Not unless your favorite Canon prime is from Sigma
Japan, yes. The stuff arrived last Saturday... but I had a reluctant GF holding up my GF1
The G1 was indeed purchased for the 14-45/45-200 double-lens kit (and a spare battery). The cost is only about $650 in Japan, so it was cheaper than buying the lenses + battery separately. I got red because... well, it was the last color still in stock at the place I preordered the GF1 (which I chose because it was in-line with the other low-price shops, but, this rare for Japan, it accepted credit cards... which I used to avoid COD/transfer charges, and to earn points back at rakuten.com... convoluted, yes, but nothing compared to your problems with Amazon/Panasonic in the US!)
See, I would rather take one less Leica lens, if it meant one more M9 body.
pros and cons either way...As long as you are willing to trade me EP1 noise for that on my GF1... why, sure
when you do get them side by side, have a look at how face detection works with the 20mm f1.7... I'd be interested in your report.Joking aside, I only have experience with the EP1 jpegs (they seemed obviously cleaner at ISO1600+), though I guess its about time to shoot side by side with my friends EP1 in RAW now that CS4 supports it. He didn't even get the pancake this week! After seeing how it worked for me in low light today, he assured me "This weekend. But really, you sure it doesn't require any adapter?"
As Brian said, its a pancake lens... objective size takes precedence over subjective qualities. But that said, there just aren't any "good" sub-50mm lenses bokeh-wise on Canon FF. I own or have owned the 35L, 35/2, 24L, 24LII, and none of them are winning smoothness awards (all with nisen bokeh, and over-corrected spherical aberration). I don't have experience with the 24/2.8, 28/2.8, 28/1.8, but they are not famous for their OOF area performance. In fact, the best "normal" lens for FF bokeh is the Sigma 50/1.4 which has excellent portrait-lens quality characterisitcs (not far from the 85L). The Canon 50/1.8 is as bad (or worse) than the 20/1.7 and the Canon 50/1.4 is pretty lackluster as well.
Wow, thanks! I'm not holding my breath waiting for Panasonic... after all I did to promote the excellent Sigma 30/50 lenses in the last four years, I still haven't seen a lousy T-shirt!
I don't want to oversell the product because there are certainly some downsides coming from FF. Probably not mentioned enough is the fact that the shutter on the GF1 is far from silent, and if people didn't notice what you were doing before the picture is taken, they certainly are aware of it immediately after the fact (that the camera can be held so far away and still make that much shutter noise has me thinking it isn't far removed from the 5D2 mirror/shutter in raw dB - in fact I would say that the "silent" LV shooting mode on the 5D2 is several times quieter). AF is not as fast as a DSLR, however the face-recognition eliminates some of the time delay with "focus-then-recomposing" which itself sometimes misses the "decisive moment" in candids (don't know focus placement until you see the shot, at which point no time to re-frame, ect). You are going on faith here, and if it picks the wrong face (it happens) or can't find a face and defaults on a bookshelf (yep) you are SOL - there is no simple way to "force" the focus in the heat of the moment.
The grip is different though, and I don't mean the handhold on the right side. Shooting with the zoom I actually hold the camera in the palm of my left hand and bring it to my right when I shoot. This feels much less "photo oriented" since being right handed I am free to occupy myself (and appear less confrontational) while waiting for a shot. The balance is right in the middle unlike the G1 where the body weight has the combo falling "back" into you (hard to hold in the left). I would say this is the nicest camera combo I have ever tried from a "handholdability" standpoint... metal body with a solid (no play unlike the Oly) kit-zoom. Conversely, when you mount the pancake, you have to use the strap and keep it on your right at all times.
Yes, that is the one sure advantage of the Oly zoom here.
It looks like a bridge camera though, which is still an advantage from the photographer's standpoint.
I observed, that bokeh is better outside and weaker inside, which can be related to higher ISOs used inside. Simply the background is somehow digitalised - maybe it is related to noise or removing that noise.
Be aware:
If you are specifically referring to bokeh my pictures, it is probably a combination of ISO noise magnified by standard sharpening (I think 150, 0.3 USM, but I made that script a long time ago). I am far too lazy to apply selective sharpening. Better things to do with my time
yeah, I've been promoting the sigma 30 since they came out (fairly early adopter). I got one person to buy it. He subsequently sold it to buy the 50 when he went FF. No t-shirt here either, hahWow, thanks! I'm not holding my breath waiting for Panasonic... after all I did to promote the excellent Sigma 30/50 lenses in the last four years, I still haven't seen a lousy T-shirt!
--Japan, yes. The stuff arrived last Saturday... but I had a reluctant GF holding up my GF1
The G1 was indeed purchased for the 14-45/45-200 double-lens kit (and a spare battery). The cost is only about $650 in Japan, so it was cheaper than buying the lenses + battery separately. I got red because... well, it was the last color still in stock at the place I preordered the GF1 (which I chose because it was in-line with the other low-price shops, but, this rare for Japan, it accepted credit cards... which I used to avoid COD/transfer charges, and to earn points back at rakuten.com... convoluted, yes, but nothing compared to your problems with Amazon/Panasonic in the US!)
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