alonewolf85
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just got my 828 and im sending it back tommorrow, this cam is terrible
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828 and purple
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David_S85
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How many shots did you get off to determine that?
Did you take any outdoor pics?
PF under what conditions?
Flash only or with ambient light?
Ambient light onlt PF?
Am I asking too many questions?
Did you take any outdoor pics?
PF under what conditions?
Flash only or with ambient light?
Ambient light onlt PF?
Am I asking too many questions?
- David
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alonewolf85
Senior Member
I started with point and shoot indoors and that was enough to tell me somthing is not right in that cam, Im not going to wate my time trying to shoot around conditions due to a faulty design, hopefully sony will fix this problem, it should have never been in the first place, the purple in the pics is discusting
Did you take any outdoor pics?
PF under what conditions?
Flash only or with ambient light?
Ambient light onlt PF?
Am I asking too many questions?
- David
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David_S85
Senior Member
As it is right now, I'm not liking what I see with it (828) either, but then, I am not rushing to grab one off the shelf. April, May? I'll see what the people of STF and the reviewers make of it, and let some time go by. Perhaps in the next few weeks or months, a worthy competitor will poke its head out and trounce the 828, but I think they'll sell loads of the things anyway.
I'm not sure I would have made up my mind all that quickly. Some people are indeed getting very good results with the '8.
I haven't seen a whole lot of what I'd call 'zinger' images all in a row yet. In other words, if there's a sweet spot, nobody seems to have found it and shot off a dozen problem free shots in succession. But the cam is new, and when the 7's both arrived, many were posting some pretty disparaging things about them, too. Now, years later, they're still the cams to beat.
I don't know where all the pixel chasing is headed, but if all the other companies go 7-9MP this next year, as predicted, the 828 might very well be one of 2004's best sub-dSLR cam, even with its pointed out weaknesses. Who knows, really.
Yes, a dSLR will have better overall definition, + other nice qualities, and if you go that direction, then I'm sure you'll be happy. You'll have lots less money left over, but you'll have a good system, nevertheless.
I'd sure sleep on the decision, at least; or give it a few more days, but do what you must do.
Sorry it didn't work out for you.
I'm not sure I would have made up my mind all that quickly. Some people are indeed getting very good results with the '8.
I haven't seen a whole lot of what I'd call 'zinger' images all in a row yet. In other words, if there's a sweet spot, nobody seems to have found it and shot off a dozen problem free shots in succession. But the cam is new, and when the 7's both arrived, many were posting some pretty disparaging things about them, too. Now, years later, they're still the cams to beat.
I don't know where all the pixel chasing is headed, but if all the other companies go 7-9MP this next year, as predicted, the 828 might very well be one of 2004's best sub-dSLR cam, even with its pointed out weaknesses. Who knows, really.
Yes, a dSLR will have better overall definition, + other nice qualities, and if you go that direction, then I'm sure you'll be happy. You'll have lots less money left over, but you'll have a good system, nevertheless.
I'd sure sleep on the decision, at least; or give it a few more days, but do what you must do.
Sorry it didn't work out for you.
- David
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Richard91758
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It's pretty clear that you were going to return it before you even had a chance to open the box, correct me if I'm wrong.
Richard
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I cancelled my preorder for the 828 today based on the purple fringing that has been consistently evident in otherwise gorgeous images. I know people have different tolerances for this phenomenon; for me, no matter how great the F828's color and detail I cannot live with purple outlines that are visible in processed, normal-sized images. (I use my images for print and web so both outputs are relevant to me.)
Was there anything else you were not happy about or was it strictly PF?
Was there anything else you were not happy about or was it strictly PF?
Did you take any outdoor pics?
PF under what conditions?
Flash only or with ambient light?
Ambient light onlt PF?
Am I asking too many questions?
- David
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Paulo190851
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Alonewolf...
With all due respect to your right to post your opinions, I for one feel that you have overstepped your limits in the quantity of negative comments about purple fringing and ca in so many different posts. It seems that in every post I look there you are saying the same thing ad nauseum. Again with all due respect, we got your point, again and again. I sincerely hope that you get happy with another camera because it is patently obvious that you have lost all perspective. The point is to enjoy taking pictures. I really do not need a chicken little yelling the sky is falling at every opportunity and that is precisely what you appear to be doing. I understand your concerns, I get your point, send the camera back and watch the rest of us produce fantastic pictures with it that are very pleasing to us. Happy holidays...go hug a child, pet a dog, buy your significant other something really nice and take some pictures. Happy Holidays.
With all due respect to your right to post your opinions, I for one feel that you have overstepped your limits in the quantity of negative comments about purple fringing and ca in so many different posts. It seems that in every post I look there you are saying the same thing ad nauseum. Again with all due respect, we got your point, again and again. I sincerely hope that you get happy with another camera because it is patently obvious that you have lost all perspective. The point is to enjoy taking pictures. I really do not need a chicken little yelling the sky is falling at every opportunity and that is precisely what you appear to be doing. I understand your concerns, I get your point, send the camera back and watch the rest of us produce fantastic pictures with it that are very pleasing to us. Happy holidays...go hug a child, pet a dog, buy your significant other something really nice and take some pictures. Happy Holidays.
I want to get the best camera for the best price, so I have some time for a little while to see what else comes out on the market... whats all this talk about Cannon coming out with 25+ cameras in 2004?
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Avatar_Of_Hope
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I don't know anything about alonewolf, but I agree with your statement because people seem in more of a mood to do the finger pointing game than to really be objective about this camera all things considered. I mean everyone knows that the 828 has fringing problems, that there are some noise problems, and the sometimes it produces jaggies(or so I've heard). Fine! So the problem is there! I think it would be more constructive to find a solution or possible suggestions to Sony instead of reapeating the problems
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The whole point of problem solving is to solve the problem so please come up with come constructive solutions or suggestions and let's go from there.
Sincerely,
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over and over and over and over and over and over and over
(are you getting bored yet)
and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
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The whole point of problem solving is to solve the problem so please come up with come constructive solutions or suggestions and let's go from there.
Sincerely,
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Moti
Veteran Member
I also got the camera yesterday and I have a complete different oopinion about it. Although I have tried very hard, and I have many years of experience, I was not able to produce anoying purple as you describe.
Therefore, simpy I do not believe in your story because otherwise, you would have had posted some results. But you didn'nt because you probaby don't have any.
And if your story is true after all, then remember, there are no terrible cameras at this proce range. There are onlt terrible photographers and you are probably one of them.
Therefore, simpy I do not believe in your story because otherwise, you would have had posted some results. But you didn'nt because you probaby don't have any.
And if your story is true after all, then remember, there are no terrible cameras at this proce range. There are onlt terrible photographers and you are probably one of them.
Check his history.
All the posts to gain everyones confidence,
JUST
so he could pull the rug out from under the camera.
All the posts to gain everyones confidence,
JUST
so he could pull the rug out from under the camera.
Hendra
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ozziegn
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And yet another example of your typical STFer getting all pissy when someone does say anything postive about a Sony product.
Gee, imagine that...
Ozzie
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Greg Gebhardt
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--Did you take any outdoor pics?
PF under what conditions?
Flash only or with ambient light?
Ambient light onlt PF?
Am I asking too many questions?
- David
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We can only hope that your efforts will be now spent doing something else.
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Jacksonville, Florida
Greg Gebhardt
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Greg Gebhardt
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From what I have seen of the 60 or so 828 images I have taken, the images exceed my 717 and V1 images in detail and quality. In the next few weeks of learning, I expect them to get even better.
Greg Gebhardt in
Jacksonville, Florida
Darryl Cox
Well-known member
Ever since the f828 and it basic characteristics were announced there has been a barage of negativism. Some of it appears to be from the compitition (this is a major jump in product features) and some of from folks expecting too much. This is not calling anyone a troll but the wait and chats has caused a lot of expectations to be pretty high.
I had digital imaging equipment in my metals laboratory that did not produce as well as this new camera is doing.
I got my f828 the 19th and took it out and ran a card of shot of the nature I would normally do. I did macro in and out of the house. In other words I ran it through it's paces. I have no complaints what so ever other than I have to re-learn the buttons and controls.
Frankly I am as happy as punch...
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Darryl Cox
I had digital imaging equipment in my metals laboratory that did not produce as well as this new camera is doing.
I got my f828 the 19th and took it out and ran a card of shot of the nature I would normally do. I did macro in and out of the house. In other words I ran it through it's paces. I have no complaints what so ever other than I have to re-learn the buttons and controls.
Frankly I am as happy as punch...
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Darryl Cox
Darryl Cox
Well-known member
If I were not a cheapskate I would have paid more for the camera.....really!
I am more than pleased and look forward to have a good time with it!
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Darryl Cox
I am more than pleased and look forward to have a good time with it!
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Ron Parr
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Wow - you got the magic 828 that work's better than all of the ones used for reviews and sample images posted so far. Do you get to go to the factory for a special tour?
Hmmm... Every batch of shots we've seen posted so far has had PF. He says that his shots have it too, but yours don't despite your best efforts. Who is straining credibility here?
Well, it all depends upon how you define the price range and what you mean by terrible. In any case, your implication that bad results with a $1000 camera are necessarily the fault of the photographer in general and this guy in particular are inappropriate and rude.
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