X-S1: Auto Mode or EXR Mode for Best Point and Shoot Results?

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I'm taking my new X-S1 on 'its first vacation'. So far I haven't had the time to use it much and I've never used a camera as fully-featured as the X-S1 before (using a pretty simple Panasonic DMC-FH20 up to now). I've gone through the manual, and while I think I understand how to use the modes in question the manual doesn't really explain the differences (pros/cons) of these two point & shoot modes.

I don't have the time to experiment (we are leaving for Hawaii this Sunday), so I'd really appreciate getting some feedback as to which of these point and shoot modes (Auto / EXR) would be preferable, and why.

Thanks!
 
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I'm taking my new X-S1 on 'its first vacation'. So far I haven't had the time to use it much and I've never used a camera as fully-featured as the X-S1 before (using a pretty simple Panasonic DMC-FH20 up to now). I've gone through the manual, and while I think I understand how to use the modes in question the manual doesn't really explain the differences (pros/cons) of these two point & shoot modes.

I don't have the time to experiment (we are leaving for Hawaii this Sunday), so I'd really appreciate getting some feedback as to which of these point and shoot modes (Auto / EXR) would be preferable, and why.

Thanks!
Hi,

Good idea to set it up ASAP and try it out (quickly) before the trip. I wouldn't use AUTO. You can have more control in P, S or A mode, and if you keep it there, it's basically "auto", but better.

EXR is fine to experiment with when you have time. Otherwise I just keep it on EXR:SN and quickly turn the mode dial to it when I am in bad light.

So, what are my basic settings?

Shooting Menu:

ISO 1600 (3200's okay though)

Image: M 4:3 (3:2 if you want to make 6x4" prints easily)

Dynamic Range: 200

Film Simulation: Provia (I like the others, too, so sometimes I just bracket and get all three).

White Balance: Auto

Color, Sharpness, Highlight, Shadow -- the defaults.

Noise Reduction M-Low

Face Detection Off

AF Mode: Area, sometimes Tracking

Face Recognition: Off

Flash -2/3, rarely use it

On Set Up Menu:

I keep sound off (especially for wildlife)

FN1 button on Digital Zoom

FN2 button on MF

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I usually use S or A mode as my "Auto" choice with these settings. (Though I more often use the tweaked presets in these that I saved in C1-C2-C3)

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I usually have it on Average metering but find Spot metering really useful. (Personally, I don't like the X-S1's Multi). Also being comfortable with the EV button on top and the AE button on the left side of the camera is useful. I keep the smallest AF possible. The AE/AF button is useful, if you have time to get used to it before you go--otherwise, I wouldn't worry about it at all. Likewise the bracketing button (next to the EV button on top) is versatile. I like to bracket for exposure...or film simulations ... or DR. (Film sim bracketing might be a very good idea in Hawaii. Also bracketing for action or bursts might come in handy).

All of the above can be customized and saved as your "go to" setting combo in C1 - C2 - C3. (I have C3 set for Black and White.)

You might want to keep the ADV mode on "Panorama" since it's Hawaii--one quick twist of the dial, and there you go!

Have fun. It's a great camera. Even if you just put it in "P" and never think about it again you are likely to come back with a lot of beautiful photos.

Lisetta
 
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Hi Lisetta,

Thanks for taking the time to spell all of that out for me. While it's simply too much for me to digest by Sunday, I will printout your settings and try them over the next few months.

Over the few weeks that I've had the camera, I have taken some shots around my house just to make sure the camera worked, but nothing more; been extremely busy at work. For my upcoming vacation next week I need to keep it much much simpler. That's why I'm trying to determine how to best use the X-S1 as a simple point and shoot camera (letting the camera automatically select the most appropriate settings). So far, I don't think anyone has addressed that basic question!

However, your suggestion of panoramic shots sounds potentially useful. Am I able to select the extent of the 'paaramic sweep'? If so, how can I do that?
 
I use my XS-1 pretty much as a point and shoot and do not play with settings much at all. And I am pretty happy with the results.

So here are my settings.

I just leave the camera with the mode dial selected to EXR all the time. (well nearly all the time)

With the mode dial set to EXR, press the Menu button.

The very first item on the screen is EXR Mode, press the Menu/OK button to get that menu item. The the down keys to select D-Range Priority. The press the Menu/OK button

For the rest of the items on that screen.

ISO Auto 800

Image Size M:4:3

Image Quality F (Fine)

Dynamic Range DR400

Film Simulation Standard

I think this will work well for you going to Hawaii. Beautiful green scenery in sunlight.

You can stop with the above if you like.

To get a little more flexibility, read on a bit.

I sometimes use my XS-1 indoors for snapshots of the family. So I have my Aperture mode setup for that. Similar to before. Turn the mode dial to A (for aperture) Press Menu OK

For ISO 3200

Image Size M:4:3

Image Quality F

Dynamic Range DR400

Film Simulation Standard.

Then the Command Dial, the one that is unmarked on the right hand side of the XS-1, with the zoom lens all the way in, I turn the knob clockwise until the text on the screen shows F/2.8. As you zoom in, the number will increase meaning less light is collected, because the available aperture size decreases as you zoom in, but the camera will be picking the lowest value it has available which is what you want. Just remember, if you have the option, it is best to walk closer to the thing you are photographing rather than stand back and use the zoom, because the closer you are, the larger lens aperture you can get and the more light will be collected.

So then I have two modes for my XS-1. I turn the knob to EXR for outdoor landscapes and the family outdoors. I turn the knob to A for indoor shots of family. The high ISO setting helps keep the shutter times short to eliminate the kids moving around ruining the pictures. But it depends on how bright lights are and the activity level of my kids. If the light is good, like it was this evening when my daughter was painting a picture in the kitchen, I turn the knob to EXR. I half press the shutter button and the text on the bottom of the camera shows the shutter that is being selected. For instance 60 means 1/60th of a second. That is fast enough to freeze motion in low speed movement activity like her painting a picture. 1/30th of a second is getting a bit too slow. If the lights had been lower, I would just have moved the mode dial knob to A.

I only use my XS-1 in EXR and A mode. The XS-1 has a lot of capability I do not touch, but I think the way I use it is like what you will do on vacation in Hawaii and you will be happy with the results.
 
If you have NO time to study up on this camera, leave it in EXR Auto.

These cameras have a learning curve, especially if all you've ever done is point and shoot.

If you really have no time to utilize my compatriot's advice above, EXR Auto is a good 'lifeboat' mode. Set your front switch to AF-C. Buy a Class 10 card, 8gb or bigger, not one of those aggravating Class 4 or worse at WalMart.

Take your charger. XS-1 batteries last quite a while, but you will need to stay after it charging wise overnight if you're only taking one battery.

It's a terrific camera, Best of Luck !
 
Just one thing to add. Half press the shutter release button and see if you get a good autofocus lock. If you do (green box shows), press all the way to take the picture. If you do not get a good autofocus lock (yellow box shows), let up on the button, and then half press again. That usually results in a good autofocus. Then fully press the shutter release button to take the picture.
 
While I appreciate that reference, most of it is over my head (please keep in mind that I've never used anything but automatic point & shoot cameras)!
With this in mind, place your X-S1 in EXR mode and treat it like a point and shoot with a manual zoom lens for now. Enjoy your vacation and don't worry about it. You can learn more and dig into it later :-) No need to stress about it.
 
Hi Lisetta,

Thanks for taking the time to spell all of that out for me. While it's simply too much for me to digest by Sunday, I will printout your settings and try them over the next few months.

Over the few weeks that I've had the camera, I have taken some shots around my house just to make sure the camera worked, but nothing more; been extremely busy at work. For my upcoming vacation next week I need to keep it much much simpler. That's why I'm trying to determine how to best use the X-S1 as a simple point and shoot camera (letting the camera automatically select the most appropriate settings). So far, I don't think anyone has addressed that basic question!

However, your suggestion of panoramic shots sounds potentially useful. Am I able to select the extent of the 'paaramic sweep'? If so, how can I do that?
Hi,

You're welcome, but I don't really think it's hard if you're interested. :) Just turn to "P" on the mode dial, then push the Menu button (middle of the Control Dial on the right back side) and you'll see the "Shooting Menu". (You should do this anyway, just to know where some things are, whether you use them or not.

P --> MENU button --> Shooting Menu (it should just show up. It's the one on top with the little "camera icon")

I listed everything in order above (ISO, etc.) Just scroll down the menu, look at my list and you'll see everything very easily! (To set it you might need to push the right side of the Control Dial just to get to see the choices). Honestly, it's not hard. They're all in order! :)

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I am trying to tell you how to use it as a simple point and shoot camera! :) Just choose the settings I listed--keep it in "P" mode--and shoot away! (You can ignore the other things--all those "choices". I see that was a mistake to include. :( Sorry! )

But -do- go to "P" then to Shooting Menu and make those settings. It's really, really simple and you don't have to change them at all on your trip!
 
Okay, Part II. (Too late to delete previous. I realize it's too much.)

I prefer "P" for the reason stated but you really just want auto so the advice others gave above is good. (Including bringing the charger, extra battery if you have it, Class 10 card--if you don't have one it's not a big deal; always half press the shutter to focus, etc.)

And don't forget to try out some video--Just push the red button. You're in paradise, after all. :)

Anyway, yes, just go with "EXR AUTO" but NOT the "AUTO" on the mode dial. It'll do fine.

For Panoramas, yes, you can adjust them. Choose ADV --> Panorama and you'll see the word "Angle" at the bottom of the frame. Push down on the bottom of the Control Dial and you can choose from a 120 / 180 / 360 panorama. (You'll also see "Direction" listed and you can choose up/down there, if you want a vertical panorama--like, for example, of a volcano. :) ).

EXR AUTO and Panorama (and the video button :) ). Fun! Simple!

Really, left to do its thing, this is really a wonderful camera with great colors. I envy you taking it to such a beautiful, colorful location. I think you'll be very happy with the results.
 
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I'm taking my new X-S1 on 'its first vacation'. So far I haven't had the time to use it much and I've never used a camera as fully-featured as the X-S1 before (using a pretty simple Panasonic DMC-FH20 up to now). I've gone through the manual, and while I think I understand how to use the modes in question the manual doesn't really explain the differences (pros/cons) of these two point & shoot modes.

I don't have the time to experiment (we are leaving for Hawaii this Sunday), so I'd really appreciate getting some feedback as to which of these point and shoot modes (Auto / EXR) would be preferable, and why.

Thanks!
Leave it in EXR AUTO mode and have a blast enjoying your holiday and not worrying about the camera - it is very capable. I do this on holiday as it more important capturing the moment and in EXR AUTO it switches very quickly between modes to choose the best option. I have not yet been disappointed but do make sure you half press the shutter and get the focus ready first as the only negative for you of EXR AUTO may be slow shutter speeds so you just need to be careful the camera is focused.

Have a great time.

Ian
 
The project I'm working on is in 'crisis mode' and my boss won't let me take my vacation (I even have to work over the next few weekends)! The company is paying for any losses I incur due to late cancellations, but my vacation is postponed indefinitely - what a bummer!!! :(

Well, looking at the bright-side (if there is one), I have a job with steady income and I now have more time to learn how to use the X-S1, starting with the various settings you all have suggested.

Now unpacking and about to go to work - my thanks go out to all of you.....
 
I shoot action so I don't have time to fiddle with settings, etc. I use the same settings all the time on my X-S1.

P mode, AUTO ISO3200, 6MP Fine. Everything else is pretty much set to the defaults.
 
The project I'm working on is in 'crisis mode' and my boss won't let me take my vacation (I even have to work over the next few weekends)! The company is paying for any losses I incur due to late cancellations, but my vacation is postponed indefinitely - what a bummer!!! :(

Well, looking at the bright-side (if there is one), I have a job with steady income and I now have more time to learn how to use the X-S1, starting with the various settings you all have suggested.

Now unpacking and about to go to work - my thanks go out to all of you.....
Bummer, indeed, especially to find out the weekend you are scheduled to leave. I'm sorry to hear that. :( And, yes, looking for the bright side (other than that your company seems to really, really depend on you), I think you will definitely enjoy "taking the camera on its first vacation" when you've gotten more comfortable with it.

I hope "indefinitely" will at least mean "before Christmas".

Lisetta
 
I'm taking my new X-S1 on 'its first vacation'. So far I haven't had the time to use it much and I've never used a camera as fully-featured as the X-S1 before (using a pretty simple Panasonic DMC-FH20 up to now). I've gone through the manual, and while I think I understand how to use the modes in question the manual doesn't really explain the differences (pros/cons) of these two point & shoot modes.

I don't have the time to experiment (we are leaving for Hawaii this Sunday), so I'd really appreciate getting some feedback as to which of these point and shoot modes (Auto / EXR) would be preferable, and why.
I, and one or two others, have a slightly different take on settings for the X-S1.

Coming down from DSLR, I wanted to make use of Raw shooting, so that is my preferred mode. For that it does need a different mind-set to shooting with JPEG. However, I do have my X-S1 set up for different needs using the Cx settings.

As far as I have worked out, there is no perfect 'P&S' setting on the X-S1, you really need to be prepared to experiment, and find for yourself what works best. Certainly using some of the guides published in this forum is a good place to start, but they may not always suit everyone's needs or preferences.

Starting with shooting JPEG, which I guess most will be using, I tend to find that I agree with most using some kind of EXR mode, they are needed to prevent blown highlights, or lost shadow detail. (I find, when you do a side by side comparison between a Raw and JPEG, the X-S1 has a tendency to be rather aggressive with it's levels settings, and clips highlights too much. Using the EXR DR expansion is essential to prevent this - if you use the Raw image you often find that the highlight detail is actually still there, and EXR/DR expansion is unnecessary.)

If I do shoot JPEG for any reason, I generally leave it on EXR-Auto mode, with mostly everything else on Auto. I found this seems to give the most likelihood of capturing OK shots, where a fixed generic setting is all too often wrong for a given scene (such as always using DR400).

Otherwise I personally prefer to keep maximum resolution available to me, I have a 27" iMac, and the 6MP images can often have too little headroom for cropping.

Hence I shoot at 12MP, Raw, DR100 and ISO100. This is set into my C1 on the dial.

As an option, I set the C2 to use 6MP, DR400, ISO Auto 400, but rarely use this.

I also have the 'P' mode set the same as C1, but have it set to ISO Auto 3200. for low light conditions.

This gives me three very quickly available set ups, so I can easily experiment with different settings for a given scene.

Other tips I can give, are to set Auto Exposure as preferred, I haven't found that Multi or Average are much different, so leave it on Multi. Occasionally I use Spot on an awkward subject.

Auto Focus I found works best when set to 'Area' and left at the centre spot, I expanded it slightly, and that seems to work fine for most conditions. I use it the same as I did on my DSLRs, and use half click to focus, then recompose for the shot.

Overall though, the X-S1 is not really a 'point and shoot' camera, you will really benefit by getting out with it, trying out different settings, and finding what works best for you, and how it performs under different conditions. Finally, just use it and enjoy taking photos.
 
I took my X-S1 to California as my sole camera earlier in the year and found it to be

a superb performer with landscape shots. I was not disappointed in taking the plunge

and did not much regret not bringing my HS50 also...
 
While I appreciate that reference, most of it is over my head (please keep in mind that I've never used anything but automatic point & shoot cameras)!
With this in mind, place your X-S1 in EXR mode and treat it like a point and shoot with a manual zoom lens for now. Enjoy your vacation and don't worry about it. You can learn more and dig into it later :-) No need to stress about it.

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Ken
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http://www.kwaphoto.com
Short and sweet advice - which will be easy to remember when I'm finally on the damn plane!
 
While I appreciate that reference, most of it is over my head (please keep in mind that I've never used anything but automatic point & shoot cameras)!
With this in mind, place your X-S1 in EXR mode and treat it like a point and shoot with a manual zoom lens for now. Enjoy your vacation and don't worry about it. You can learn more and dig into it later :-) No need to stress about it.
 
The project I'm working on is in 'crisis mode' and my boss won't let me take my vacation (I even have to work over the next few weekends)! The company is paying for any losses I incur due to late cancellations, but my vacation is postponed indefinitely - what a bummer!!! :(

Well, looking at the bright-side (if there is one), I have a job with steady income and I now have more time to learn how to use the X-S1, starting with the various settings you all have suggested.

Now unpacking and about to go to work - my thanks go out to all of you.....
At every company I have worked for, vacations have been sacrosanct. The best companies know that it is very damaging to work people to burnout. I hope you get your vacation in time to prevent that ...

And as for a job and a steady income, when did that become a bright side instead of a given? (Question is of course rhetorical.)

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