More accolades for the Canon 6D II...

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Not surprising IMO...EISA DSLR Camera 2018-2019’! Camera of the Year!

 
Cool!! I am enjoying my 6DII, and my recent addition of the 70-300 IS USM II lens (wow, is it sweet!!!).
 
I too am enjoying mine. A few things that I am liking:

- Servo AF tracks better and more accurately and sticks better on targets than my 1DIV.

- Built in intervalometer allows exposure adjustments between shots. Yay!!!!!

- Built in timelapse move mode can do quick and dirty (but easy!) bulb ramping timelapses.

- The body size is perfect and about as small as I would like to go for prolonged shooting.

- Touchscreen; super useful!

- Lack of DR: haven't found this function yet. Mist be buried in the menus. Except that the menus are easy to navigate...

- Build quality: not up to 1D bodies but very solid and just feels right.

- Colour = great.

- Feels very quick and responsive whether changing settings, swiping through images or doing about anything.

So far so good and it gets a thumbs up from me. Oh, and video has never been so easy!!! Even if it is 1080 mush (according to the internet).
 
Eventually I will get one. For now I'm enjoying my 6D. Seems as if the Mark II has everything that I wish for.
 
It's a great camera. But 1 sd card slot is meh. But flip out screen and dual pixel af for such price are really great selling points.
 
Which were the other contenders for this prize in this category?
 
Not surprising IMO...EISA DSLR Camera 2018-2019’! Camera of the Year!

https://www.canonwatch.com/canon-ge...eos-m50-ef-85mm-f-1-4-and-speedlite-470ex-ai/
DPR should hire people to write reviews that are willing to read the owners manuals before writing reviews.
Why do you believe the reviewers do not read the manuals before operating the cameras prior to and during writing the reviews?

Cheers,
Doug
I asked. The answer was sometimes.

The Canon manuals say that DPP should be used to display raw files because other software might not display the raw files correctly.

If DPR has read this info and uses a program other than DPP to display Canon raw files what am I to think ?

They are either displaying Canon raw files incorrectly on purpose or they have not read the owners manual ?
 
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Just picked up a new 6d2 and i have no idea what the hate on it is about.

Spent a couple of days shooting with it, although I will be back to my 7d2 tomorrow, but its a really nice piece of kit. Wonderfully comfortable in the hand, bought the Canon grip as well, kept up with the work load perfectly, autofocus isnt as fast as the 7d2 and it did struggle twice in two days but I’m not holding that against it.

Very pleased with it. Probably bring it out to play next weekend again.
 
Not surprising IMO...EISA DSLR Camera 2018-2019’! Camera of the Year!

https://www.canonwatch.com/canon-ge...eos-m50-ef-85mm-f-1-4-and-speedlite-470ex-ai/
DPR should hire people to write reviews that are willing to read the owners manuals before writing reviews.
Why do you believe the reviewers do not read the manuals before operating the cameras prior to and during writing the reviews?

Cheers,
Doug
I asked. The answer was sometimes.

The Canon manuals say that DPP should be used to display raw files because other software might not display the raw files correctly.

If DPR has read this info and uses a program other than DPP to display Canon raw files what am I to think ?

They are either displaying Canon raw files incorrectly on purpose or they have not read the owners manual ?
I don't see this necessarily as reviewers not reading the manuals, which is a very broad statement implying the reviewers don't know what they are doing. I hope you really don't believe they are producing incorrect files on purpose.

DPR has stated that they use Adobe Camera Raw to process the files, they've commented previously they do this for consistency between manufacturers & models, and to eliminate any special processing - noise reduction, lens optimization, etc. manufacturers may include in their proprietary converters. It doesn't really matter if we like DPR's use of Adobe ACR or not, this is how and why they do it, we just need to understand it.

https://www.dpreview.com/articles/4553555371/introducing-the-test-scene

This has caused occasional problems with newly released bodies and ACR modules that are pre-release beta versions from Adobe, and have not been optimized. The processed raw files look bad, there are lots of complaints and DPR redoes it later when Adobe releases a new ACR module.

The above obviously only potentially impacts raw files and has no bearing on OOC JPEGs.

Cheers,
Doug
 
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Not surprising IMO...EISA DSLR Camera 2018-2019’! Camera of the Year!

https://www.canonwatch.com/canon-ge...eos-m50-ef-85mm-f-1-4-and-speedlite-470ex-ai/
DPR should hire people to write reviews that are willing to read the owners manuals before writing reviews.
Why do you believe the reviewers do not read the manuals before operating the cameras prior to and during writing the reviews?

Cheers,
Doug
I asked. The answer was sometimes.

The Canon manuals say that DPP should be used to display raw files because other software might not display the raw files correctly.

If DPR has read this info and uses a program other than DPP to display Canon raw files what am I to think ?

They are either displaying Canon raw files incorrectly on purpose or they have not read the owners manual ?
I don't see this necessarily as reviewers not reading the manuals, which is a very broad statement implying the reviewers don't know what they are doing. To state they might be producing incorrect files on purpose is too far over the line for me in terms of ethics violations.

DPR has stated that they use Adobe Camera Raw to process the files, they've commented previously they do this for consistency between manufacturers & models, and to eliminate any special processing - noise reduction, lens optimization, etc. manufacturers may include in their proprietary converters. It doesn't really matter if we like DPR's use of Adobe ACR or not, this is how and why they do it, we just need to understand it.

https://www.dpreview.com/articles/4553555371/introducing-the-test-scene

This has caused occasional problems with newly released bodies and ACR modules that are pre-release beta versions from Adobe, and have not been optimized. The processed raw files look bad, there are lots of complaints and DPR redoes it later when Adobe releases a new ACR module.

The above obviously only potentially impacts raw files and has no bearing on OOC JPEGs.

Cheers,
Doug
This is 2018. That might have worked in 2006.

Lightroom is headed for smartphone useage.

I have seen the difference between raw files displayed and printed with ACR and DPP.

Which one is displayed correctly ?

The owners manual claims the DPP one is.
 
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Not surprising IMO...EISA DSLR Camera 2018-2019’! Camera of the Year!

https://www.canonwatch.com/canon-ge...eos-m50-ef-85mm-f-1-4-and-speedlite-470ex-ai/
DPR should hire people to write reviews that are willing to read the owners manuals before writing reviews.
Why do you believe the reviewers do not read the manuals before operating the cameras prior to and during writing the reviews?

Cheers,
Doug
I asked. The answer was sometimes.

The Canon manuals say that DPP should be used to display raw files because other software might not display the raw files correctly.

If DPR has read this info and uses a program other than DPP to display Canon raw files what am I to think ?

They are either displaying Canon raw files incorrectly on purpose or they have not read the owners manual ?
I don't see this necessarily as reviewers not reading the manuals, which is a very broad statement implying the reviewers don't know what they are doing. To state they might be producing incorrect files on purpose is too far over the line for me in terms of ethics violations.

DPR has stated that they use Adobe Camera Raw to process the files, they've commented previously they do this for consistency between manufacturers & models, and to eliminate any special processing - noise reduction, lens optimization, etc. manufacturers may include in their proprietary converters. It doesn't really matter if we like DPR's use of Adobe ACR or not, this is how and why they do it, we just need to understand it.

https://www.dpreview.com/articles/4553555371/introducing-the-test-scene

This has caused occasional problems with newly released bodies and ACR modules that are pre-release beta versions from Adobe, and have not been optimized. The processed raw files look bad, there are lots of complaints and DPR redoes it later when Adobe releases a new ACR module.

The above obviously only potentially impacts raw files and has no bearing on OOC JPEGs.

Cheers,
Doug
This is 2018. That might have worked in 2006.

Lightroom is headed for smartphone useage.

I have seen the difference between raw files displayed with ACR and DPP.

Which one is correct ?

The owners manual claims the DPP one is.
Reread my post. You might not understand that ACR is a raw converter written by Adobe, DPR uses it to standardize across manufacturers & models, to eliminate open & hidden tweaks & optimizations manufacturers use.

Now you know how & why they do it, and it's not that they don't read the manuals or intentionally produce incorrect files. I suggest you address this directly with DPR via the feedback link, maybe they'll change if enough members raise it as an issue.


Cheers,
Doug
 
Not surprising IMO...EISA DSLR Camera 2018-2019’! Camera of the Year!

https://www.canonwatch.com/canon-ge...eos-m50-ef-85mm-f-1-4-and-speedlite-470ex-ai/
DPR should hire people to write reviews that are willing to read the owners manuals before writing reviews.
Why do you believe the reviewers do not read the manuals before operating the cameras prior to and during writing the reviews?

Cheers,
Doug
I asked. The answer was sometimes.

The Canon manuals say that DPP should be used to display raw files because other software might not display the raw files correctly.

If DPR has read this info and uses a program other than DPP to display Canon raw files what am I to think ?

They are either displaying Canon raw files incorrectly on purpose or they have not read the owners manual ?
I don't see this necessarily as reviewers not reading the manuals, which is a very broad statement implying the reviewers don't know what they are doing. To state they might be producing incorrect files on purpose is too far over the line for me in terms of ethics violations.

DPR has stated that they use Adobe Camera Raw to process the files, they've commented previously they do this for consistency between manufacturers & models, and to eliminate any special processing - noise reduction, lens optimization, etc. manufacturers may include in their proprietary converters. It doesn't really matter if we like DPR's use of Adobe ACR or not, this is how and why they do it, we just need to understand it.

https://www.dpreview.com/articles/4553555371/introducing-the-test-scene

This has caused occasional problems with newly released bodies and ACR modules that are pre-release beta versions from Adobe, and have not been optimized. The processed raw files look bad, there are lots of complaints and DPR redoes it later when Adobe releases a new ACR module.

The above obviously only potentially impacts raw files and has no bearing on OOC JPEGs.

Cheers,
Doug
This is 2018. That might have worked in 2006.

Lightroom is headed for smartphone useage.

I have seen the difference between raw files displayed with ACR and DPP.

Which one is correct ?

The owners manual claims the DPP one is.
Reread my post. You might not understand that ACR is a raw converter written by Adobe, DPR uses it to standardize across manufacturers & models, to eliminate open & hidden tweaks & optimizations manufacturers use.

Now you know how & why they do it, and it's not that they don't read the manuals or intentionally produce incorrect files. I suggest you address this directly with DPR via the feedback link, maybe they'll change if enough members raise it as an issue.

Cheers,
Doug
Back in the 10D days I think Canon shared info about their raw files with Adobe.

Because Canon raw files have become so advanced I don't they are sharing the info with anyone about raw conversion in 2018.
 
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Thank you Kody for the list, I was rather not interested which were the other awarded cameras in the rest of the categories but which were the cameras the judges compared with the Canon 6D Mark II for the DSLR CAMERA 2018-2019 category award.
 
Because Canon raw files have become so advanced I don't they are sharing the info with anyone about raw conversion in 2018.
That is not the case.
That is what I think. The reason I think that is because the manual says to use DPP. If they shared their info with Adobe why would DPP be needed at all ?

I think Lightroom is much slicker.

Canon used to give away Adobe software with their cameras.

DPP keeps becoming more advanced. Canon is going their own route with raw conversion.
 
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Because Canon raw files have become so advanced I don't they are sharing the info with anyone about raw conversion in 2018.
That is not the case.
That is what I think. The reason I think that is because the manual says to use DPP. If they shared their info with Adobe why would DPP be needed at all ?
Just letting you know that isn't the case. Canon still works with Adobe and why ACR often updates pretty fast for a new Canon body when it comes out....not the case with some other manufactures.
DPP keeps becoming more advanced.
So does ACR....and at a much greater pace. Doesn't mean DPP isn't a fine tool as well (I personally prefer it's initial simple conversion results). I suspect though, that ACR leads in terms of preferred conversion tool (what most end up using),
 
Because Canon raw files have become so advanced I don't they are sharing the info with anyone about raw conversion in 2018.
That is not the case.
That is what I think. The reason I think that is because the manual says to use DPP. If they shared their info with Adobe why would DPP be needed at all ?
Just letting you know that isn't the case. Canon still works with Adobe and why ACR often updates pretty fast for a new Canon body when it comes out....not the case with some other manufactures.
DPP keeps becoming more advanced.
So does ACR....and at a much greater pace. Doesn't mean DPP isn't a fine tool as well (I personally prefer it's initial simple conversion results). I suspect though, that ACR leads in terms of preferred conversion tool (what most end up using),
Lightroom removes data when converting a raw file to JPEG that DPP saves.

I don't think Lightroom knows how to read and understand and save all the metadata in Canon raw files ?

Some of it concerns DLO and that is Canon top secret tech ?
 

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