Tamron 35 f/1.8 - low-light AF, tracking, VC

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It wasn't really detailed in my review, and several comments by others speculated the continuous tracking or low-light AF would be slower than its Nikon counterpart. In daylight, it is proven to be exactly as fast and has been tested by several independent sites.

Nikon 35 f/1.8G (FX)

http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Nikon_Nikkor_AF-S_35mm_f1-8G_ED/

"The lens focuses in around 0.5 sec from infinity to 35 cm, which is fast. The 35/1.4G does this in 0.7 sec."

Tamron 35 f/1.8 VC


http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Tamron_SP_35mm_f1-8_Di_VC_USD/

"The lens focuses in around 0.5 sec from infinity to 0.35m which is fast."

However, a key factor of such a fast lens is low-light performance, such as events, street photography, or other. At the request of a couple of users I took it to the sidewalk late last night to test all this. I also tested the VC handheld in low-light. In a nutshell, on a Nikon D750, it never hesitated, nor did it have issues with tracking. Below are some results to share, just bear in mind these are not samples of work, but completely random tests.

** All images are 100%, unsharpened, with zero noise reduction. **

VC (vibration compensation)

One question was how well it worked. I was able to get reasonably sharp shots at 0.5 seconds with VC on, maybe 50% of the time (this is not a scientific test), which I could never ever achieve without it.

The blurring light is a car passing. There is plenty of motion blur, but one can make out quite well the signs at a distance and detail of the sidewalk around the security seated.
The blurring light is a car passing. There is plenty of motion blur, but one can make out quite well the signs at a distance and detail of the sidewalk around the security seated.

Low-light AF

I tested this in a number of ways, and was quite impressed. It bears remembering that the Nikon D750 is rated to -3EV sensitivity, which undoubtedly contributed to its remarkable focusing. All shots are tested with AF-C, presumably the biggest challenge, after 11PM.

First I set it to a slow shutter speed, at only 1/20, VC on, and focused on a passing car, panning along with it. It instantly acquired focus, and tracked the entire sequence.

I had underexposed this shot, so added +2 EV in post to achieve the above. The shutter speed is 1/20.
I had underexposed this shot, so added +2 EV in post to achieve the above. The shutter speed is 1/20.

A closer look, now with +4EV added in post. It had no issue locking on the car (much darker than above), and did not try to focus on the much brighter areas behind it.
A closer look, now with +4EV added in post. It had no issue locking on the car (much darker than above), and did not try to focus on the much brighter areas behind it.

AF-C Auto (continuous auto)

In the next shots, I randomly aimed at a woman in red, certainly not the highest contrast point in the frame, and had the camera shoot in continuous to see how well it tracked. I saw no issues, and can say that in the viewfinder I saw the AF points following her without hesitation. The shots were all underexposed by one-two stops (blush), and shot at f/2. I adjusted the exposure in post. Let's just say that to achieve similar exposure at f/4, I would have needed to shoot at ISO 6400-12800. Again, no sharpening or noise reduction was applied.

This was the first shot of the sequence. I have added only one stop of exposure in post, and this is what it really looked like to my eyes. As you can see, she is hardly dominating the frame, nor is she the highest contrast item.
This was the first shot of the sequence. I have added only one stop of exposure in post, and this is what it really looked like to my eyes. As you can see, she is hardly dominating the frame, nor is she the highest contrast item.

This is a second shot in the sequence (all were in focus), a 100% crop.
This is a second shot in the sequence (all were in focus), a 100% crop.

In the above and below, two stops of exposure were added in post, equivalent to ISO 12800 at f/4 in terms of exposure. The reason I mention this, in spite of being obvious, is because my previous reference was the kit 24-120 f/4, and to achieve the same brightness, I would have needed to raise the ISO to 12800.

The last image, though I have a good dozen, still tracking without issues.
The last image, though I have a good dozen, still tracking without issues.

All in all, I was impressed by the performance. The VC worked its charms, allowing shots I could not without it, and the AF showed it had no issues in the low light.
 
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Received my copy last night. Here are some quick thoughts after playing around at home for an hour or so.

- AF was my biggest concern - speed and ability to focus in low light (1/50 sec, f/1.8, ISO 12800 low). I'm glad that this is a non issue. Haven't tried AF-C.

- VC. This is the number one reason I bought the lens. At 1/8 sec, I can get about 70-80 + % keep rate. In real world shooting I'll probably stay at no slower than 1/13 sec. I like low light shooting and will really benefit from VC + low light AF capability.

- Color rendering and sharpness seems generally good. But this needs more testing.

- The lens sometimes overexposes by maybe 1/3 of a stop. But in some rare cases, it overexposes by 1 stop. This is a slight concern.

- It maybe very slightly front focuses.

- I'm usually not too concerned about minimal focus distance and bokeh quality. But looks this lens' capability in these 2 areas can open new photographic opportunities for me.

- The new USB dock is a very nice idea. But the need for a trip to the manufacturer is a bummer. Maybe I should should wait and buy newer production so that it will be compatible with the dock off the shelf?

Tried a closeup shot of my new weapon Logitech G710 to check out bokeh. Live view manual focus.
Tried a closeup shot of my new weapon Logitech G710 to check out bokeh. Live view manual focus.
 
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Received my copy last night. Here are some quick thoughts after playing around at home for an hour or so.

- AF was my biggest concern - speed and ability to focus in low light (1/50 sec, f/1.8, ISO 12800 low). I'm glad that this is a non issue. Haven't tried AF-C.

- VC. This is the number one reason I bought the lens. At 1/8 sec, I can get about 70-80 + % keep rate. In real world shooting I'll probably stay at no slower than 1/13 sec. I like low light shooting and will really benefit from VC + low light AF capability.

- Color rendering and sharpness seems generally good. But this needs more testing.
I have been very impressed by its overall sharpness even at f/1.8. I would say that it is very sharp even up to 3/4 of the frame. This is great because it means you can frame off-center even wide open and not worry about image quality.
- The lens sometimes overexposes by maybe 1/3 of a stop. But in some rare cases, it overexposes by 1 stop. This is a slight concern.
I have not seen this personally. The 24-120 f/4 definitely underexposes by almost half a stop. I find the Tamron to be spot on.
- It maybe very slightly front focuses.
Mine back-focused a fraction. Using the ruler system, I fine-tuned it to +9 and it is now spot on.
- I'm usually not too concerned about minimal focus distance and bokeh quality. But looks this lens' capability in these 2 areas can open new photographic opportunities for me.

- The new USB dock is a very nice idea. But the need for a trip to the manufacturer is a bummer. Maybe I should should wait and buy newer production so that it will be compatible with the dock off the shelf?

Tried a closeup shot of my new weapon Logitech G710 to check out bokeh. Live view manual focus.
Tried a closeup shot of my new weapon Logitech G710 to check out bokeh. Live view manual focus.
By all means use the AF for this. Mind you, you will see you can achieve a lock in AF up to 7cm (2.5 inches) from the front of the lens.
 
Now I'm convinced too. Will order it tonight I think. I see the USB dock is now available at BH. Not sure it's needed though. Will see first how it goes. If there is some back/front focus and I can adjust in the camera, I shouldn't need it.
 
Thanks for the full-size crops.

This is sort of what the lens plane of focus looks like to me when pixel peeping however (i.e. it looks a bit decentered). Of course its also possible the act of panning combined with stabilization will create such effect. You may want to shoot it with no panning to see what it looks like -



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Thanks for the full-size crops.

This is sort of what the lens plane of focus looks like to me when pixel peeping however (i.e. it looks a bit decentered). Of course its also possible the act of panning combined with stabilization will create such effect. You may want to shoot it with no panning to see what it looks like -

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I don't know what you mean.
 
Now I'm convinced too. Will order it tonight I think. I see the USB dock is now available at BH. Not sure it's needed though. Will see first how it goes. If there is some back/front focus and I can adjust in the camera, I shouldn't need it.
Current stock of the 35mm probably dont support the USB though. Need a trip to Tamron for a firmware upgrade first.
 
Now I'm convinced too. Will order it tonight I think. I see the USB dock is now available at BH. Not sure it's needed though. Will see first how it goes. If there is some back/front focus and I can adjust in the camera, I shouldn't need it.
Current stock of the 35mm probably dont support the USB though. Need a trip to Tamron for a firmware upgrade first.
Ah I didn't know. Maybe I should have waited a little bit more to order it , mine will be delivered on Thursday.


There's a link to check the firmware with the serial number.
 
Now I'm convinced too. Will order it tonight I think. I see the USB dock is now available at BH. Not sure it's needed though. Will see first how it goes. If there is some back/front focus and I can adjust in the camera, I shouldn't need it.
Current stock of the 35mm probably dont support the USB though. Need a trip to Tamron for a firmware upgrade first.
Ah I didn't know. Maybe I should have waited a little bit more to order it , mine will be delivered on Thursday.

https://www.tamron.co.jp/en/news/release_2016/0602.html

There's a link to check the firmware with the serial number.
You might not need it. I needed a small AF finetune with my D750 using the ruler method (+8) and after that... all has been fine as far as I can tell. I will probably pick one up for the Tamron 85 when I buy it in a few weeks, just to cover my bases, but not because of any issues with the 35.
 
I haven't done the extensive testing that you have, however, it's become my walk around lens. It's just a pleasure to shoot with. I was shooting down on the New Orleans riverfront with a 150-600 Sigma C lens and while I like it, it was a pleasure to remove it and put the 35 Tamron on for a walk to a restaurant in the French Quarter. I caught these two street performers in the process.



 Tough guys, these two.  I was in shorts and a t-shirt and was broiling.  Imagine what these guys are feeling!
Tough guys, these two. I was in shorts and a t-shirt and was broiling. Imagine what these guys are feeling!

David

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When one engine fails on a twin-engine airplane, you always have enough power left to get you to the scene of the crash.'
 
I haven't done the extensive testing that you have, however, it's become my walk around lens. It's just a pleasure to shoot with. I was shooting down on the New Orleans riverfront with a 150-600 Sigma C lens and while I like it, it was a pleasure to remove it and put the 35 Tamron on for a walk to a restaurant in the French Quarter. I caught these two street performers in the process.

Tough guys, these two. I was in shorts and a t-shirt and was broiling. Imagine what these guys are feeling!
Tough guys, these two. I was in shorts and a t-shirt and was broiling. Imagine what these guys are feeling!

David
Nice one!

I was at a small jazz duo at a nearby beer store with the 35:

The musicians were good sports and let me get close for this. I gave them copies of the shots needless to say.

The musicians were good sports and let me get close for this. I gave them copies of the shots needless to say.

It was a very cozy performance as you can see.

It was a very cozy performance as you can see.

Bia, the smiling redhead, is a walking encyclopedia on beers

Bia, the smiling redhead, is a walking encyclopedia on beers

Cheers!

Cheers!

(I just copied these from my FB as the originals are on another computer, so the EXIFs may be missing)
 
Yes, sir! The more I shoot with it, the better I like it. I got the 85 as well, but haven't gotten to use it much. Need to give it a proper shakedown.

David
 
The lens is definitely pretty sharp, I like it so far. Did a quick calibration with a ruler and had to apply a +12 .

at F/2
at F/2

F2.5, in this shot I had some CA not easy to remove on the left and right side of the steering wheel. There was lot of light/sun so it was challenging for the lens.
F2.5, in this shot I had some CA not easy to remove on the left and right side of the steering wheel. There was lot of light/sun so it was challenging for the lens.

Close focus (on the left eye)
Close focus (on the left eye)
 
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