Lens made in….China,,,?!

AlexRuiz said:

VisualFX said:

This is why I avoid China/Malaysia products too. Atrocious human rights violations and terrible working conditions. Yet most Americans don't care and just want cheap cheap cheap. Sorry, but a lens made very fast on an assembly line in China, is not the same as made in Japan from someone with a close eye in quality.

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Are you saying you do not own any products that come from China? Not your clothing, housewares, toys, etc? I have a hard time believing that.

Most likely, you, like the rest of us, consumes plenty of products that come from China. See, here in the U.S. we like to have it both ways...we condemn sweat shops, while at the same time, love the cheap junk that comes out of them.

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AlexRuiz said:

Well-meaning American university students regularly campaign against sweatshops. But instead, anyone who cares about fighting poverty should campaign in favor of sweatshops, demanding that companies set up factories in Africa. If Africa could establish a clothing export industry, that would fight poverty far more effectively than any foreign aid program.

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AlexRuiz said:

In one famous 1993 case U.S. senator Tom Harkin proposed banning imports from countries that employed children in sweatshops. In response a factory in Bangladesh laid off 50,000 children. What was their next best alternative? According to the British charity Oxfam a large number of them became prostitutes.

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AlexRuiz said:

But matters are not that simple, and the moral lines are not that clear. In fact, let me make a counter-accusation: The lofty moral tone of the opponents of globalization is possible only because they have chosen not to think their position through. While fat-cat capitalists might benefit from globalization, the biggest beneficiaries are, yes, Third World workers.

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Ringwraith69 said:

Canon has factories in 16 Asian countries outside Japan, including China and Malaysia. So why exactly is it that your kit centers on Canon rather than Nikon...?

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filmluvr said:

I spend thousands of dollars every year to buy products that are not Chinese. Of course, sometimes there's no choice; an alternative simply isn't available. That was the case when I replaced the brake rotors on my truck last year. I e-mailed the largest brake parts manufacturer in the U.S., only to learn that all the Western plants had been shut down. The parts I wanted simply were not available, despite my willingness to spend *much* more than the standard off-the-shelf price. Sometimes there is a choice though, which is one reason my kit now centers on Canon rather than Nikon.

I've been visiting China regularly since the mid-'90s, and it is evident that we are now well past the "tipping point" in terms of trade. The U.S. has squandered 200 years of progress and culture in the name of cheapness and short-term corporate profits.

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AlexRuiz said:

Are you saying the computer or phone you are using to type these comments was made in the U.S.?

Just kidding man. I congratulate you on your effort to buy non-Chinese products. Unfortunately, when you look around, very few things are not made in China.

filmluvr said:

I spend thousands of dollars every year to buy products that are not Chinese. Of course, sometimes there's no choice; an alternative simply isn't available. That was the case when I replaced the brake rotors on my truck last year. I e-mailed the largest brake parts manufacturer in the U.S., only to learn that all the Western plants had been shut down. The parts I wanted simply were not available, despite my willingness to spend *much* more than the standard off-the-shelf price. Sometimes there is a choice though, which is one reason my kit now centers on Canon rather than Nikon.

I've been visiting China regularly since the mid-'90s, and it is evident that we are now well past the "tipping point" in terms of trade. The U.S. has squandered 200 years of progress and culture in the name of cheapness and short-term corporate profits.

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deednets said:

If Guangzhou airport with its 500 or so cranes making an airport that resembles vaguely the size of greater Los Angeles (I am exaggerating, but can take up to 30 minutes by bus to get to your plane at the moment on airport grounds...) is anything to go by, if they can build something of that magnitude, it shouldn't be a problem to make a little 27mm lens.

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VisualFX said:

VisualFX said:

Would you buy a Fuji X lenses made in Canada? I would be more worried buying expensive camera gear on Ebay or Amazon rather than a actual camera store.

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I would rather buy a lens. Are in Canada then China. Sorry but if Fuji starts shipping cameras and XF lenses made in China, they won't have anything to distinguish themselves from the other companies. I refuse to buy camera equipment made in China. Even my Paradigm speakers made in Canada. I would rather pay more for Made In Japan. Fuji will lose customers if they start with off shoring stuff to other countries.

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MariusM said:

I avoid buying anything made in China, whenever possible (difficult to do these days), mainly because of their atrocious human rights violations on their own citizens in Tibet.

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ryan2007 said:

VisualFX said:

ryan2007 said:

Would you buy a Fuji X lenses made in Canada? I would be more worried buying expensive camera gear on Ebay or Amazon rather than a actual camera store.

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I would rather buy a lens. Are in Canada then China. Sorry but if Fuji starts shipping cameras and XF lenses made in China, they won't have anything to distinguish themselves from the other companies. I refuse to buy camera equipment made in China. Even my Paradigm speakers made in Canada. I would rather pay more for Made In Japan. Fuji will lose customers if they start with off shoring stuff to other countries.

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Are you buying a camera and lens or the country of origin.

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darngooddesign said:

ryan2007 said:

VisualFX said:

DarnGoodPhotos said:

Would you buy a Fuji X lenses made in Canada? I would be more worried buying expensive camera gear on Ebay or Amazon rather than a actual camera store.

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I would rather buy a lens. Are in Canada then China. Sorry but if Fuji starts shipping cameras and XF lenses made in China, they won't have anything to distinguish themselves from the other companies. I refuse to buy camera equipment made in China. Even my Paradigm speakers made in Canada. I would rather pay more for Made In Japan. Fuji will lose customers if they start with off shoring stuff to other countries.

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Are you buying a camera and lens or the country of origin.

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Why do you care? He has a preference and sticks to it when able.

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ryan2007 said:

darngooddesign said:

ryan2007 said:

VisualFX said:

ryan2007 said:

Would you buy a Fuji X lenses made in Canada? I would be more worried buying expensive camera gear on Ebay or Amazon rather than a actual camera store.

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I would rather buy a lens. Are in Canada then China. Sorry but if Fuji starts shipping cameras and XF lenses made in China, they won't have anything to distinguish themselves from the other companies. I refuse to buy camera equipment made in China. Even my Paradigm speakers made in Canada. I would rather pay more for Made In Japan. Fuji will lose customers if they start with off shoring stuff to other countries.

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Are you buying a camera and lens or the country of origin.

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Why do you care? He has a preference and sticks to it when able.

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One is equating a Country of origin with how a camera performs or is built. If Nikon cameras like the D4S are made by blind Eskimos does one shooting at that level say no.

The point is the specs are the manufactures and they are not putting out a product that will cause them to go bankrupt.

Styx made assembled Mr. Roboto in Chicago with parts made in Japan.

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R_U_Q_R_U said:

The point is that buying goods from China is not a simple moral choice as some want to make it.

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Ringwraith69 said:

watchfull said:

Looking on E Bay for 27mm, I noticed they are all made in China…….Are the other lenses as well…??

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Some of the lenses are made in China, others in Japan. Does that bother you? Many of Nikon's lenses are made outside Japan, Zeiss has been making lenses outside Germany for decades and Leica would't have survived until today without it's subsidiaries in Canada and Portugal.

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darngooddesign said:

ryan2007 said:

darngooddesign said:

ryan2007 said:

VisualFX said:

DarnGoodPhotos said:

Would you buy a Fuji X lenses made in Canada? I would be more worried buying expensive camera gear on Ebay or Amazon rather than a actual camera store.

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I would rather buy a lens. Are in Canada then China. Sorry but if Fuji starts shipping cameras and XF lenses made in China, they won't have anything to distinguish themselves from the other companies. I refuse to buy camera equipment made in China. Even my Paradigm speakers made in Canada. I would rather pay more for Made In Japan. Fuji will lose customers if they start with off shoring stuff to other countries.

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Are you buying a camera and lens or the country of origin.

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Why do you care? He has a preference and sticks to it when able.

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One is equating a Country of origin with how a camera performs or is built. If Nikon cameras like the D4S are made by blind Eskimos does one shooting at that level say no.

The point is the specs are the manufactures and they are not putting out a product that will cause them to go bankrupt.

Styx made assembled Mr. Roboto in Chicago with parts made in Japan.

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The point is not specs, but where the thing is made. It's his right as a consumer to do so.

Again, why do you care? How could his purchasing choices affect you in such a negative way that feel the need to argue with him.?

ELO also had a computer with an IQ of 1001, with a jumpsuit on, and she was also a telephone.

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MariusM said:

"I buy everything from China"

Excepting the Fuji X-T1 on your gear list?

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MariusM said:

But you have your mike dropped by Korean-American actor Ken Jeong. Maybe his mike was made in China.

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VisualFX said:

filmluvr said:

Every Westerner who thinks it's OK should work in a Chongqing sweatshop for a month.

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This is why I avoid China/Malaysia products too. Atrocious human rights violations and terrible working conditions. Yet most Americans don't care and just want cheap cheap cheap. Sorry, but a lens made very fast on an assembly line in China, is not the same as made in Japan from someone with a close eye in quality.

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