Lens made in….China,,,?!

[R_U_Q_R_U]

Any of you old enough to remember when folks here in the USA used to say the same thing about stuff made in Japan?

Just saying...

Meanwhile, many of us use iPhones, iPads, and Macs all made ..... in China and we stand on line overnight at Apple Stores to get them.

Point is, evaluate the product not the place of manufacture.

I remember it well. Made in Japan meant cheap and plasticity. Remember the first Honda autos?

Exactly, except now that statistical QA methods are employed in manufacturing the progress made in Chinese factories is far greater than back then in Japan.

The market today is worldwide and it does not matter where a product is made. QA is important. There are fantastic products made all over the world and crap too. Evaluate the specific item not the point of manfacture.

 

[watchfull]

I have nothing against Chinese products…( except for some dog food….;-)) I was just surprised…..same when I saw the Zeiss lenses made in Japan. I also heard that many Camera components and cars parts - not necessary made by the name on the product….

This forum is amazing, I learned here about Dogs,history, bridges, BBQ etc. ….Fantastic...:-D

 

[slimandy]

I have nothing against Chinese products…( except for some dog food….;-)) I was just surprised…..same when I saw the Zeiss lenses made in Japan. I also heard that many Camera components and cars parts - not necessary made by the name on the product….

It is still made by Fujifilm. They have factories in China.

This forum is amazing, I learned here about Dogs,history, bridges, BBQ etc. ….Fantastic...:-D

Amazing what you can learn when you open your mind.

 

[regos]

No matter what anyone says, Made In Japan is a Fuji selling point. It is an assumed label of higher quality, that is why they put it very visibly on their products that are manufactured there. I buy into it myself, I have to admit.

 

[57even]

Looking on E Bay for 27mm, I noticed they are all made in China…….Are the other lenses as well…??

What's the problem?

 

[Ed B]

This forum is amazing, I learned here about Dogs,history, bridges, BBQ etc. ….Fantastic...:-D

You're right.

These forums are the proverbial fountain of knowledge.

But, if you really want to learn and interact with some of the world's foremost experts, on just about everything, spend some time at the "off topic" forum.

That place will provide an education all the money in the world couldn't buy.

 

[VisualFX]

Would you buy a Fuji X lenses made in Canada? I would be more worried buying expensive camera gear on Ebay or Amazon rather than a actual camera store.

I would rather buy a lens. Are in Canada then China. Sorry but if Fuji starts shipping cameras and XF lenses made in China, they won't have anything to distinguish themselves from the other companies. I refuse to buy camera equipment made in China. Even my Paradigm speakers made in Canada. I would rather pay more for Made In Japan. Fuji will lose customers if they start with off shoring stuff to other countries.

 

[MariusM]

I avoid buying anything made in China, whenever possible (difficult to do these days), mainly because of their atrocious human rights violations on their own citizens in Tibet.

 

[PenPix]

Looking on E Bay for 27mm, I noticed they are all made in China…….Are the other lenses as well…??

What's the problem?

 

[slimandy]

No matter what anyone says, Made In Japan is a Fuji selling point. It is an assumed label of higher quality, that is why they put it very visibly on their products that are manufactured there. I buy into it myself, I have to admit.

Makes no difference at all to me. Performance and price are what matter. I like the 27mm; I couldn't care less where it was made. I can't see where it says 'made in china' when I'm looking through the viewfinder to take a picture.

 

[khunfred]

Products that are manufactured in Japan or Germany are priced higher because everything from wages to taxes and overhead are more expensive in those countries.

Hmm...Actually, it's a matter of business models and profitability. In Western Europ (I'm French), wages are higher also because a part of the workers are more qualified. Then some products are more expensive to make and only top class series are made in these countries: for example, Nikon "pro" products are made in Japan. Nikon "consumers" products are made in Thailand and some parts in neighbours.

So, "Made in Japan" means a guarantee of quality, better homogeneity and higher quality controls.

That said, as my wife is from Thailand, I wouldn't say this kind of countries can't make good products. I'm very satisfied with our daughters, for example.;-)

 

[57even]

Looking on E Bay for 27mm, I noticed they are all made in China…….Are the other lenses as well…??

What's the problem?

 

[Ed B]

Products that are manufactured in Japan or Germany are priced higher because everything from wages to taxes and overhead are more expensive in those countries.

Hmm...Actually, it's a matter of business models and profitability.

Yes, I agree that has a lot to do with it.

That said, as my wife is from Thailand, I wouldn't say this kind of countries can't make good products. I'm very satisfied with our daughters, for example.;-)

plus one.

On a more serious note, I also agree that great products can be made in any country but I can also understand why people are skeptical about products made in mainland China.

 

[filmluvr]

Every Westerner who thinks it's OK should work in a Chongqing sweatshop for a month.

 

[VisualFX]

Every Westerner who thinks it's OK should work in a Chongqing sweatshop for a month.

This is why I avoid China/Malaysia products too. Atrocious human rights violations and terrible working conditions. Yet most Americans don't care and just want cheap cheap cheap. Sorry, but a lens made very fast on an assembly line in China, is not the same as made in Japan from someone with a close eye in quality.

 

[slimandy]

Every Westerner who thinks it's OK should work in a Chongqing sweatshop for a month.

Is that where Fujifilm make their gear?

 

[MariusM]

Just their cheaper lenses.

 

[AlexRuiz]

This is why I avoid China/Malaysia products too. Atrocious human rights violations and terrible working conditions. Yet most Americans don't care and just want cheap cheap cheap. Sorry, but a lens made very fast on an assembly line in China, is not the same as made in Japan from someone with a close eye in quality.

Are you saying you do not own any products that come from China? Not your clothing, housewares, toys, etc? I have a hard time believing that.

Most likely, you, like the rest of us, consumes plenty of products that come from China. See, here in the U.S. we like to have it both ways...we condemn sweat shops, while at the same time, love the cheap junk that comes out of them.

 

[filmluvr]

This is why I avoid China/Malaysia products too. Atrocious human rights violations and terrible working conditions. Yet most Americans don't care and just want cheap cheap cheap. Sorry, but a lens made very fast on an assembly line in China, is not the same as made in Japan from someone with a close eye in quality.

Are you saying you do not own any products that come from China? Not your clothing, housewares, toys, etc? I have a hard time believing that.

Most likely, you, like the rest of us, consumes plenty of products that come from China. See, here in the U.S. we like to have it both ways...we condemn sweat shops, while at the same time, love the cheap junk that comes out of them.

I spend thousands of dollars every year to buy products that are not Chinese. Of course, sometimes there's no choice; an alternative simply isn't available. That was the case when I replaced the brake rotors on my truck last year. I e-mailed the largest brake parts manufacturer in the U.S., only to learn that all the Western plants had been shut down. The parts I wanted simply were not available, despite my willingness to spend *much* more than the standard off-the-shelf price. Sometimes there is a choice though, which is one reason my kit now centers on Canon rather than Nikon.

I've been visiting China regularly since the mid-'90s, and it is evident that we are now well past the "tipping point" in terms of trade. The U.S. has squandered 200 years of progress and culture in the name of cheapness and short-term corporate profits.

Jack

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http://jackandkelly.zenfolio.com/

 

[Ringwraith69]

This is why I avoid China/Malaysia products too. Atrocious human rights violations and terrible working conditions. Yet most Americans don't care and just want cheap cheap cheap. Sorry, but a lens made very fast on an assembly line in China, is not the same as made in Japan from someone with a close eye in quality.

Are you saying you do not own any products that come from China? Not your clothing, housewares, toys, etc? I have a hard time believing that.

Most likely, you, like the rest of us, consumes plenty of products that come from China. See, here in the U.S. we like to have it both ways...we condemn sweat shops, while at the same time, love the cheap junk that comes out of them.

I spend thousands of dollars every year to buy products that are not Chinese. Of course, sometimes there's no choice; an alternative simply isn't available. That was the case when I replaced the brake rotors on my truck last year. I e-mailed the largest brake parts manufacturer in the U.S., only to learn that all the Western plants had been shut down. The parts I wanted simply were not available, despite my willingness to spend *much* more than the standard off-the-shelf price. Sometimes there is a choice though, which is one reason my kit now centers on Canon rather than Nikon.

I've been visiting China regularly since the mid-'90s, and it is evident that we are now well past the "tipping point" in terms of trade. The U.S. has squandered 200 years of progress and culture in the name of cheapness and short-term corporate profits.

Jack