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I atempteded to clean my EOS 5D's sensor today and read te instructions on VISIBLE DUST web site thoroughly before I tried to do so. I am fairly handy with things, recently I managed to upgrade my EPSON P2000 with an 80gb hard drive and I managed to do that without touching its screeen at all, so, if you guys know what I am talking about, you'll understan that I am no idiot when precise handiwork is about.

My brush is brand new, I removed the protective sticker from the box and charged the brush and did ONE swipe, as per instructions.
Look what I ended up with:



Yes, this is the picture of my sensor! And Yes, i have an important shoot tomorrow!

because od tis, I am making it my mission to give Visible S* t as bad advertising as possible!
Please take this seriously and don't buy their product!

Alex
 
Not sure what's up with that, but I've been using the product since it came out, have cleaned at least 6 different cameras over the years, many many many times (including current 5D and 1D's) with nothing but BEAUTIFUL results.

I don't even check it any more after cleaning.

Something else going on with this deal............

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Sal Sessa / Dallas, TX USA
http://www.salsessa.com
 
Maybe you let the brush touched some part of the mirror chamber where there is a lot of lubricant. It's a know problem with the brushing method.

Anyway, if you still think this is the best product ever produced, save some money, you can get this type of nylon brush from any artist store. Don't get ripped off by Visible Dust.
 
Actually, the brushes they use are cheaper. I'm not kidding. These are made in China and probably don't cost more than $1-$2 max in qunatitiy.

I can't stand that company and don't try to hide it. Politely speaking, they sell a product that won't hurt your sensor and may even clean it (unlike this case) but in reality they are no different from the old "Snake Oil" salesmen of old selling alcohol as medicine. Again, the product doesn't hurt, but you can buy the same thing for a fraction of the price.

For any of you that have fallen for their marketing, remember that a basketball, soccer ball, volley ball, etc. are all "hyperbaric chambers". The "unpainted" surface is not to prevent static, it's to reduce the cost of the brush. These guys suck.

I can't wait until people actually learn how baddly they've been screwed by the company. They're nothing more than con men making a fortune off "uninformed" people, of which there is no shortage.
dchao said:
Maybe you let the brush touched some part of the mirror chamber
where there is a lot of lubricant. It's a know problem with the
brushing method.

Anyway, if you still think this is the best product ever produced,
save some money, you can get this type of nylon brush from any
artist store. Don't get ripped off by Visible Dust.
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I actually had the same exact problem the first time I cleaned my 5D with a brush except I had about twice as much lubricant as you are showing. It took about 15 pecpads on a wand to get it all off. It was quite a challange and a little scarry to do, but in the end my sensor was clean of the stuff.

I think the next time I use the brush on my 5D I will try not to let the brissels go off of the sensor side and pick up grease that may be below. I never had a problem using the same brush with my 10D.

Please check out http://www.bobestrin.com/cleansensor for an article I wrote on not only cleaning your sensors but helpful hints on how to keep it cleaner in-between cleanings.

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Bob

http://www.bobestrin.com
 
Jim F. said:
I can't stand that company and don't try to hide it. Politely
speaking, they sell a product that won't hurt your sensor and may
even clean it (unlike this case) but in reality they are no
different from the old "Snake Oil" salesmen of old selling alcohol
as medicine. Again, the product doesn't hurt, but you can buy the
same thing for a fraction of the price.
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Amen! I can't believe people would pay the prices they're asking for those things! (Holy carp, $100!? Forgot how much those things were ROFL) Insane. I picked up a couple LensPens/Senso Klears and used them on all my lenses, my 10D sensor and my 5D sensor and they worked GREAT! It took quite a few tries to get the sensor PERFECT but I did eventually achieve a perfectly clean sensor (well, within reason). Give'em a shot sometime.

http://www.lenspen.com/

No affiliation with them, just a happy customer.

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Chris A. Epler - K4UNX
 
You got it right!
The 5D's chamber apparently is loaded with some kind of lubricant.
This same thing happened to me to a lesser extent.
This stuff is difficult to remove, but it can be done.

It will take several Sensor Swabs and Eclipse fluid. One or two drops--max-on the swab. Swab in one direction, flip swab and swab in the other. Follow with new dry Sensor Swab. Re-check.
Plan on spending an hour or two getting it clean.
Then, get a SensorKlear from Lens Pen and use as directed.
No more problems.
Tom
dchao said:
Maybe you let the brush touched some part of the mirror chamber
where there is a lot of lubricant. It's a know problem with the
brushing method.
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(See equipment list under 'profile')
 
As said, the 5D is fundamentally different from other cameras: I have had no problem with sensor pads on my 300D, 350D, D70, and 20D. The 5D is a nightmare.
 
Chris Epler said:
Insane. I picked up a couple LensPens/Senso Klears and
used them on all my lenses, my 10D sensor and my 5D sensor and they
worked GREAT! It took quite a few tries to get the sensor PERFECT
but I did eventually achieve a perfectly clean sensor (well, within
reason). Give'em a shot sometime.

http://www.lenspen.com/

No affiliation with them, just a happy customer.

--
Chris A. Epler - K4UNX
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Do directions come with the Sensorclears? I remember threads about them being sold by one of the wildlife photographers--and he had extensive info about them--maybe about cleaning the Sensorclear itself. I have all the Copperhill stuff--but it would be nice to carry something like this when traveling. I have one for my lenses---but I would not use it on my sensor since its been used quite a bit. Also--are the Sensorclears 'shaped' to get into the corners?

Diane
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Diane B
http://www.pbase.com/picnic/galleries
 
The 5D is a nightmare.

Sorry to hear anyone with problems.

Wonder why, though?

If you follow the directions as indicated there should be none, no?

I've had the 5D (2 actually) from day one, and have cleaned it many times. Oddly enough using the brush I bought for a D1X way back when. No problems at all after MANY cleanings.

How (so I can avoide it) do you run into the problem? Hitting areas other than the sensor and then dragging the junk back on?

If so, wouldn't a bit more care solve the problem? Not pointing fingers, just looking to understand why anyone would run into a prblem.

SAS
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Sal Sessa / Dallas, TX USA
http://www.salsessa.com
 
This is probably because of the big size of the sensor reaching the corners of the chamber. The small sensors do not have this risk as they are far away from the chamber edges. Just my 2c
 
You're exactly correct.

The trick with the 5D--if you want to use a brush which I find ineffective--is to make very sure it is a small one and that you take extreme care that it touches nothing but the sensor/AA filter.

It is much easier to inadvertently let the larger brush bristles come in contact with the gunk in the chamber and spread it over your sensor.
Tom
thegiampi said:
This is probably because of the big size of the sensor reaching the
corners of the chamber. The small sensors do not have this risk as
they are far away from the chamber edges. Just my 2c
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(See equipment list under 'profile')
 
If that mess is mirror mechanism lube (which it is!!), you are bad-mouthing Visible Dust for nothing!!

Every single one of my -1 series cameras had goo on the sensor that required one or two "wet cleanings". Since then, I use plain old sterile swabs (glorified one-ended Q-tips) and a blower.

Because you haven't figured this out yet, I reserve judgement on your ability to perform tasks!! ;-}

Ken

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I don't believe in fate, but I do believe in f/8! And while your at it, don't be afraid to vote Libertarian, for REAL freedom!
 
Yes, instructions (simple as they are) come with the SensorKlear.
Best to use the Rocket Blower before and after the SensorKlear.

There appears to be no problem with many uses of the product before replacement is necessary. It is designed for many applications.
Tom
Diane B said:
Diane B said:
Diane B said:
Chris A. Epler - K4UNX
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Do directions come with the Sensorclears? I remember threads about
them being sold by one of the wildlife photographers--and he had
extensive info about them--maybe about cleaning the Sensorclear
itself. I have all the Copperhill stuff--but it would be nice to
carry something like this when traveling. I have one for my
lenses---but I would not use it on my sensor since its been used
quite a bit. Also--are the Sensorclears 'shaped' to get into the
corners?

Diane
--
Diane B
http://www.pbase.com/picnic/galleries
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(See equipment list under 'profile')
 
I've had such an experience with brushes the first time I used them as well. Not that extreme though, but it still cost me a few pecpads/sensor swabs to clean it.

Read here:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1032&thread=18989265&page=1

Since then I'm only cleaning my 5D sensor with the bought sensor brushes (2 pieces for only $13 ;) ). It's quick and easy, as long as you know that you need to touch the AA filter only to avoid smears.
 
Exactly right.

The chamber fits sooo snugly around the sensor that you cannot touch the whole sensor without at least SOMEWHAT touching the chamber too - and that drags grease, dust and whatever else in on hte chamber sides onto the sensor.

Michael
 
Lol are you kidding me? There's enough space in the 5D chamber to put a small brush (made for APS-C sized sensors!) onto the sensor without touching anything else. If you're not even able to do that, than you might need to calm down to prevent so much hand shake. (No offense intended to people who might have Parkinson). But it's laughable that someone states that you can't direct a small brush onto a 2x as big sensor, with the reason that "there isn't enough space". With the ease of these cheapo brushes I do that weekly.
mwillems said:
mwillems wrote:
Exactly right.

The chamber fits sooo snugly around the sensor that you cannot
touch the whole sensor without at least SOMEWHAT touching the
chamber too - and that drags grease, dust and whatever else in on
hte chamber sides onto the sensor.

Michael
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...I do not have Parkinson's and yet, due to the lack of space next to the sensor, I have trouble cleaning it without either touching the chamber, of missing the outer edges of the sensor.

And yes I have good eyes and yes I am perfectly OK cleaning the 300D, 350D, D70, and 20D - done that for years.

Michael
 
Ok. Perhaps you can get someone to clean it for you? Or you might want to try from cleaning from the middle to the edges, instead of sweeping from left to right. That might be an easier way to avoid touching the sides.
 
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