite a few seem to miss is that mechanical shutters use a slit to expose the image at those very short exposure times. The slit has to traverse the entire image during the exposure - pretty much like the scan time of an electronic shutter.
This means that the rolling shutter effect of the A1 should be pretty much the same as the rolling shutter effect of a mechanical shutter with 1/250 sec sync speed.
Crazy - eh!
TheOwl360
Forum Enthusiast
“[don’t expect it will replace my A9–it might replace my A7RIII]”
Are you buying for video, then?
Why are you buying it? Just curious because your post is puzzling.
Thanks a lot Jim. Hope you are able to test the A1 soon. Would be looking forward to the results!
MicahSYL
Senior Member
I like that. Cheers.
MicahSYL
Senior Member
So right, I have follow his threads and seem he is against the A1, yet he claim to have pre-order the A1. Just don't match up. Cheers.
MicahSYL
Senior Member
If you think you have objective facts, why bring up a review from Tony, when the actual A1 is still in the baking?What you don’t like some objective facts?Man, you seem so miserable! Stop stressing over cameras. Take a break from your computer and photography!And how many will you get with Zone, Tracking and focus priority ? Oh, I see not only do you like out of focus images but you like lots of them.
Here is the A1 eye AF working - looks awesome doesn't it? 5/20 - no wonder TN said it is barely usable.
Facts are stable but reviews are subjective. The quality of the reviewer will qualify if the review can be taken objectively.
If I am to do a review now, will you take it as objective? Wait for the dust to be settled down before you can see some concrete facts, now is mostly noises, and you push as if they are facts.
There are real facts like 44 fps on lab test result, and you said it is all rubbish.
So please wait for your pre-order and test it out yourself and give this forum your results. Cheers.
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MicahSYL
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True, Sony only give the realistic 30fps, but this is the technical spec of the sensor not the overall as a camera.
The more significant aspect of the sensor technical spec, is the readout speed of 4ms. Which is why the A1 can have a no blackout even at 30fps. Theoretically, it can handle 250 readouts in a second, so 30 or 44 fps is a no issue.
Cheers.
It has less to do with this post and more to do with a generally negative trend of your comments here, on FM, and elsewhere.What is bizarre is how you folks assume anyone who posts a real world example of the A1 bird eye af in action must be a Canon owner.It's bizarre. I see it on FM and on reddit. I have no idea why so many Canon shooters are so emotionally attached to their gear, as if their whole identity is wrapped up in the camera gear they use. I love Canon myself, but I have a1 on pre-order. I can hardly wait for March 4th.Why are Canon fans so vehement against the A1? It's like they feel so threatened by it.And how many will you get with Zone, Tracking and focus priority ? Oh, I see not only do you like out of focus images but you like lots of them.
Here is the A1 eye AF working - looks awesome doesn't it? 5/20 - no wonder TN said it is barely usable.
You don’t think a Sony user would post a real world example of the Sony bird eye af in action ? Why do you assume that means I must be “against the A1” or feel threatened by it ? Sounds like you might be projecting some of your own feelings here.
I am neither for nor against the A1 - it’s just a camera. Mine is due late next week. I don’t expect it will replace my a9 - it might replace my a7riii though.
MicahSYL
Senior Member
He seem to kept missing "Reality" with all his comment, wondering what is the "REALITY" of all his funny comments.
Actually about the "randomguy" comment: for Live View, you don't need to read out all the data, you can do sub sampling because the EVF is only 2048 x 1536 at its maximum resolution so only 3MP instead of 50MP. The sensor has subsampling modes so it's able to read out a 3MP image in absolutely no time, if it can read out the full 50MP in 14bit at 250fps, then you can bet it can read out the 3MP in 10bit at over way over 1000fps.
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MicahSYL
Senior Member
I am unaware that the can exist 2 sampling modes. The tech spec of the EVF is 9 million pixels. Thank you for the added info.
It's more than 2, each Sony sensor has like over 30 sampling modes.
It's 9 million dots, and 3 dots form 1 pixel (R + G + B) => 3MP.
MicahSYL
Senior Member
Thanks.
Tony Rogers
Senior Member
Despite the tracking position not being recorded in a lot of those shots, the focus point is mostly on the eye (or where the eye was in the previous frame) and every shot has the eye in focus. Zone definitely wouldn't do that. Where the focus point drifts off to the body, it is probably resorting to vanilla Zone area.And how many will you get with Zone, Tracking and focus priority ? Oh, I see not only do you like out of focus images but you like lots of them.
Here is the A1 eye AF working - looks awesome doesn't it? 5/20 - no wonder TN said it is barely usable.
To me, that's good. I don't know what your 5/20 comment means at all?
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SilvanBromide
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What his 5/20 comment means is that he is going to great lengths to find any and every potential quibble with the α1 and blow it out of all proportion. This is far from the first post (or the first thread, or even the first forum) where he's done that. It's really quite a remarkable crusade.Despite the tracking position not being recorded in a lot of those shots, the focus point is mostly on the eye (or where the eye was in the previous frame) and every shot has the eye in focus. Zone definitely wouldn't do that. Where the focus point drifts off to the body, it is probably resorting to vanilla Zone area.And how many will you get with Zone, Tracking and focus priority ? Oh, I see not only do you like out of focus images but you like lots of them.
Here is the A1 eye AF working - looks awesome doesn't it? 5/20 - no wonder TN said it is barely usable.
To me, that's good. I don't know what your 5/20 comment means at all?
Surpassingly strange behaviour, especially from someone who claims to have already preordered an α1.
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There are probably thermal considerations preventing sustained operations at that rate in a practical consumer camera.
Building a pipeline to deal with 25 GB/s would be no small task.
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