Next problem...Phil

JulesJ · Jul 29, 2009

Isn't it incredibly boring that when you hit the Next link to view the next image in a Challenge that you can't see the bottom of the image and EVERY time you have to scroll the screen to see the bottom part of the entry.

Come on DPR, I rarely complain about anything on this great forum but this is a problem that thousands of badly made photographer's websites have and DPR should have learned about this long ago. ie put the image at the top of the screen and that way it won't be half off the bottom each new image is shown.

Jules

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Phil Askey · Jul 29, 2009

Oh the shame! I guess you didn't try the slideshow mode or tried the keyboard shortcuts?

JulesJ said:
Isn't it incredibly boring that when you hit the Next link to view the next image in a Challenge that you can't see the bottom of the image and EVERY time you have to scroll the screen to see the bottom part of the entry.

Come on DPR, I rarely complain about anything on this great forum but this is a problem that thousands of badly made photographer's websites have and DPR should have learned about this long ago. ie put the image at the top of the screen and that way it won't be half off the bottom each new image is shown.

Jules

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JulesJ · Jul 30, 2009

Thanks for the reply Phil.
This does not solve the problem. Load this example

http://www.dpreview.com/challenges/Entry.aspx?ID=132110&View=Results&Rows=4

and hit the 'n' key to get the next image for example and you will see the image is off the bottom of the screen and you still have to slide the side bar to see the whole image.

The Slideshow mode is a huge improvement, yes its excellent and I hadn't tried that. Still the first few images you look at still have the thumbnails covering the bottom 10% of the images and then after a few new views they disappear. I'm not quite sure why that is, probably a bug to be solved soon.

But these are small criticisms on this great site.

jules

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Wouldn't it be great is the ESC key on PCs did something?

Phil Askey · Jul 30, 2009

Not on my screen.

JulesJ said:
Thanks for the reply Phil.
This does not solve the problem. Load this example

http://www.dpreview.com/challenges/Entry.aspx?ID=132110&View=Results&Rows=4

and hit the 'n' key to get the next image for example and you will see the image is off the bottom of the screen and you still have to slide the side bar to see the whole image.

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Peter G · Jul 30, 2009

JulesJ said:
Thanks for the reply Phil.
This does not solve the problem. Load this example

http://www.dpreview.com/challenges/Entry.aspx?ID=132110&View=Results&Rows=4

and hit the 'n' key to get the next image for example and you will see the image is off the bottom of the screen and you still have to slide the side bar to see the whole image.

It isn't even close here. The bottom of the next image (portrait orientation) still has a good almost two inches before the bottom of the screen. If anything I was wondering why the image was so tiny.

I assume you must be running at very low resolution to have this problem. I tried in Firefox and Opera, no problem in either.

Anfy · Jul 30, 2009

... which I found nevertheless a little annoying (hoping not to annoy Mr. Askey): in the "challenges bar" the first picture displayed is not clickable, one has to check the smaller thumbnail and click it to show the full size picture.

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Adrian Godong · Jul 30, 2009

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JulesJ · Jul 30, 2009

I am running my screen at 1280 x 1024 and using Mozilla. As I said the image after the one that I posted comes up with the bottom part not visible as it off the bottom of the screen. See a screen shot here taken immediately after hitting 'n'.
Jules

Jules

Peter G said:
JulesJ said:

Thanks for the reply Phil.
This does not solve the problem. Load this example

http://www.dpreview.com/challenges/Entry.aspx?ID=132110&View=Results&Rows=4

and hit the 'n' key to get the next image for example and you will see the image is off the bottom of the screen and you still have to slide the side bar to see the whole image.

Click to expand...

Peter G said:
I assume you must be running at very low resolution to have this problem. I tried in Firefox and Opera, no problem in either.

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Peter G · Jul 30, 2009

JulesJ said:
I am running my screen at 1280 x 1024 and using Mozilla. As I said the image after the one that I posted comes up with the bottom part not visible as it off the bottom of the screen. See a screen shot here taken immediately after hitting 'n'.
Jules

Ok. I see. I am running 1920x1200 so a fair bit more vertical space.

I think Phil could move/remove that "new comments" box, or have only side banners on this page. Vertical space does seem to be in short supply here for most monitors these days as 1920x1080 have taken over from 1920x1200 like mine.

Bobo Hodls · Jul 30, 2009

It looks to me like you could find a temp solution in condensing your tool bars (drag the yahoo bar next to the links bar), or run the browser in full screen mode to gain more real estate for the Challenge displays. The latter is just an F-key toggle, no?

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Anfy · Jul 30, 2009

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Stevequad · Jul 30, 2009

Using ADBLOCK may give you a little more screenspace also!
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JulesJ · Jul 31, 2009

I could do all that. I happilly have browsed the internet everyday now for years and years and never found it nevcessary on any other site. I'm not prepared the way I browse and lose the stuff at the top which is very useful just for this one site. A million other sites work ok, are they all wrong and DPR right? lol.
jules

Bob Tullis said:
It looks to me like you could find a temp solution in condensing your tool bars (drag the yahoo bar next to the links bar), or run the browser in full screen mode to gain more real estate for the Challenge displays. The latter is just an F-key toggle, no?

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Darrakk · Jul 31, 2009

Wow really? You never have to scroll down on any other website? That's a trick I need to learn. Save me tons of scrolling on CNN.

One other thing, someone suggested AD Block. Why would you do that? There is a lot of free quality content on the web because of advertisers. I can't support anything that might damage that. Someone on another forum the other day asked how to skip commercials in Hulu. Here you have free TV, on demand, and people don't want to watch maybe 90 seconds of commercials for 25 minutes of show?

Back to ad blockers, sure there are sites with annoying banner adds (like those stupid smiley banners that yell "NO WAY" when you mouse over them) but still, I would rather not view the site than go out of my way to avoid the reason the site (and many others) are free in the first place.

Adrian Godong · Jul 31, 2009

Peter G said:
I think Phil could move/remove that "new comments" box, or have only side banners on this page.

The box is a temporary notification, we will definitely remove it on the future.

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Soenda · Jul 31, 2009

Darrakk said:
Wow really? You never have to scroll down on any other website? That's a trick I need to learn. Save me tons of scrolling on CNN.

One other thing, someone suggested AD Block. Why would you do that? There is a lot of free quality content on the web because of advertisers. I can't support anything that might damage that. Someone on another forum the other day asked how to skip commercials in Hulu. Here you have free TV, on demand, and people don't want to watch maybe 90 seconds of commercials for 25 minutes of show?

If only that were true! Ninety seconds per half hour of show might have been true once, but it isn't anymore, at least, not in the US. Here's an excerpt from WikiP.

"Advertisements take airtime away from programs. In the 1960s a typical hour-long American show would run for 51 minutes excluding advertisements. Today, a similar program would only be 42 minutes long; a typical 30-minute block of time now includes 22 minutes of programming with 6 minutes of national advertising and 2 minutes of local."
( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_advertisement )

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Bobo Hodls · Jul 31, 2009

JulesJ said:
I could do all that. I happilly have browsed the internet everyday now for years and years and never found it nevcessary on any other site. I'm not prepared the way I browse and lose the stuff at the top which is very useful just for this one site. A million other sites work ok, are they all wrong and DPR right? lol.

It was just a suggestion, Jules, until changes were made to accommodate this (so far) rather unique complaint. I wasn't sure if you were wedded to all your shown links, but primarily I didn't think it too inconvenient to offer the full screen toggle for the time being, should it give some temporary satisfaction.

You're welcome, anyway.

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'Well, sometimes the magic works. . . Sometimes, it doesn't.' - Little Big Man

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JulesJ · Jul 31, 2009

Sure I've had to scroll down, but it always annoys me when it is a photographers site showing one picture after another and you have to do this.
Scrolling down because a page has loads of info on it is of course fine.
jules

Darrakk said:
Wow really? You never have to scroll down on any other website? That's a trick I need to learn. Save me tons of scrolling on CNN.

One other thing, someone suggested AD Block. Why would you do that? There is a lot of free quality content on the web because of advertisers. I can't support anything that might damage that. Someone on another forum the other day asked how to skip commercials in Hulu. Here you have free TV, on demand, and people don't want to watch maybe 90 seconds of commercials for 25 minutes of show?

Back to ad blockers, sure there are sites with annoying banner adds (like those stupid smiley banners that yell "NO WAY" when you mouse over them) but still, I would rather not view the site than go out of my way to avoid the reason the site (and many others) are free in the first place.

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JulesJ · Jul 31, 2009

Thanks Bob
Jules

Bob Tullis said:
It was just a suggestion, Jules, until changes were made to accommodate this (so far) rather unique complaint. I wasn't sure if you were wedded to all your shown links, but primarily I didn't think it too inconvenient to offer the full screen toggle for the time being, should it give some temporary satisfaction.

You're welcome, anyway.

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...Bob, NYC

'Well, sometimes the magic works. . . Sometimes, it doesn't.' - Little Big Man

Galleries : http://www.bobtullis.com

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Wouldn't it be great is the ESC key on PCs did something?

Peter G · Jul 31, 2009

I really think Yahoo toolbar is a waste of precious screen real estate. I don't add any extra tool bars. I am sure a simple plug in or two could duplicate Yahoo bar without wasting the screen area.

Also I have my windows task bar on the bottom set to auto hide, to free even more precious vertical real estate.

These aren't site specific suggestions.

I have 1200 lines vertically and I fight everything that tries to steal so much as a pixel of that precious space.

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