The new APS-C Topper

If the rear screen is in fact fixed, what are the chances that the camera comes supplied with a separate wireless hand held screen ?

The articulated screen on the K1 is very handy for tripod work especially when the camera is positioned very low or high. A hand held screen would be even more useful.
You would need a separate battery for the screen, there wouldn't be enough room to store something like that within the camera body itself.

I wouldn't be happy about a wireless monitor, we have already seen in the past months how wireless communication with cameras can be hijacked for nefarious purposes.
Yes a new smartphone app is much more sensible idea.

Phones are wireless. I would be more worried about that than someone hacking my camera and stealing pictures of my dogs :-)
 
The thing with GPS is that most people with a phone or smartwatch have a solution to geotagging photos. There is no easy solution for lack of flash except buying and carrying an external flash.

I am not super happy with GPS on K1 either. Eats a lot of battery and you always have to wait a bit before taking a photo otherwise if you have no GPS lock when pressing the shutter your photo is not tagged! Even if camera gets a lock few seconds later. This is stupid!

Ideally you just pair your phone and camera thought Bluetooth and get GPS from the phone. It's easy ... Sony can do it. You save battery on the camera, which I think is more important than phone. Plus with new phone you maybe get better GPS etc. Can your Pentax read Galileo satellites? No! Your phone might... Or will in the future.

To me ... External GPS solution is more future proof.
GPS for geotagging may be usefull for some, but you miss the real point of GPS, it's the astrotracer function, something no other brand make.

(and something that was missing for me on the KP, even if you can add a GPS module, it is less usefull because you don't have it always with you)
 
for the precise eyes…. Have a look under the mirror.

How wide is the light protector of the autofocus unit in compare to current aps-c Pentax bodies?
Next,take a precise look to the reflected picture of the Matt screen and the mark of the autofocus area.
Thanks Asahiman.

The AF area of this new DSLR extends to the very bottom of the sensor.
It appears this camera will have as many AF points, or a very similar configuration, as the Canon 5D MkIV.

Vertically, at least 3 x 7 AF points.

Two horizontal areas of at least 3 x 5 points.

In total: 21 + 15 + 15 = 51 AF points. At least.
Which picture are you looking at? Don't tell me i need new specs again!

In any case, i think it's clear that we're getting a joystick, wider AF coverage and many more AF points. And I'm guessing electronics capable of processing these at a minimum of, say, 8fps?

I think we'll finally have a serious sports/birding camera! :D !!!
 
The thing with GPS is that most people with a phone or smartwatch have a solution to geotagging photos. There is no easy solution for lack of flash except buying and carrying an external flash.

I am not super happy with GPS on K1 either. Eats a lot of battery and you always have to wait a bit before taking a photo otherwise if you have no GPS lock when pressing the shutter your photo is not tagged! Even if camera gets a lock few seconds later. This is stupid!

Ideally you just pair your phone and camera thought Bluetooth and get GPS from the phone. It's easy ... Sony can do it. You save battery on the camera, which I think is more important than phone. Plus with new phone you maybe get better GPS etc. Can your Pentax read Galileo satellites? No! Your phone might... Or will in the future.

To me ... External GPS solution is more future proof.
GPS for geotagging may be usefull for some, but you miss the real point of GPS, it's the astrotracer function, something no other brand make.

(and something that was missing for me on the KP, even if you can add a GPS module, it is less usefull because you don't have it always with you)
I have no use whatsoever for geotagging, and I seriously doubt that even though it might be turned on all the time when cameras have it that it serves much real purpose to a majority of users. It's just gives your photo locations away to the entire world for free. A great help to the Getty Images photographers, no doubt . . . .
 
as a professional photographer i-m missing a lot...lved pentax and tried to make the best of it....but pentax unfortunately is not competitive on many aspect....service, autofocus try subpar, video non existent....ui began shooting personal assignment family wedding also especially in summer, and really the k1 simply is not there....yes you can use it a but the missing shots are always too much, in the last period i used a lot the canon 5 mark 4 of my sister with some sigma lenses and really i was shocked, as so good is the af, you only need concentrate on the subject and compose the photos and that-s it. you have plenty of keepers to choose from the best expression, with pentax especially with moving subject, especially child you must make the cross sign and hope to have a bunch of good photo of a burst.
I believe a professional videographer would use a professional... camcorder, not a camera :)

I don't know for the first version of the K1, but it is said the Pentax AF is very good on low light (ie better than a lot), since latest firmware I've tried (on my KP) AF-C with burst-shoot on go-kart races, racers coming right towards me, and the keeping rate is very good, just one or 2 are slightly off but still ok.

(and I was surprised when a professional photographer, trying just a few minutes my KP with the old 18-135, told me the AF was better than her 5D)

So I think the "AF Pentax problems" may be more an inheritance of old Pentax cameras, not saying it is good for all, and not at the same level than 3D eye AF liveview on newer mirrorless, but that it is an old habit not that relevant nowdays, or vastly exagerated.
 
Should have GPS, if it has no flash. Honestly, flash is more useful. You can record GPS coordinates other ways (phone or smartwatch) and sync later in LR.
I'll take the GPS, there are plenty of external flashes
I'll take flash, get yourself OGPS1.
Why would I when its able to be included in the camera body, I used to desire the pop-up flash for triggering external flashes, now I just trigger them optically, it suits me.
Each to their own I guess. But I just don’t get (or more specifically, personally don’t need) in built GPS. I generally know where I took a photo just by looking at the photo... I have never needed (or indeed wanted) to know the exact GPS coordinates.

I am much more likely to use an in built flash on occasions than a GPS... but, that’s just me.
 
for the precise eyes…. Have a look under the mirror.

How wide is the light protector of the autofocus unit in compare to current aps-c Pentax bodies?

Next,take a precise look to the reflected picture of the Matt screen and the mark of the autofocus area.
Thanks Asahiman.

The AF area of this new DSLR extends to the very bottom of the sensor.
It appears this camera will have as many AF points, or a very similar configuration, as the Canon 5D MkIV.

Vertically, at least 3 x 7 AF points.

Two horizontal areas of at least 3 x 5 points.

In total: 21 + 15 + 15 = 51 AF points. At least.
Which picture are you looking at? Don't tell me i need new specs again!

In any case, i think it's clear that we're getting a joystick, wider AF coverage and many more AF points. And I'm guessing electronics capable of processing these at a minimum of, say, 8fps?

I think we'll finally have a serious sports/birding camera! :D !!!
That's great news for Pentaxians. But let's not forget the importance of high end telephoto lenses with such a camera. Is the 150-450 fast enough, aperture wise and lens motor wise?

What a bore that Sigma dropped K-mount support, the 500mm f4S would have been a dream lens for this new Pentax.

Pentax should make a 400/4 lens.
 
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If the rear screen is in fact fixed, what are the chances that the camera comes supplied with a separate wireless hand held screen ?

The articulated screen on the K1 is very handy for tripod work especially when the camera is positioned very low or high. A hand held screen would be even more useful.
You would need a separate battery for the screen, there wouldn't be enough room to store something like that within the camera body itself.

I wouldn't be happy about a wireless monitor, we have already seen in the past months how wireless communication with cameras can be hijacked for nefarious purposes.
Yes a new smartphone app is much more sensible idea.
I have used ImageSync without much problem but obviously it could be sleeker. It was also a bit of a honeymoon period feature when I got a K-70 and I never used it again. In the field or rather balancing dangerously on slippery rocks yesterday the flippy flippy screen was yet again a godsend... I had the camera above me (due to the rock positions) and below me where I couldn't get behind the camera, so looking down at an angle where I could stand saved me and I got the images too!

Yesterday I used both LV and the viewfinder, I find both are a requirement for seascapes/landscapes etc. making sure the highlights aren't blown and using magnified focus peaking.

A separate screen with a fixed LCD camera isn't the way to go, to have both flippy and remote operation is a minimum requirement for a modern landscaper. I may use remote operation again when it is required and no doubt it will be.

The only features I don't like and would love to delete are those 'toy camera' and 'fisheye' kiddies smartphone type filters... Completely useless!
Phones are wireless. I would be more worried about that than someone hacking my camera and stealing pictures of my dogs :-)
Sure you upload Rio on at least 3 sites I have seen him in already, no hacking required! 😆
 
You can remove location data in LR (or similar?) ifyou want to post pictures - otherwise, I find it useful when moving around - you can track the whole course of your ramblings if you want to :)
 
Some hallmarks of Pentax top-of-class cameras are in place: green button (a highly under-appreciated feature of Pentax cams) is on back, not on top. ISO button is on top, not on four-way. IR-port present on back side as well as front (very useful!). Separate AF and AE-L buttons. Built in stereo mic, and microphone port AND headphone port at left.

Looks like a beauty that no doubt will equal or exceed IQ and low-noise of the KP. Looks more like K-S2 sized than the K-3's but probably has the LI90 battery in that grip. Built in stereo mic, and microphone port AND headphone port at left.

I like it, and it will no doubt be as robust as this K-3 I've dropped and dunked to no ill effect. Can't wait to get one.

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Put a full frame sensor into this body, and price it around the same as the Canon 6d Mkii, and it will sell like hot cakes.
+1

I was thinking along those lines. LOL. :)

Take care & Happy Shooting!
:)
Me too, a smaller FF yes and it looks too big for an APSC, I like the smallest APSC available and already have it. I would also get rid of that top screen, that is another dinosaur feature which has no use for me whatsoever.
 
You can always strip away the geotag before posting. It's for you to track where you took the photos. It's great!

Yes, I know astrotracer function depends on GPS. But I would think that astrophotography is something you plan.. so you can also plan to take a GPS module with you. On the other hand having a flash to do a quick fill in is something you don't really plan. It just happens. Anyway .. even the astrotracer function could be done with a phone. You just get GPS position from the synced phone. Then you only need compass in the camera.

It would be interesting to know how many people actually use astrotracer vs fill in flash.
 
as a professional photographer i-m missing a lot...lved pentax and tried to make the best of it....but pentax unfortunately is not competitive on many aspect....service, autofocus try subpar, video non existent....ui began shooting personal assignment family wedding also especially in summer, and really the k1 simply is not there....yes you can use it a but the missing shots are always too much, in the last period i used a lot the canon 5 mark 4 of my sister with some sigma lenses and really i was shocked, as so good is the af, you only need concentrate on the subject and compose the photos and that-s it. you have plenty of keepers to choose from the best expression, with pentax especially with moving subject, especially child you must make the cross sign and hope to have a bunch of good photo of a burst.
I believe a professional videographer would use a professional... camcorder, not a camera :)
Actually, several professional videographers use Sony FF MILC's.
(and I was surprised when a professional photographer, trying just a few minutes my KP with the old 18-135, told me the AF was better than her 5D)
Did that "professional photographer" use 5D Mark I or Mark II? Anyhow, I'm amazed how many people keep trying your camera. There was a Nikon D5 user last time?

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The thing with GPS is that most people with a phone or smartwatch have a solution to geotagging photos. There is no easy solution for lack of flash except buying and carrying an external flash.

I am not super happy with GPS on K1 either. Eats a lot of battery and you always have to wait a bit before taking a photo otherwise if you have no GPS lock when pressing the shutter your photo is not tagged! Even if camera gets a lock few seconds later. This is stupid!

Ideally you just pair your phone and camera thought Bluetooth and get GPS from the phone. It's easy ... Sony can do it. You save battery on the camera, which I think is more important than phone. Plus with new phone you maybe get better GPS etc. Can your Pentax read Galileo satellites? No! Your phone might... Or will in the future.

To me ... External GPS solution is more future proof.
GPS for geotagging may be usefull for some, but you miss the real point of GPS, it's the astrotracer function, something no other brand make.

(and something that was missing for me on the KP, even if you can add a GPS module, it is less usefull because you don't have it always with you)
I have no use whatsoever for geotagging, and I seriously doubt that even though it might be turned on all the time when cameras have it that it serves much real purpose to a majority of users. It's just gives your photo locations away to the entire world for free. A great help to the Getty Images photographers, no doubt . . . .
Well I do and infact attached my OGPS-1 unit yesterday so I can easily find all my newly found locations again AND using Sun Surveyor software plan future return trips at certain times... Moons, Milky Way positions, tides etc. etc.

You can block the EXIF data location points before you upload them, do you think I'd give away some nice unknown wild camping spots I have discovered? I won't even say where they are! 😉
 
as a professional photographer i-m missing a lot.
What I don't understand is that as a "professional photographer" why do you still bother to post negative things about Pentax who have not made a "pro" camera for decades, nor claim to offer a pro service.

When you buy a little utility car do you complain it wont accelerate like a Ferrari ?
it depends what you do...pentax can be used as professional, clearly it can be used professionally for everything, like sport or a wedding...it can be done but is not the best...i not complaint i just said the truth. in the last 4 years apart k1 they have completely stopped producing anything interesting apart the 50....the t3 party producer has gone away..the problem is that people like you who use pentax gear always react like this, if pentax don-t produce what you want go away, and thst- why pentax has left with what 1 2 per cent of market for dslr...while sony from scratch come to 2 place, or fuji who is growing year after year...pentax seems only interesting for existing user.

i have also decided to go another brand because i even doubt my pentax gear will be worth a lot in some years...still has value...i have a 645d with 15 lenses who proabbayl ca n be sol d for 10 12k...in some years how much can i ask for this_nikon and canon instead keep value...i have friend selling used lenses for more than 60 % their price. personally i-m scared of pentax future a lot it seems surviving only.
 
You can always strip away the geotag before posting. It's for you to track where you took the photos. It's great!

Yes, I know astrotracer function depends on GPS. But I would think that astrophotography is something you plan.. so you can also plan to take a GPS module with you. On the other hand having a flash to do a quick fill in is something you don't really plan. It just happens. Anyway .. even the astrotracer function could be done with a phone. You just get GPS position from the synced phone. Then you only need compass in the camera.

It would be interesting to know how many people actually use astrotracer vs fill in flash.
For me fill-in flash is better having it always there, has been a session saver many times and saves bringing a separate flash hence why I bought a K-70 with a good GN12 (KP only is GN6 you see).

As you say astro nearly always needs planned but the little OGPS-1 unit to separately attach is so small and light it is always easy to carry around anyway. Another advantage is it has it's own battery so not drawing on the the camera. A disadvantage is putting it in your hiking bag again without taking it off the camera, the mount and unit are by nature a bit fragile, and of course you can't use built-in flash at the same time.
 
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You can always strip away the geotag before posting. It's for you to track where you took the photos. It's great!

Yes, I know astrotracer function depends on GPS. But I would think that astrophotography is something you plan.. so you can also plan to take a GPS module with you. On the other hand having a flash to do a quick fill in is something you don't really plan. It just happens. Anyway .. even the astrotracer function could be done with a phone. You just get GPS position from the synced phone. Then you only need compass in the camera.

It would be interesting to know how many people actually use astrotracer vs fill in flash.
For me fill-in flash is better having it always there, has been a session saver many times and saves bringing a separate flash hence why I bought a K-70 with a good GN12 (KP only is GN6 you see).

As you say astro nearly always needs planned but the little OGPS-1 unit to separately attach is so small and light it is always easy to carry around anyway. Another advantage is it has it's own battery so not drawing on the the camera. A disadvantage is putting it in your hiking bag again without taking it off the camera, the mount and unit are by nature a bit fragile, and of course you can't use built-in flash at the same time.
I like having a built-in flash.

But . . . mostly as a parent.

For vacations, it's awesome. For going to my daughters sports competitions . . . I can get impromptu group shots in less than ideal light, without having to bring another piece of equipment (flash.)

But . . . IMHO . . . for a top-of-the-line dSLR, I think no flash makes a lot of sense. Just look at the Nikon D500. One less thing to go bad. Probably more weather-resistant. And the target market for this camera would probably want to use an external flash anyway.

I'm just hoping the K-P stays in the line-up as an option with a built-in flash. :)

Take care & Happy Shooting!
:)
 
Some hallmarks of Pentax top-of-class cameras are in place: green button (a highly under-appreciated feature of Pentax cams) is on back, not on top. ISO button is on top, not on four-way. IR-port present on back side as well as front (very useful!). Separate AF and AE-L buttons. Built in stereo mic, and microphone port AND headphone port at left.

Looks like a beauty that no doubt will equal or exceed IQ and low-noise of the KP. Looks more like K-S2 sized than the K-3's but probably has the LI90 battery in that grip. Built in stereo mic, and microphone port AND headphone port at left.

I like it, and it will no doubt be as robust as this K-3 I've dropped and dunked to no ill effect. Can't wait to get one.

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Put a full frame sensor into this body, and price it around the same as the Canon 6d Mkii, and it will sell like hot cakes.
+1

I was thinking along those lines. LOL. :)

Take care & Happy Shooting!
:)
Me too, a smaller FF yes and it looks too big for an APSC,
I think this is APS-C. They say it is. The mirror looks the same size as my Pentax ist DS. Just saying that a baby brother to the K-1 would be a nice addition to the Pentax dSLR line-up at some point in time. :)
I like the smallest APSC available and already have it.
+1

My Pentax ist DS is pretty small. I just got it working again (stuck AF/MF switch). So planning to take it to work this coming week to take on lunchtime walks. :)
I would also get rid of that top screen, that is another dinosaur feature which has no use for me whatsoever.
LOL.

I like the top screen. My eyesight isn't the greatest. So seeing the settings in the viewfinder is hard for me. It's nice to be able to glance down at the screen and double check my settings are what I thought they were.

But then again . . . I do quite fine with my Nikon D5100 or Pentax Q which both do not have a top LCD screen to show settings. :)

Take care & Happy Shooting!
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Put a full frame sensor into this body, and price it around the same as the Canon 6d Mkii, and it will sell like hot cakes.
That is your theory. But FF market is not about one camera. It is about system. And now go and check what lenses are available for FF K mount, what lenses all competitors have and how many lenses are missing there..

Then you'll understand how bad the FF Pentax idea is.. just waste of resources.
As to what ff lens are missing that kind of depends on what your priorities are. I'm mostly interested in architectural & landscape/travel photography. For me the only things missing are a couple of ultra-wide prime lens - perhaps a 24mm f2.0 & something in the range of 17-21mm f2.8 or f3.5. Those plus the 28-105 kit lens & perhaps a 70-200 f4 and I'd be satisfied.
 

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