My quandary about lenses for the zoo and distance subjects.

Adam-T · Jul 9, 2003

I've had my name down on the 3D since before the damn 10D was released ;-) I can't afford a 1D and a 1DS and the 3D will replace the 10D .. I doubt that it'll be much good as a sports camera as such, especially as it's likely to be 8.5Mp, more of a camera for Wannabe 1DS owners, just as the EOS3 is now seen as a camera for Wannabe 1V owners..

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Troponin · Jul 9, 2003

Adam-T said:
even the 1D can't seem to make it go any faster and
that camera is like blowing Pepper up a lenses Ass usually (how's
that for American - speak ;-)..

I don't have a clue where you got that one (LOL)--- but, hey, it works for me!!!!

Adam-T said:
the only thing holding me from the 100-400IS is the forthcoming
Sigma 80-400-OS , if it's rubbish, the old canon "Dust Trombone"
will get the nod ;-)

Yeah, the dust thing is the reason I made three trips to the zoo to convince me

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Troponin · Jul 9, 2003

in the better AF (f/8 or better), the fps is not a real concern for me--- 3 or 4 fps will be more than enough---- it just needs to AF faster than the 10D---even if it doesn't, I have already convinced myself that I need it

Adam-T said:
I've had my name down on the 3D since before the damn 10D was
released ;-) I can't afford a 1D and a 1DS and the 3D will replace
the 10D .. I doubt that it'll be much good as a sports camera as
such, especially as it's likely to be 8.5Mp, more of a camera for
Wannabe 1DS owners, just as the EOS3 is now seen as a camera for
Wannabe 1V owners..

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Juli Valley · Jul 9, 2003

Hmm, I have a pan/tilt head. Maybe I should try that next time. It's a heavy thing. Bogen 3047.

randy corbin · Jul 9, 2003

I have the D60......I went with the 70-200 IS, for the image quality.....I wanted the 100-400, and even rented it once, but that was before I had any kind of long lens technique........had bad results....

I shoot the zoo, with "ellie" (70-200 IS), and my bogen monopod, with the trigger head.....mounted by the lens mount......and if I need even more stability, then I position the whole rig, against a railing, etc......

this setup works great for me.......the pistol grip head allows for movement in any direction, so I can move it while looking through the viewfinder, and just let go and it stays there.......

all that said, there are times when I wish I had a little more reach.......300mm-400mm would be nice at times........

go for the 70-200 IS.....you know you want to, and it would quickly become you're favorite lens.....I guarantee it......cheers

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BAS1 · Jul 9, 2003

Mine is also a Bogen 3047. Bought it because it handles the weight well. I find that animals, I shoot mostly feeding birds, once focused move mostly horizontally. Leaving the pan unsecured allows one to rotate horizontally. I also like to use the remote shutter control to avoid causing any unnecessary motion by releasing the shutter in the traditional manner.

Juli, I hope you like the 100-400. I do. But when using a tripod anyway and if the subject in in the 200 range, I find the 70-200L F4 to be tack sharp. I wound not part with the 100-400 however. Even at 400mm some subjects are out of reach. Maybe I will get a 1.4 TC but then I am in manual focus.

Bev

Juli Valley said:
Hmm, I have a pan/tilt head. Maybe I should try that next time.
It's a heavy thing. Bogen 3047.

Bill Harris · Jul 9, 2003

Juli Valley said:
I ordered the 100-400IS this afternoon. I think the IS should
really be a big help with any movement of the monopod.

I don't spend as much time here anymore as I used to, but the 100-400 will treat you right. I've had mine for about a year now and have never found the need for a monopod. Anything over a 1/60th and a nice exhale on your part and you'll be amazed what you can do with it.

Money well spent Juli! Have fun!

Bill

Juli Valley · Jul 9, 2003

Hmmm, I think I may need to go to the basement and lift some weights. I imagine I'll need a monopod for more than a short time.

Bill Harris · Jul 9, 2003

Juli Valley said:
Hmmm, I think I may need to go to the basement and lift some
weights. I imagine I'll need a monopod for more than a short time.

LOL...Nah! When you get fatiqued just pull the lens in to it's wide position. You'll get used to it in no time flat.

Bill

Juli Valley · Jul 9, 2003

I do believe it's lighter than my 80-200L. I still think I will be carrying it on a monopod.

lawdog · Jul 9, 2003

Juli,

This may have already been covered, but make sure you're using a monopod with a ball head. Otherwise it can be a big pain maneuvering the lens. I know you use an Expodisc like me, and you will be thrilled with the color response of the 100-400 when WB is properly set. Not as sharp (nor as fast) as the 80-200 I'm sure, but amazing none the less. If you have enough light to shoot at 1/500 and f8 or f11 this lens really shines, even wide open.

John

Juli Valley said:
I do believe it's lighter than my 80-200L. I still think I will be
carrying it on a monopod.

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EOS D60, 50mm 1.8, 100mm 2.8 macro, Sigma 15-30, 28-135 IS, 100-400L IS, Bogen monopod, 550EX Speedlight, an old Pro90 in the trunk of my car (just in case) and a very happy trigger finger.

Diane B · Jul 9, 2003

Troponin said:
After three trips to the zoo with my 70-200 f/4L, I have convinced
myself that I need the 100-400IS.

Are you going to use the monopod which one and what head will
you be using. I just brought the Manfrotto 488RC2 for my
monopod---- it's inexpensive and it will hold up to 17 lbs.

I just ordered the 486RC2 for mine--I have been to the zoo once this year--its several hours each way, so its unlikely that's a shoot I"ll do very often. I tried the 1.4x converter on the 70-200 f/4 today (on the D30--which happened to be handy--as opposed to the D60 which I usually shoot with) and I've convinced myself that I DON'T need the 100-400 IS LOL. Different strokes......

Diane
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Juli Valley · Jul 9, 2003

I have a ballhead. I hope I can get by with under 1/500th with the IS. Perhaps I'm dreaming.

irdigital · Jul 9, 2003

I was just far enough away to ensure that didn't happen! I actually chose the spot for the composition of the tracks in the foreground and the curve in the background. The lens was at 400mm to compress the train.

Hand held, no monopod. But I do use a Gitzo monopod without a ball head with the big lenses (300f2.8, 400f2.8, 500f4 and 600f4).

DS

lawdog · Jul 9, 2003

Don't get me wrong, you can shoot under 1/500 with the IS. In fact, one of the best parts about the IS is that the image isn't dancing around while you're trying to frame it! I've gotten great shots at 1/250, but I wouldn't go much lower than that when zoomed over 300m. I'm just saying that at 1/500 and above at f8 or 11 you really get the best image the lens has to offer, which is pretty darn good. Trust me, you're going to love this lens.

Juli Valley said:
I have a ballhead. I hope I can get by with under 1/500th with the
IS. Perhaps I'm dreaming.

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EOS D60, 50mm 1.8, 100mm 2.8 macro, Sigma 15-30, 28-135 IS, 100-400L IS, Bogen monopod, 550EX Speedlight, an old Pro90 in the trunk of my car (just in case) and a very happy trigger finger.

F. Vissel · Jul 10, 2003

I think you know it is a pump zoom.
That rules out that one for me, I don't like pump zooms.
On a german forum there was a report of dust problems with this lens,
the man shoot animals in Namibia (I was there, PLENTY of dust!!).
BTW very interesting info at http://www.poelking.com , german nature photog.

Juli Valley said:
Yes, I did feel more comfortable. I had more sun today so I shot
at 200 instead of 400. I guess I should have kept the ISO up. I
want to order a 100-400 really bad.

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Juli Valley · Jul 10, 2003

Other than the pump complaint, I've heard nothing but good comments about it. Pat T. shared some of her bird photos that were simply stunning. I can't wait for Monday to arrive.

Bill Harris · Jul 10, 2003

Don't you worry Juli!

F7.1, 1/160th @ 400mm

f13, 1/200th @ 400mm

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Bill Harris · Jul 10, 2003

f13, 1/200th @ 400mm

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