Was going to pull the trigger on a 60D, but I saw the 7D...

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Hi! I posted a while back that I was looking at upgrading my Rebel XT and was leaning towards the 60D, but I saw the 7D and what a nice camera!!! I wonder if it really is worth the extra $700 for me that uses it more for portraits, kids sports, family, vacation etc. My lens set today is:

Tamron XR Di II 17-50 mm
Canon EF 50 mm
Canon EF 70-210 F.4

I like that the 60D is lighter however the speed of the 7D got me mesmerized. I was looking at buying a new 70-300 lens, but I think I can salvage the one that I have by pressing the ISO up - the question is if the 60D will cut it? The 7D will do it. Thougths? I want to pull the trigger this week.

Thanks, M
 
I had a 450D and took the plunge and got myself a 7D with the 15-85, not looked back!

I think it's a fantastic camera so much so I got a second Canon refurbished 7D.

It is just such a nice camera to hold in the hand, it does not even need a grip it just feels right as it is to me.

Ultimately it's up to you.
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Phil

I wondered why the ball kept getting bigger, then it hit me.
 
The answer is very simple. If you are going to use the camera for video as well, then go for the 60D if not then 70D is for you.

stelios
 
Well it all boils down to what you are going to do.

Vari-Angle LCD screen has proven invaluable for me. Its newer technology than the 7D. I find the fps on the 60D plenty fast.

Sensors are the same so the ISO performance will be just about the same. I went with the 60D instead because the price difference considering that they are optically about the same made the 60D more worth it in my opinion. The 7D is a great camera to be sure. But that extra money was spent on other equipment especially since the logical next step for me anyways was to a full frame camera in the future.

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I have a video cam, but the question is, how feasable is it to use the 60D for video? I assume it is auto focus, otherwise I will not use it for much video. Video is definitely interesting since I have small kids and the camera is always ready vs the video cam is not...
 
It's nice to have the MFA of the 7D. I use the Tamron 17-50 and I have it tuned to +6 on the 7D and it's very, very sharp with perfect focus.

That said, if your Tamron is fine on the 60D....the image quality from both are the same. I prefer the feel of the 7D and didn't like how the 60D became more of a super rebel than what the old 10-50D models offered.
 
I have a video cam, but the question is, how feasable is it to use the 60D for video? I assume it is auto focus, otherwise I will not use it for much video. Video is definitely interesting since I have small kids and the camera is always ready vs the video cam is not...
The 60D is a wonderful video tool, you can do things with it that no consumer level video camera could ever do, and if you had the skills you could easily produce broadcast quality documentaries and short movies....but it is not the right equipment for videoing your kids.

Easier to use any of the simple P&S cameras or a "real" video camera for that.
 
Or are you really a serious sports photographer?

The twisty back would be a very helpful addition for portrait photogrphers. Landscapes, too.

The autofocus and fast multiple shooting would be helpful to a very small subset of sports photographers. Kayaking, not football -- American or European

$700 spent on an extra lens or some flash equipment will yield much better pictures than $700 spent on a 7D instead of a 60D.

BAK
 
Thanks all! I am going for the 60D. The one available locally has been on the shelf for 2 weeks. 2 pictures taken with a card and a few dozen without according to the store owner. Is this a concern or should I treat it as new? No online store can get it to me this week with free shipping. - M
 
A lot depends on the CF cards you have - they fit the 7d . Buying new cards raises the price of 60D
I went from XTI to 7d , pretty big learning curve .
I would wait till rebate seanson

By the way - I have 3 books on 7D , easier to post questions here and better info .
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Canon - efs 10-22 , 17-55 , ef 18-55 IS
EF 28-90 , 28 @ 2.8 , 50 @1.8 , 28-135 IS
L's 35-350 , 70-200 MK II IS
Quantaray lens 70-300 macro
Sigma 135 - 400
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KSM filters for all
kenko auto tubes , EF 25
 
Hi! I posted a while back that I was looking at upgrading my Rebel XT and was leaning towards the 60D, but I saw the 7D and what a nice camera!!! I wonder if it really is worth the extra $700 for me that uses it more for portraits, kids sports, family, vacation etc. My lens set today is:

Tamron XR Di II 17-50 mm
Canon EF 50 mm
Canon EF 70-210 F.4

I like that the 60D is lighter however the speed of the 7D got me mesmerized. I was looking at buying a new 70-300 lens, but I think I can salvage the one that I have by pressing the ISO up - the question is if the 60D will cut it? The 7D will do it. Thougths? I want to pull the trigger this week.

Thanks, M
I have the XTi, 50D and 7D and I use them all. The 7D is a complex but rewarding machine and, for sure it is worth its greater cost. Regarding IQ, today it is difficult to find a really great difference. Here you have four examples taken with these machines, using the Canon EF-85 f1.8 (great lens by the way). I included one sample at ISO3200 for the 7D.

Miguel

Canon 7D at ISO400, f2.8, 1/5 sec



Canon 7D at ISO3200, f2.8, 1/40 sec



Canon 50D at ISO400, f2.8, 1/8 sec



Canon XTi at ISO400, f2.8, 1/10 sec

 
agree. I found the 60D is more fun to use but my Xti still produces comparable images when using the same lens on both.
 
Hi! I posted a while back that I was looking at upgrading my Rebel XT and was leaning towards the 60D, but I saw the 7D and what a nice camera!!! I wonder if it really is worth the extra $700 for me that uses it more for portraits, kids sports, family, vacation etc. My lens set today is:

Tamron XR Di II 17-50 mm
Canon EF 50 mm
Canon EF 70-210 F.4

I like that the 60D is lighter
By only 105 grams, or about 3.7oz. (755g vs. 860g)
however the speed of the 7D got me mesmerized. I was looking at buying a new 70-300 lens, but I think I can salvage the one that I have by pressing the ISO up - the question is if the 60D will cut it? The 7D will do it. Thougths? I want to pull the trigger this week.
Both cameras will be just fine. If you're going to be shooting a lot then the 7D is well worth it. I've used the 60D and it's a fine camera, but I just can't overlook the crappy ergonomics the articulated screen hinge forces on the camera (not to mention the additional potential failure points) - you spend time drilling down through menus rather than having more discrete controls. On the other hand if you want a smaller, slightly lighter camera and an articulated screen the 60D may be perfect for you.

Image quality is very similar, but AF on the 7D is vastly superior. The 7D has a PC/Sync port, which is important if you want to use external studio strobe (pack-and-head or monolight) systems (light triggered may fail thanks to the metering preflash),
Thanks, M
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--I love my 7D. The fast af has been invaluable in many instances. Not just for birds or sports, but children's expressions can turn on a dime & I don't miss a one. My 40D was a nice camera, but upgrading to the 7D was a big improvement. Bab
http://www.flickr.com/photos/28700476@no8/
 
I was in same boat as you but coming from 20D and was more inclined towards getting 7D instead of 60D but after seeing reviews and reading things over here and kind of things I'm interested in (sounds very similar to what you do) I went with 60D. Money saved can be put towards much better lens. I bought Sigma 17-50 F2.8 with the money difference I saved for.
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Thanks
M
 
here are first set of images from this weekend from 60D with kit lens 18-135 IS with some post processing in LR3 and Nik Software

























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Thanks
M
 
Both cameras will be just fine. If you're going to be shooting a lot then the 7D is well worth it. I've used the 60D and it's a fine camera, but I just can't overlook the crappy ergonomics the articulated screen hinge forces on the camera (not to mention the additional potential failure points) - you spend time drilling down through menus rather than having more discrete controls. On the other hand if you want a smaller, slightly lighter camera and an articulated screen the 60D may be perfect for you.

Image quality is very similar, but AF on the 7D is vastly superior. The 7D has a PC/Sync port, which is important if you want to use external studio strobe (pack-and-head or monolight) systems (light triggered may fail thanks to the metering preflash),
These comments of yours are very tired. Seems that they are regurgitated from the silly anger seen here back at the launch of the 60D. I am surprised you didn't refer to the plastic body that the peanut gallery said was going to fall apart.

Nothing wrong with the 60D's ergonomics. You could say that about any camera that has a different layout to the one you are used to. Purely subjective.

The articulated screen is one of the major bonuses of the 60D. I can't remember how many times I have used mine for both digital and stills to get angles that would have been difficult or impossible with a fixed screen. In fact, if you look at the current wishlists floating around for the 7D mkII the articulated screen seems to appear very regularly.

No one has yet reported a fault with their 60D screen hinge, and Canon have been producing screens like this on powershots for umpteen years with no problems.

The 60D has been praised by many including the DPR review for simplifying the controls, and there is enough customization to make it do what you want as long as you bother to read the manual.

AF on the 7D is "vastly superior" on paper but in practise, most people will never use all the functions it has to offer. May people have had problems with the 7D autofocus simply becaue it is too complex for their level. Additionally, there are many fine BIF shots on this forum from members using the 60D.

The PC/Sync port is old hat. Even many semi-pro / pro users of the 7D on this forum state that they never use it. The majority are using remote flash either by the built in system or a hot shoe radio controlled unit.

The 7D is a great camera but for many (me included) there were too many bells and whistles that I knew I would not need plus the price difference allowed me to buy a 580 EXII and a good tripod with the money I saved by going to the 60D.
 

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