My D70 is working just fine--Why do I want the D80

You choose what size you need at any given moment, but you have the
option of going 10 MP when you need to.
I shoot nothing but RAW. If I knew the D80 would get WB correct most of the time, I might consider shooting JPEGs. Shame you couldn't pick different RAW size.
I've got the feeling that when people go to their camera store and
check out the D80, the D70 will be harder to pick up again. For
backup, you're better off with the D50 since it also uses SD cards.
I have axcess to the D50, which I do use for a backup, but mostly shoot ISO 1000-1250 which you can't do with the D50. I know the D50 1600 is the cleanest, but not as clean and sharp as the D70 at 1000. Plus, the D50 dosen't offer what the D80 has.

Thanks,

Mark
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If you shoot sports and the images are important to you, then the
D80 will be a much better tool to use. The difference between the
CAM-900 and CAM-1000 AF systems is huge.
I'm a church event photographer, so I mostly do indoor shooting. That's why noise output is very important to me. Even though I have SB-800, hardly ever use it indoors while photographing a church service or concert in the church. And the CAM-1000 is one of the big reasons why I want this camera.
And no, you cannot crop all of your shots as you shoot, since we
ALL never have the perfect lens for every situation. 10 megapixels
makes that a little easier.

I keep my D70 as a backup to my D200, but I can say that the AF and
increased resolution are worth it.
I agree about the AF, but not sure about the resolution. When I crop my images that been shoot at ISO 800 or higher, I seen noise before I ever see pixels. So I keep cropping to a minimum. So in this case, resolution may not benefit me any. But won't know until I try one.

Thanks,

Mark
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You will want to use NX regardless, it is VASTLY superior to NC.
In fact, in many ways it beats PS in power and flexibility.

For the $89 upgrade price, it is an absolute bargain.
I'm sure your right, but it still ticks me off that I can't use NC. Just another added expense when buying the D80.

Mark

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Hi Brian,

Looking at your equipment list, I think you could better spend the money on an 80-200 2.8 and sell the 70-300. If you use the 70-300 much, you will be amazed how much better the 2.8 is. You can get one new with a 5 year warranty for less than a new D80. Nikon's history with newly released cameras hasn't been too enviable lately, and you would immediately see a dramatic improvement. Let other people be the beta testers for the D80 and get yourself a proven classic.
Jim
Friends,

I got the call today from the camerashop. My D80 has come in, if I
want it. I'm first on the list.

Honestly, I can't figure out why I need it. 10MP, so what..6MP
makes a great 13x19. Why do I need more? Croping? Please, I crop
when I take the shot.

Please tell me why I should upgrade. Don't give me a long list of
new features. Call me basic, but the D70 is great. How will the
D70 help me take a better picture?

Thanks

Brian
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Nikon D70 w/18-70
Nikon 50mm f/1.8
Sigma 70-300mm f/4-5.6 APO DG Macro
Nikon SB-800 Flash
Sony P200 (for my pocket)
Canon i9900 printer
WhiBal grey card - Don't shoot NEF/RAW without one!
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I just downloaded a D80 NEF and was able to open and edit it using UFRaw and the Gimp, and that software cost nothing.
Jim
You will want to use NX regardless, it is VASTLY superior to NC.
In fact, in many ways it beats PS in power and flexibility.

For the $89 upgrade price, it is an absolute bargain.
I'm sure your right, but it still ticks me off that I can't use NC.
Just another added expense when buying the D80.

Mark

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Church Event Photographer

Full time auto tech, part time photographer. Just wished it were
the other way around. Mark Thompson/MTT
Louisville, KY. USA

http://mtt.smugmug.com/
 
If you love the pictures your D70 takes then why change anything? We live in such a disposable world. They are constantly changing things to make them "bigger and badder". shaking head

Honestly, I lived with my old Minolta film SLR for a long time. EVeryone was going digitial, yet they couldn't produce the resolution of the clarity that I still had with my film. Finally I bit the bullet and bought the D70s a few months ago. I have to say I love it! But... it will be with me for years to come (willing). It takes beautiful pictures and I couldn't ask for more. I have no need to have bigger and better.

Hope you make a decision that works for you! And have fun.
 
I just downloaded a D80 NEF and was able to open and edit it using
UFRaw and the Gimp, and that software cost nothing.
Can I have the link to the D80 file and UFRaw and the Gimp. Never heard of the software.

Mark
Jim
You will want to use NX regardless, it is VASTLY superior to NC.
In fact, in many ways it beats PS in power and flexibility.

For the $89 upgrade price, it is an absolute bargain.
I'm sure your right, but it still ticks me off that I can't use NC.
Just another added expense when buying the D80.

Mark

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Church Event Photographer

Full time auto tech, part time photographer. Just wished it were
the other way around. Mark Thompson/MTT
Louisville, KY. USA

http://mtt.smugmug.com/
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Church Event Photographer

Full time auto tech, part time photographer. Just wished it were the other way around. Mark Thompson/MTT
Louisville, KY. USA

http://mtt.smugmug.com/
 
why do people feel the need to let everyone know that they won't upgrade their camera? First of all, Nikon is primarily interested in consumers WITHOUT D70s, and 2nd Nikon knows that if people are insecure enough to justify to the world why they should keep their camera then they are also insecure enought to eventually make that upgrade.
 
D70 not very accurate with skin tones.

Mark
The D200 and the D80 Share most of the D2x processing engine, and
therefore the camera produces more accurate colors, especially in
skintones. I've seen Great skin tones on the D70 but they are far
and few in between and I see immaculate skin tones on the D200, the
D2X and the best skin tones of any nikon I've seen is on a 4
megapixel D2Hs. Just a personal preference. I'm Not saying that the
D70 isn't capable of getting great skin tones, it's just that it
seems much more difficult to do so on the D70. (perhaps due to the
fact that it's sensitive to UV?) I don't know, I'm rambling here.
The D70 is a fine cam though, and I think your decision to keep it
is a smart one. kudos mate.
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I am not very technical but the idea of cramming more pixels into a sensor that is basically the same size makes me feel 'nervous'. It boils down to cramming even more technology into smaller spaces... perhaps a receipe for future dead pixels after much use? No, it will take something very special for me to want to upgrade from my beloved D70s and 4 extra megapixels is not going to be it. If I felt compelled to spend big bucks on upgrading I would be more inclined to look out for a larger sensor rather than more pixels. But then, whenever I use the D70s and see the results any lust I might harbour for upgrades disappears completely.
 
Hi Mark,

I downloaded a NEF that was posted yesterday that was taken out of someone's apartment window in Taiwan. I can't find the thread now. If you can't find a NEF to download I can upload it to my ftp server later and send you an email with the link.

The Gimp is an open-source graphics program that uses UFRaw as a raw handler. Now it has been ported to Windows and should not be too hard to set up. I have been using it for years in Linux. The easiest place to look is Gimp.org. Downloads are here:
http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/stable.html .
Jim
I just downloaded a D80 NEF and was able to open and edit it using
UFRaw and the Gimp, and that software cost nothing.
Can I have the link to the D80 file and UFRaw and the Gimp. Never
heard of the software.

Mark
Jim
You will want to use NX regardless, it is VASTLY superior to NC.
In fact, in many ways it beats PS in power and flexibility.

For the $89 upgrade price, it is an absolute bargain.
I'm sure your right, but it still ticks me off that I can't use NC.
Just another added expense when buying the D80.

Mark

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Church Event Photographer

Full time auto tech, part time photographer. Just wished it were
the other way around. Mark Thompson/MTT
Louisville, KY. USA

http://mtt.smugmug.com/
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Church Event Photographer

Full time auto tech, part time photographer. Just wished it were
the other way around. Mark Thompson/MTT
Louisville, KY. USA

http://mtt.smugmug.com/
 
BrianSF wrote:
[snip]
Honestly, I can't figure out why I need it. 10MP, so what..6MP
makes a great 13x19. Why do I need more? Croping? Please, I crop
when I take the shot.

Please tell me why I should upgrade. Don't give me a long list of
new features. Call me basic, but the D70 is great. How will the
D70 help me take a better picture?
You KNOW the specs of the D70 and D80 so make up your own mind. I would like to point out, though, that if all we photographers cared about was image quality, then how could camera makers keep selling new models of film SLRs every few years? I mean, they all used the same film and lenses (I'm speaking of different models by the same manufacturer). There is obviously more to choosing a camera than simply the end result.

larsbc
 
Download and try the free trial. I think you may be pleasantly surprised.

I did the four part video tutorial from Nikon for NX, and most of the time my jaw was on the floor.
 
Greg,

If the D80 does focus faster then the D70 I might make the switch. The larger screen size and 10mb is just an added bonus. If the D80 is a much better sports camera (with my 70-200VR) I will look into getting one. I wonder how the D50 feels with the 70-200VR, isn't the D80 the same size as the D80?
If you shoot sports and the images are important to you, then the
D80 will be a much better tool to use. The difference between the
CAM-900 and CAM-1000 AF systems is huge.

And no, you cannot crop all of your shots as you shoot, since we
ALL never have the perfect lens for every situation. 10 megapixels
makes that a little easier.

I keep my D70 as a backup to my D200, but I can say that the AF and
increased resolution are worth it.
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I shoot a lot at ISO1600, I am not sure the D200 would be my best choice. I am speeking only from reviews, I have not tried one myself.
SlipKid wrote:
My D70 works great for me, I take mostly sports shots using the
70-200VR. Will the D80 focus faster then my D70? The larger image
size will help with croping images, but how much. Maybe its just a
case of camers lust, I think I might wait a few years for the next
great thing.

Regards
Steve
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Hi Mark,
I downloaded a NEF that was posted yesterday that was taken out of
someone's apartment window in Taiwan. I can't find the thread now.
If you can't find a NEF to download I can upload it to my ftp
server later and send you an email with the link.
That's OK, I just use a D70 NEF file when I play around with UFRaw. No rush, I won't consider buying the D80 until after the reviews. If noise is not any better then the D200, then I might buy the D200 instead.
The Gimp is an open-source graphics program that uses UFRaw as a
raw handler. Now it has been ported to Windows and should not be
too hard to set up. I have been using it for years in Linux. The
easiest place to look is Gimp.org. Downloads are here:
http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/stable.html .
Thanks Jim, I will check into it.

Mark
 
Download and try the free trial. I think you may be pleasantly
surprised.
I do that and find out for myself if it worth buying.
I did the four part video tutorial from Nikon for NX, and most of
the time my jaw was on the floor.
I will watch it & hopefully I will be just as impressed with it as you were.

Thanks for your input,

Mark

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