E-10 -why I won't replace with a D100, D60, D1x, 1d etc.

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I own an E-10 and take mostly scenic and still photos in relatively decent light.. Therefore, the somewhat slow write times and low light focusing issues are simply not a problem for me. After, considering the purchase of an interchangeable lens digital SLR (IDSLR) I’m pretty sure I will keep my E-10 and not buy a Canon 1D, Canon D60, Fuji S2, Nikon D1x, Sigma or Nikon D100. Following are my reasons which apply to the E-20 as well :

DUST - I have had my E-10 for more than a year and there is no sign of dust on the CCD. I do not want a camera where I have to worry each time I clean the dust that I might damage the CCD or color filter. Despite protestations to the contrary by some owners of IDSLRs there are numerous posts on each IDSLR forum citing problems with dust. Maybe, Sigma has licked this problem, we will see.

LEAF SHUTTER - The leaf shutter allows a flash synch speed of up to 1/640 of a second with the built in flash. This means you can use fill in flash at higher shutter speeds with the built in flash. Also, it contributes to the dust free nature of the E-10, as high speed focal plane shutters create dust.

DEPTH OF FIELD - The depth of field of the E-10 is about 2.6 times that of a IDSLR. This means that at the same 35mm focal length equivalent and the same aperture you always will get considerably more depth of field with the E-10. Thus for a given depth of field you can use a larger aperture with the E-10 and therefore a faster shutter speed to avoid blurring due to camera shake. F5.6 on the E-10 has approximately the same depth of field as a 35mm at f22. A typical IDSLR at f5.6 would have approximately the same depth of field as a 35mm at f10. Even at f2 the E-10 has approximately the same depth of field as a 35mm at f8. Depth of field is not something you can manufacture with image software. You can use image software to blur portions of a photo when that result is desired.

VIBRATION FREE - There is no mirror slap to create vibration. Also, a leaf shutter vibrates less than a focal plane shutter. The result is that you can take a photo at slow shutter speeds with less blurring then with IDSLRs.

QUIET - The E-10 is quieter than IDSLRS as it does not have a mirror slapping when you take a photo. This is a real advantage when taking photos where there is a desire for quiet (e.g. theaters, ceremonies, etc).

MULTI ANGLE LCD PREVIEW - This makes it much easier to take candid photos of people. You can hold the E-10 at waist level and appear to be fiddling with it and take a picture without the subject knowing. The quietness of the E-10 is also a help. The LCD can make it much easier to take photos from a low position or holding the camera over your head. To have a multi angle LCD with preview on an SLR is a real bonus. It can also help in composing your photo as you see a miniature of your photo with two eyes.

PORTABLE QUALITY - The E-10 is a beautifully built camera with superb ergonomics. Although, it is no lightweight when you consider its wonderful build quality, fast F2:2.4 zoom lens and built in flash it is quite light. I pack mine on my belt in a holster camera bag. I can’t compare the ergonomics to the IDSLRs as I have not used them. However, I have owned numerous 35mm SLRs (including a Canon EOS1) and medium format cameras (Hasselblad, Pentax 645) and the E-10 has the best ergonomics of any camera I have owned.

LENSES - Where else can you get a sharp f2-2.4 35 to 140 zoom lens. Where else can you buy extra lenses for about $1000 which will give you a range from 28mm to 600mm at f2 to f2.8 .

PIXEL MAPPING - If you get a stuck pixel you don’t have to send it in for repair. Just run pixel mapping.

Frank B
 
I own an E-10 and take mostly scenic and still photos in relatively
decent light.. Therefore, the somewhat slow write times and low
light focusing issues are simply not a problem for me. After,
considering the purchase of an interchangeable lens digital SLR
(IDSLR) I’m pretty sure I will keep my E-10 and not buy a Canon 1D,
Canon D60, Fuji S2, Nikon D1x, Sigma or Nikon D100. Following are
my reasons which apply to the E-20 as well :

DUST - I have had my E-10 for more than a year and there is no sign
of dust on the CCD. I do not want a camera where I have to worry
each time I clean the dust that I might damage the CCD or color
filter. Despite protestations to the contrary by some owners of
IDSLRs there are numerous posts on each IDSLR forum citing
problems with dust. Maybe, Sigma has licked this problem, we will
see.

LEAF SHUTTER - The leaf shutter allows a flash synch speed of up
to 1/640 of a second with the built in flash. This means you can
use fill in flash at higher shutter speeds with the built in flash.
Also, it contributes to the dust free nature of the E-10, as high
speed focal plane shutters create dust.

DEPTH OF FIELD - The depth of field of the E-10 is about 2.6 times
that of a IDSLR. This means that at the same 35mm focal length
equivalent and the same aperture you always will get considerably
more depth of field with the E-10. Thus for a given depth of field
you can use a larger aperture with the E-10 and therefore a faster
shutter speed to avoid blurring due to camera shake. F5.6 on the
E-10 has approximately the same depth of field as a 35mm at f22. A
typical IDSLR at f5.6 would have approximately the same depth of
field as a 35mm at f10. Even at f2 the E-10 has approximately the
same depth of field as a 35mm at f8. Depth of field is not
something you can manufacture with image software. You can use
image software to blur portions of a photo when that result is
desired.

VIBRATION FREE - There is no mirror slap to create vibration.
Also, a leaf shutter vibrates less than a focal plane shutter. The
result is that you can take a photo at slow shutter speeds with
less blurring then with IDSLRs.

QUIET - The E-10 is quieter than IDSLRS as it does not have a
mirror slapping when you take a photo. This is a real advantage
when taking photos where there is a desire for quiet (e.g.
theaters, ceremonies, etc).

MULTI ANGLE LCD PREVIEW - This makes it much easier to take candid
photos of people. You can hold the E-10 at waist level and appear
to be fiddling with it and take a picture without the subject
knowing. The quietness of the E-10 is also a help. The LCD can
make it much easier to take photos from a low position or holding
the camera over your head. To have a multi angle LCD with preview
on an SLR is a real bonus. It can also help in composing your
photo as you see a miniature of your photo with two eyes.

PORTABLE QUALITY - The E-10 is a beautifully built camera with
superb ergonomics. Although, it is no lightweight when you
consider its wonderful build quality, fast F2:2.4 zoom lens and
built in flash it is quite light. I pack mine on my belt in a
holster camera bag. I can’t compare the ergonomics to the IDSLRs
as I have not used them. However, I have owned numerous 35mm SLRs
(including a Canon EOS1) and medium format cameras (Hasselblad,
Pentax 645) and the E-10 has the best ergonomics of any camera I
have owned.

LENSES - Where else can you get a sharp f2-2.4 35 to 140 zoom lens.
Where else can you buy extra lenses for about $1000 which will give
you a range from 28mm to 600mm at f2 to f2.8 .

PIXEL MAPPING - If you get a stuck pixel you don’t have to send it
in for repair. Just run pixel mapping.

Frank B
Frank,

I concur whole-heartedly.

Also, the image quality that I get my E-10 is very good to say the least. I get consistantly wonderful 10 x 15 prints from my local lab, so I know the that 11 x 14 would be great (if their machine would only go 11" wide) and I believe that 16 x 20 is not out of the rhelm of the E-10.

It will be some time before I consider up grading my digital hardware as my E-10 affords me all the capability that my business requires at this time and the foreseeable future.

George
 
I own an E-10 and take mostly scenic and still photos in relatively
decent light.. Therefore, the somewhat slow write times and low
light focusing issues are simply not a problem for me. After,
considering the purchase of an interchangeable lens digital SLR
(IDSLR) I’m pretty sure I will keep my E-10 and not buy a Canon 1D,
Canon D60, Fuji S2, Nikon D1x, Sigma or Nikon D100. Following are
my reasons which apply to the E-20 as well :

DUST - I have had my E-10 for more than a year and there is no sign
of dust on the CCD. I do not want a camera where I have to worry
each time I clean the dust that I might damage the CCD or color
filter. Despite protestations to the contrary by some owners of
IDSLRs there are numerous posts on each IDSLR forum citing
problems with dust. Maybe, Sigma has licked this problem, we will
see.

LEAF SHUTTER - The leaf shutter allows a flash synch speed of up
to 1/640 of a second with the built in flash. This means you can
use fill in flash at higher shutter speeds with the built in flash.
Also, it contributes to the dust free nature of the E-10, as high
speed focal plane shutters create dust.

DEPTH OF FIELD - The depth of field of the E-10 is about 2.6 times
that of a IDSLR. This means that at the same 35mm focal length
equivalent and the same aperture you always will get considerably
more depth of field with the E-10. Thus for a given depth of field
you can use a larger aperture with the E-10 and therefore a faster
shutter speed to avoid blurring due to camera shake. F5.6 on the
E-10 has approximately the same depth of field as a 35mm at f22. A
typical IDSLR at f5.6 would have approximately the same depth of
field as a 35mm at f10. Even at f2 the E-10 has approximately the
same depth of field as a 35mm at f8. Depth of field is not
something you can manufacture with image software. You can use
image software to blur portions of a photo when that result is
desired.

VIBRATION FREE - There is no mirror slap to create vibration.
Also, a leaf shutter vibrates less than a focal plane shutter. The
result is that you can take a photo at slow shutter speeds with
less blurring then with IDSLRs.

QUIET - The E-10 is quieter than IDSLRS as it does not have a
mirror slapping when you take a photo. This is a real advantage
when taking photos where there is a desire for quiet (e.g.
theaters, ceremonies, etc).

MULTI ANGLE LCD PREVIEW - This makes it much easier to take candid
photos of people. You can hold the E-10 at waist level and appear
to be fiddling with it and take a picture without the subject
knowing. The quietness of the E-10 is also a help. The LCD can
make it much easier to take photos from a low position or holding
the camera over your head. To have a multi angle LCD with preview
on an SLR is a real bonus. It can also help in composing your
photo as you see a miniature of your photo with two eyes.

PORTABLE QUALITY - The E-10 is a beautifully built camera with
superb ergonomics. Although, it is no lightweight when you
consider its wonderful build quality, fast F2:2.4 zoom lens and
built in flash it is quite light. I pack mine on my belt in a
holster camera bag. I can’t compare the ergonomics to the IDSLRs
as I have not used them. However, I have owned numerous 35mm SLRs
(including a Canon EOS1) and medium format cameras (Hasselblad,
Pentax 645) and the E-10 has the best ergonomics of any camera I
have owned.

LENSES - Where else can you get a sharp f2-2.4 35 to 140 zoom lens.
Where else can you buy extra lenses for about $1000 which will give
you a range from 28mm to 600mm at f2 to f2.8 .

PIXEL MAPPING - If you get a stuck pixel you don’t have to send it
in for repair. Just run pixel mapping.

Frank B
I agree too. I was mulling over whether or not selling and going to the D60. I think I'm going to keep mine and continue to enjoy it. Then I'll wait and see what Oly has to offer in the way of a true upgrade.
 
Hi Frank

Having just bought a D1X, I feel it's incumbent on me to start a flame war here by answering your post. So, here goes.
I own an E-10 and take mostly scenic and still photos in relatively
decent light.. Therefore, the somewhat slow write times and low
light focusing issues are simply not a problem for me. After,
considering the purchase of an interchangeable lens digital SLR
(IDSLR) I’m pretty sure I will keep my E-10 and not buy a Canon 1D,
Canon D60, Fuji S2, Nikon D1x, Sigma or Nikon D100. Following are
my reasons which apply to the E-20 as well :

DUST - I have had my E-10 for more than a year and there is no sign
of dust on the CCD. I do not want a camera where I have to worry
each time I clean the dust that I might damage the CCD or color
filter. Despite protestations to the contrary by some owners of
IDSLRs there are numerous posts on each IDSLR forum citing
problems with dust. Maybe, Sigma has licked this problem, we will
see.
Absolutely right - I'm having nightmares already.
LEAF SHUTTER - The leaf shutter allows a flash synch speed of up
to 1/640 of a second with the built in flash. This means you can
use fill in flash at higher shutter speeds with the built in flash.
Also, it contributes to the dust free nature of the E-10, as high
speed focal plane shutters create dust.
Completely right - and in 18 months use of the e10 I never once found that 1/640th was not enough
DEPTH OF FIELD - The depth of field of the E-10 is about 2.6 times
that of a IDSLR. This means that at the same 35mm focal length
equivalent and the same aperture you always will get considerably
more depth of field with the E-10. Thus for a given depth of field
you can use a larger aperture with the E-10 and therefore a faster
shutter speed to avoid blurring due to camera shake. F5.6 on the
E-10 has approximately the same depth of field as a 35mm at f22. A
typical IDSLR at f5.6 would have approximately the same depth of
field as a 35mm at f10. Even at f2 the E-10 has approximately the
same depth of field as a 35mm at f8. Depth of field is not
something you can manufacture with image software. You can use
image software to blur portions of a photo when that result is
desired.
Even more important - this is a serious issue, and for still life and macro photography in particular it's a huge advantage.
VIBRATION FREE - There is no mirror slap to create vibration.
Also, a leaf shutter vibrates less than a focal plane shutter. The
result is that you can take a photo at slow shutter speeds with
less blurring then with IDSLRs.
How can I disagree
QUIET - The E-10 is quieter than IDSLRS as it does not have a
mirror slapping when you take a photo. This is a real advantage
when taking photos where there is a desire for quiet (e.g.
theaters, ceremonies, etc).
Many have spent a fortune on Leica rangefinder cameras, simply for the quietness - the E10 is considerably quiter (as long as you turn off that damned beep).
MULTI ANGLE LCD PREVIEW - This makes it much easier to take candid
photos of people. You can hold the E-10 at waist level and appear
to be fiddling with it and take a picture without the subject
knowing. The quietness of the E-10 is also a help. The LCD can
make it much easier to take photos from a low position or holding
the camera over your head. To have a multi angle LCD with preview
on an SLR is a real bonus. It can also help in composing your
photo as you see a miniature of your photo with two eyes.
Didn't use it much as the quietness served the same purpose, but it's certainly usefull for taking very low angled shots of things without lying on the ground.
PORTABLE QUALITY - The E-10 is a beautifully built camera with
superb ergonomics. Although, it is no lightweight when you
consider its wonderful build quality, fast F2:2.4 zoom lens and
built in flash it is quite light. I pack mine on my belt in a
holster camera bag. I can’t compare the ergonomics to the IDSLRs
as I have not used them. However, I have owned numerous 35mm SLRs
(including a Canon EOS1) and medium format cameras (Hasselblad,
Pentax 645) and the E-10 has the best ergonomics of any camera I
have owned.
Couldn't agree more - the ergonomics are great
LENSES - Where else can you get a sharp f2-2.4 35 to 140 zoom lens.
Where else can you buy extra lenses for about $1000 which will give
you a range from 28mm to 600mm at f2 to f2.8 .
Never could get on with the tele-converters as I like to zoom, but the standard lense itself and the Wcon are both great.
PIXEL MAPPING - If you get a stuck pixel you don’t have to send it
in for repair. Just run pixel mapping.
As you say!

Huh - not much of a flamer. I have reasons for my D1X, but as I've said before, I'll certainly be keeping my E10

kind regards
jono slack--Jono Slack http://www.slack.co.uk
 
Beth wrote:

I read your subject, Jono, and wondered what you'd be posting. Thought maybe you'd post one of your new D1X rooster/chicken shots and say, "That's why." But as always the consummate gentleman, Jono comes through making us all wonder why he EVER bought a D1X. Well, let me tell you. Here are a couple reasons I can think might explain it...

No wait time for the camera to turn on and wake up.
Fast shooting with no wait time for shots to write to the media.
The feel of quality.
Beautiful, noise-free photos.

What did I leave out, Jono?

These are just a few I read on the Nikon forum. It isn't healthy to venture over there. The more you know, the more tempting it gets. But NO, I can't afford it! "Maybe my coworkers will buy me one as a retirement present," I think loudly. Ya, RIGHT!!

Did I take the bait well enough?

--Olympus E-10, TCON, MCON, WCON and Fl-40Gallery: http://www.pbase.com/galleries/cokids
 
George,

I absolutely agree. I came close to including TruePic in my list as I think the color and prints from the E-10 are wonderful. However, it ia a somewhat subjective judgment so I did not include it.

Frank B
I own an E-10 and take mostly scenic and still photos in relatively
decent light.. Therefore, the somewhat slow write times and low
light focusing issues are simply not a problem for me. After,
considering the purchase of an interchangeable lens digital SLR
(IDSLR) I’m pretty sure I will keep my E-10 and not buy a Canon 1D,
Canon D60, Fuji S2, Nikon D1x, Sigma or Nikon D100. Following are
my reasons which apply to the E-20 as well :

DUST - I have had my E-10 for more than a year and there is no sign
of dust on the CCD. I do not want a camera where I have to worry
each time I clean the dust that I might damage the CCD or color
filter. Despite protestations to the contrary by some owners of
IDSLRs there are numerous posts on each IDSLR forum citing
problems with dust. Maybe, Sigma has licked this problem, we will
see.

LEAF SHUTTER - The leaf shutter allows a flash synch speed of up
to 1/640 of a second with the built in flash. This means you can
use fill in flash at higher shutter speeds with the built in flash.
Also, it contributes to the dust free nature of the E-10, as high
speed focal plane shutters create dust.

DEPTH OF FIELD - The depth of field of the E-10 is about 2.6 times
that of a IDSLR. This means that at the same 35mm focal length
equivalent and the same aperture you always will get considerably
more depth of field with the E-10. Thus for a given depth of field
you can use a larger aperture with the E-10 and therefore a faster
shutter speed to avoid blurring due to camera shake. F5.6 on the
E-10 has approximately the same depth of field as a 35mm at f22. A
typical IDSLR at f5.6 would have approximately the same depth of
field as a 35mm at f10. Even at f2 the E-10 has approximately the
same depth of field as a 35mm at f8. Depth of field is not
something you can manufacture with image software. You can use
image software to blur portions of a photo when that result is
desired.

VIBRATION FREE - There is no mirror slap to create vibration.
Also, a leaf shutter vibrates less than a focal plane shutter. The
result is that you can take a photo at slow shutter speeds with
less blurring then with IDSLRs.

QUIET - The E-10 is quieter than IDSLRS as it does not have a
mirror slapping when you take a photo. This is a real advantage
when taking photos where there is a desire for quiet (e.g.
theaters, ceremonies, etc).

MULTI ANGLE LCD PREVIEW - This makes it much easier to take candid
photos of people. You can hold the E-10 at waist level and appear
to be fiddling with it and take a picture without the subject
knowing. The quietness of the E-10 is also a help. The LCD can
make it much easier to take photos from a low position or holding
the camera over your head. To have a multi angle LCD with preview
on an SLR is a real bonus. It can also help in composing your
photo as you see a miniature of your photo with two eyes.

PORTABLE QUALITY - The E-10 is a beautifully built camera with
superb ergonomics. Although, it is no lightweight when you
consider its wonderful build quality, fast F2:2.4 zoom lens and
built in flash it is quite light. I pack mine on my belt in a
holster camera bag. I can’t compare the ergonomics to the IDSLRs
as I have not used them. However, I have owned numerous 35mm SLRs
(including a Canon EOS1) and medium format cameras (Hasselblad,
Pentax 645) and the E-10 has the best ergonomics of any camera I
have owned.

LENSES - Where else can you get a sharp f2-2.4 35 to 140 zoom lens.
Where else can you buy extra lenses for about $1000 which will give
you a range from 28mm to 600mm at f2 to f2.8 .

PIXEL MAPPING - If you get a stuck pixel you don’t have to send it
in for repair. Just run pixel mapping.

Frank B
Frank,

I concur whole-heartedly.

Also, the image quality that I get my E-10 is very good to say the
least. I get consistantly wonderful 10 x 15 prints from my local
lab, so I know the that 11 x 14 would be great (if their machine
would only go 11" wide) and I believe that 16 x 20 is not out of
the rhelm of the E-10.

It will be some time before I consider up grading my digital
hardware as my E-10 affords me all the capability that my business
requires at this time and the foreseeable future.

George
 
James,

I hope to wait to see if Olympus brings out an E-30 or the rumored intercchangeable lens camera. Although, I probably would be happiest with a 6mp low noise E-30.

Frank
I own an E-10 and take mostly scenic and still photos in relatively
decent light.. Therefore, the somewhat slow write times and low
light focusing issues are simply not a problem for me. After,
considering the purchase of an interchangeable lens digital SLR
(IDSLR) I’m pretty sure I will keep my E-10 and not buy a Canon 1D,
Canon D60, Fuji S2, Nikon D1x, Sigma or Nikon D100. Following are
my reasons which apply to the E-20 as well :

DUST - I have had my E-10 for more than a year and there is no sign
of dust on the CCD. I do not want a camera where I have to worry
each time I clean the dust that I might damage the CCD or color
filter. Despite protestations to the contrary by some owners of
IDSLRs there are numerous posts on each IDSLR forum citing
problems with dust. Maybe, Sigma has licked this problem, we will
see.

LEAF SHUTTER - The leaf shutter allows a flash synch speed of up
to 1/640 of a second with the built in flash. This means you can
use fill in flash at higher shutter speeds with the built in flash.
Also, it contributes to the dust free nature of the E-10, as high
speed focal plane shutters create dust.

DEPTH OF FIELD - The depth of field of the E-10 is about 2.6 times
that of a IDSLR. This means that at the same 35mm focal length
equivalent and the same aperture you always will get considerably
more depth of field with the E-10. Thus for a given depth of field
you can use a larger aperture with the E-10 and therefore a faster
shutter speed to avoid blurring due to camera shake. F5.6 on the
E-10 has approximately the same depth of field as a 35mm at f22. A
typical IDSLR at f5.6 would have approximately the same depth of
field as a 35mm at f10. Even at f2 the E-10 has approximately the
same depth of field as a 35mm at f8. Depth of field is not
something you can manufacture with image software. You can use
image software to blur portions of a photo when that result is
desired.

VIBRATION FREE - There is no mirror slap to create vibration.
Also, a leaf shutter vibrates less than a focal plane shutter. The
result is that you can take a photo at slow shutter speeds with
less blurring then with IDSLRs.

QUIET - The E-10 is quieter than IDSLRS as it does not have a
mirror slapping when you take a photo. This is a real advantage
when taking photos where there is a desire for quiet (e.g.
theaters, ceremonies, etc).

MULTI ANGLE LCD PREVIEW - This makes it much easier to take candid
photos of people. You can hold the E-10 at waist level and appear
to be fiddling with it and take a picture without the subject
knowing. The quietness of the E-10 is also a help. The LCD can
make it much easier to take photos from a low position or holding
the camera over your head. To have a multi angle LCD with preview
on an SLR is a real bonus. It can also help in composing your
photo as you see a miniature of your photo with two eyes.

PORTABLE QUALITY - The E-10 is a beautifully built camera with
superb ergonomics. Although, it is no lightweight when you
consider its wonderful build quality, fast F2:2.4 zoom lens and
built in flash it is quite light. I pack mine on my belt in a
holster camera bag. I can’t compare the ergonomics to the IDSLRs
as I have not used them. However, I have owned numerous 35mm SLRs
(including a Canon EOS1) and medium format cameras (Hasselblad,
Pentax 645) and the E-10 has the best ergonomics of any camera I
have owned.

LENSES - Where else can you get a sharp f2-2.4 35 to 140 zoom lens.
Where else can you buy extra lenses for about $1000 which will give
you a range from 28mm to 600mm at f2 to f2.8 .

PIXEL MAPPING - If you get a stuck pixel you don’t have to send it
in for repair. Just run pixel mapping.

Frank B
I agree too. I was mulling over whether or not selling and going to
the D60. I think I'm going to keep mine and continue to enjoy it.
Then I'll wait and see what Oly has to offer in the way of a true
upgrade.
 
Hi Jono,

You had me worried for a minute! If I could justify two cameras I would have a D1x or 1d too. Maybe I can rationalize it. However, I probably would become schizophrenic trying to decide which camera to take with me.

Anyway, isn't what you did called bigamy.:).

Frank B
Having just bought a D1X, I feel it's incumbent on me to start a
flame war here by answering your post. So, here goes.
I own an E-10 and take mostly scenic and still photos in relatively
decent light.. Therefore, the somewhat slow write times and low
light focusing issues are simply not a problem for me. After,
considering the purchase of an interchangeable lens digital SLR
(IDSLR) I’m pretty sure I will keep my E-10 and not buy a Canon 1D,
Canon D60, Fuji S2, Nikon D1x, Sigma or Nikon D100. Following are
my reasons which apply to the E-20 as well :

DUST - I have had my E-10 for more than a year and there is no sign
of dust on the CCD. I do not want a camera where I have to worry
each time I clean the dust that I might damage the CCD or color
filter. Despite protestations to the contrary by some owners of
IDSLRs there are numerous posts on each IDSLR forum citing
problems with dust. Maybe, Sigma has licked this problem, we will
see.
Absolutely right - I'm having nightmares already.
LEAF SHUTTER - The leaf shutter allows a flash synch speed of up
to 1/640 of a second with the built in flash. This means you can
use fill in flash at higher shutter speeds with the built in flash.
Also, it contributes to the dust free nature of the E-10, as high
speed focal plane shutters create dust.
Completely right - and in 18 months use of the e10 I never once
found that 1/640th was not enough
DEPTH OF FIELD - The depth of field of the E-10 is about 2.6 times
that of a IDSLR. This means that at the same 35mm focal length
equivalent and the same aperture you always will get considerably
more depth of field with the E-10. Thus for a given depth of field
you can use a larger aperture with the E-10 and therefore a faster
shutter speed to avoid blurring due to camera shake. F5.6 on the
E-10 has approximately the same depth of field as a 35mm at f22. A
typical IDSLR at f5.6 would have approximately the same depth of
field as a 35mm at f10. Even at f2 the E-10 has approximately the
same depth of field as a 35mm at f8. Depth of field is not
something you can manufacture with image software. You can use
image software to blur portions of a photo when that result is
desired.
Even more important - this is a serious issue, and for still life
and macro photography in particular it's a huge advantage.
VIBRATION FREE - There is no mirror slap to create vibration.
Also, a leaf shutter vibrates less than a focal plane shutter. The
result is that you can take a photo at slow shutter speeds with
less blurring then with IDSLRs.
How can I disagree
QUIET - The E-10 is quieter than IDSLRS as it does not have a
mirror slapping when you take a photo. This is a real advantage
when taking photos where there is a desire for quiet (e.g.
theaters, ceremonies, etc).
Many have spent a fortune on Leica rangefinder cameras, simply for
the quietness - the E10 is considerably quiter (as long as you turn
off that damned beep).
MULTI ANGLE LCD PREVIEW - This makes it much easier to take candid
photos of people. You can hold the E-10 at waist level and appear
to be fiddling with it and take a picture without the subject
knowing. The quietness of the E-10 is also a help. The LCD can
make it much easier to take photos from a low position or holding
the camera over your head. To have a multi angle LCD with preview
on an SLR is a real bonus. It can also help in composing your
photo as you see a miniature of your photo with two eyes.
Didn't use it much as the quietness served the same purpose, but
it's certainly usefull for taking very low angled shots of things
without lying on the ground.
PORTABLE QUALITY - The E-10 is a beautifully built camera with
superb ergonomics. Although, it is no lightweight when you
consider its wonderful build quality, fast F2:2.4 zoom lens and
built in flash it is quite light. I pack mine on my belt in a
holster camera bag. I can’t compare the ergonomics to the IDSLRs
as I have not used them. However, I have owned numerous 35mm SLRs
(including a Canon EOS1) and medium format cameras (Hasselblad,
Pentax 645) and the E-10 has the best ergonomics of any camera I
have owned.
Couldn't agree more - the ergonomics are great
LENSES - Where else can you get a sharp f2-2.4 35 to 140 zoom lens.
Where else can you buy extra lenses for about $1000 which will give
you a range from 28mm to 600mm at f2 to f2.8 .
Never could get on with the tele-converters as I like to zoom, but
the standard lense itself and the Wcon are both great.
PIXEL MAPPING - If you get a stuck pixel you don’t have to send it
in for repair. Just run pixel mapping.
As you say!

Huh - not much of a flamer. I have reasons for my D1X, but as I've
said before, I'll certainly be keeping my E10

kind regards
jono slack
--
Jono Slack
http://www.slack.co.uk
 
Beth,

Note I did not pan any camera, just listed the reasons why I'm keeping my E-10. Jono is also keeping his.

I agree with your comments on the D1x, however, I would point out that the E-10 also has the feel of quality and takes beautiful (although not noise free) photos. Also, I find the E-10 noise pretty easy to eliminate without significant degradation to the photo, although I would still prefer to have relatively noise free photos like the D1x to begin with.

Frank B
Beth wrote:

I read your subject, Jono, and wondered what you'd be posting.
Thought maybe you'd post one of your new D1X rooster/chicken shots
and say, "That's why." But as always the consummate gentleman, Jono
comes through making us all wonder why he EVER bought a D1X. Well,
let me tell you. Here are a couple reasons I can think might
explain it...

No wait time for the camera to turn on and wake up.
Fast shooting with no wait time for shots to write to the media.
The feel of quality.
Beautiful, noise-free photos.

What did I leave out, Jono?

These are just a few I read on the Nikon forum. It isn't healthy to
venture over there. The more you know, the more tempting it gets.
But NO, I can't afford it! "Maybe my coworkers will buy me one as a
retirement present," I think loudly. Ya, RIGHT!!

Did I take the bait well enough?

--
Olympus E-10, TCON, MCON, WCON and Fl-40
Gallery: http://www.pbase.com/galleries/cokids
 
Hi Jono,

i have to agree ... i most certainly will be buying a new (probably nikon-based) body this year (unless i switch to contax and will have to rethink my work completely) ... but this does not mean that i am going to part with my E-10 ... in most cases i even will not need the extra resolution (after all 6MP is not that much more than 4MP even if you take the noise issue in consideration) however i am in constant need for higher ISO. and although i use the 320 on E-10 quite often i would need at least 800 ... even if it would be as noisy as the 320 on the E-10.

D1x is an excellent body, i rent it out now and then, but we will see what comes soon. i like the F100 body i call my own .. if the D100 will be of a comparable build i will be happy. i am still not thrilled about the FOV-multiplier, but guess that i will have to come to terms with it, since contax does not have real wide angles either :-(



well ... i love my E-10 :-)

cheers

veniamin kostitsin
http://www.digitalimage.at/
 
Dear Beth

Absolutely - you're right - but what a prat I am to put such titles to messages :-)

Didn't Frank write a good post - I thought so.

The only reason you missed is that I REALLY wanted a wide angle lens. But I've said it before, and if Nikon don't come up with matched lenses - and the OLYDAK is all it should be - I can come back again without losing too much money.

It is actually nice to have free range with the ISO values as well.

It's lovely - but hell - it certainly ought to be lovely - you can get 3 E10s including a lens for the price of a D1X - it certainly ought to have something going for it!

It's nice not to have the noise - but as you could only ever see it on screen - really it isn't that big a deal!

Enjoy your E10, and don't get too itchy - keep saying to yourself "depth of field, depth of field, depth of field"

:-)
Beth wrote:

I read your subject, Jono, and wondered what you'd be posting.
Thought maybe you'd post one of your new D1X rooster/chicken shots
and say, "That's why." But as always the consummate gentleman, Jono
comes through making us all wonder why he EVER bought a D1X. Well,
let me tell you. Here are a couple reasons I can think might
explain it...

No wait time for the camera to turn on and wake up.
Fast shooting with no wait time for shots to write to the media.
The feel of quality.
Beautiful, noise-free photos.

What did I leave out, Jono?

These are just a few I read on the Nikon forum. It isn't healthy to
venture over there. The more you know, the more tempting it gets.
But NO, I can't afford it! "Maybe my coworkers will buy me one as a
retirement present," I think loudly. Ya, RIGHT!!

Did I take the bait well enough?

--
Olympus E-10, TCON, MCON, WCON and Fl-40
Gallery: http://www.pbase.com/galleries/cokids
--Jono Slack http://www.slack.co.uk
 
Veniamin,

What a beautiful photo! The exposure and light are just wonderful.

Frank B
Hi Jono,

i have to agree ... i most certainly will be buying a new (probably
nikon-based) body this year (unless i switch to contax and will
have to rethink my work completely) ... but this does not mean that
i am going to part with my E-10 ... in most cases i even will not
need the extra resolution (after all 6MP is not that much more than
4MP even if you take the noise issue in consideration) however i am
in constant need for higher ISO. and although i use the 320 on E-10
quite often i would need at least 800 ... even if it would be as
noisy as the 320 on the E-10.

D1x is an excellent body, i rent it out now and then, but we will
see what comes soon. i like the F100 body i call my own .. if the
D100 will be of a comparable build i will be happy. i am still not
thrilled about the FOV-multiplier, but guess that i will have to
come to terms with it, since contax does not have real wide angles
either :-(



well ... i love my E-10 :-)

cheers

veniamin kostitsin
http://www.digitalimage.at/
 
Hi Frank

I thought your post excellent - you put it better than I could have done - and you're absolutely right.

There are nice things about the D1X, but there damned well should be - you can get 3 E10s for the same price - and they have lenses!

I've never found noise too much of a problem anyway - so it wasn't really for image quality, it was mostly due to workflow issues, and because I really did want a reasonably wide angle lens, and I was fed up waiting. But if the OLYDAK is what it should be I'll probably be back again!

The E10 definitely stays - for the depth of field reasons you put so eloquently, and also for convenience.

But it ain't bigamy . . . . . . . . it's trigamy - I have an E100 as well, and that certainly has it's place around here, although Saul is now referring to it as 'my camera' :-)

keep up the good press for the wonderful E10

kind regards
jono slack
You had me worried for a minute! If I could justify two cameras I
would have a D1x or 1d too. Maybe I can rationalize it. However,
I probably would become schizophrenic trying to decide which camera
to take with me.

Anyway, isn't what you did called bigamy.:).

Frank B
snip (it was too long)--Jono Slack http://www.slack.co.uk
 
Hi Veniamin

Lovely shot - the ISO was an issue with me as well.

I don't know what the D100 will be like, but I looked at an F80, and it just didn't 'do that thing' for me!

I've given up on the Contax - over here it was going to be twice as expensive as the D1X, and then the lenses cost a bomb as well.

Joe Hoddinot pointed out to me that the sensor size in all the Nikon D cameras is the same, so they could easily produce matched lenses if they wanted to - there must be a market for a couple of wide angle zooms?

the real clincher was reading a couple of good reviews of the Sigma 15-30 - it's not much of a range, but at least it really is wide angle.

It wasn't for image quality - it's nice not having the noise on screen, but it never caused me any difficulty in prints, so what the hell.

I thought Frank's post was really good.

keep 'em coming!

kind regards
jono slack
Hi Jono,

i have to agree ... i most certainly will be buying a new (probably
nikon-based) body this year (unless i switch to contax and will
have to rethink my work completely) ... but this does not mean that
i am going to part with my E-10 ... in most cases i even will not
need the extra resolution (after all 6MP is not that much more than
4MP even if you take the noise issue in consideration) however i am
in constant need for higher ISO. and although i use the 320 on E-10
quite often i would need at least 800 ... even if it would be as
noisy as the 320 on the E-10.

D1x is an excellent body, i rent it out now and then, but we will
see what comes soon. i like the F100 body i call my own .. if the
D100 will be of a comparable build i will be happy. i am still not
thrilled about the FOV-multiplier, but guess that i will have to
come to terms with it, since contax does not have real wide angles
either :-(



well ... i love my E-10 :-)

cheers

veniamin kostitsin
http://www.digitalimage.at/
--Jono Slack http://www.slack.co.uk
 
Hi Jono
Hi Veniamin

Lovely shot - the ISO was an issue with me as well.
well ... iso is THE issue . i tend to work under very dim light quite often lately - and flash is not always an option. I am not extatic about the F80 myself, but i really like the F100 :-(
I don't know what the D100 will be like, but I looked at an F80,
and it just didn't 'do that thing' for me!

I've given up on the Contax - over here it was going to be twice as
expensive as the D1X, and then the lenses cost a bomb as well.
since the prices in austria are a nightmare in general ( the street price for Canon 1D is around 8000 euros ) i don't even want to know how much they will charge for the contax when it arrives. yashica representative told me to expect it in austria in mid-april. i am sceptical though. and the price issue is not the last thing to consider.
Joe Hoddinot pointed out to me that the sensor size in all the
Nikon D cameras is the same, so they could easily produce matched
lenses if they wanted to - there must be a market for a couple of
wide angle zooms?
i've read his post on the issue - and it seems plausible indeed.
the real clincher was reading a couple of good reviews of the Sigma
15-30 - it's not much of a range, but at least it really is wide
angle.

It wasn't for image quality - it's nice not having the noise on
screen, but it never caused me any difficulty in prints, so what
the hell.
same here . but iso 320 could be cleaner ;-) and if i am lusting after 800 or even 1600 (and i am !) then it gets touchy. otherwise i am very happy with the studio performance E-10 gives me
I thought Frank's post was really good.

keep 'em coming!
ok ....


kind regards
jono slack
cheers

veniamin kostitsin
http://www.digitalimage.at/
 
I just thoughti t was in place for the St. Patrick's ... it is from my "second living room" in vienna . comes highly reccomended : Molly Darcy's Irish Pub . ;-)

cheers (or rather slainte)

veniamin kostitsin
http://www.digitalimage.at/
What a beautiful photo! The exposure and light are just wonderful.

Frank B
Hi Jono,

i have to agree ... i most certainly will be buying a new (probably
nikon-based) body this year (unless i switch to contax and will
have to rethink my work completely) ... but this does not mean that
i am going to part with my E-10 ... in most cases i even will not
need the extra resolution (after all 6MP is not that much more than
4MP even if you take the noise issue in consideration) however i am
in constant need for higher ISO. and although i use the 320 on E-10
quite often i would need at least 800 ... even if it would be as
noisy as the 320 on the E-10.

D1x is an excellent body, i rent it out now and then, but we will
see what comes soon. i like the F100 body i call my own .. if the
D100 will be of a comparable build i will be happy. i am still not
thrilled about the FOV-multiplier, but guess that i will have to
come to terms with it, since contax does not have real wide angles
either :-(



well ... i love my E-10 :-)

cheers

veniamin kostitsin
http://www.digitalimage.at/
 

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