I'm switching to Canon!!!!!!!!!!!!

[win39]

If it was the 28-70S, a $1500.lens, the slightest bump can create
internal damage including your camera bag knocking into something.
Mine cost $470 to repair after being dropped a a few feet with no
external damage. A friend of mine has had his repaired three times
with very minor bumps causing major internal damage. On the other
hand I used to bounce a Sigma 28-70 lens (about a $300 lens) on
cement over and over again with some external marks but never any
functional damage. If you felt an internal breakage as you turned
the ring under use I would call that a warr. issue, but if it
wouldn't turn the next time you used it then somehow the lens was
hit and it is your cost. None the less Nikon's lens's do not hold
up as well as they used to.

If a bump is soft enough to not leave a mark on the lens, but damage the inside it does seem to me that that should be Nikon's responsibility. This is sort like the warranty is invalidated by using it. It is a design problem not a use problem.

 

[Daniel KELLY]

OK it seems clear that Canon service is dogey at best and that Nikon lenses are prone to damage issues. But I am interested in the service quality issue here.
Maybe, just maybe it is Nikon USA.

I live in Japan. I have had great service with Nikon. Always. And it seems to be part of the culture here, but most companies do free and comprehensive service it seems.

So you all have been convinced that you want a USA warranty right? EBAY sellers et al.

And then you are the mercy of the bottom line thinking in the good ole USA right?

Do you know that it take the same time to send a camera to Japan as it does to say ,,,ummm..Torrance?

I suspect, just suspect, that what you get in the warranty is dependant on where that warranty is. And it seems the USA version is arrogant and at times and self serving. Sort of like cheap car insurance that never pays out.

I am glad I have a Japan warranty and now more than ever. Yodobashi camera anyone?
Daniel

I am a very supportive user of Nikon, but this kind of treatment
and accusation seriously pi$$es the $hit out of me, and I do not
want to support a company as arrogant as this.

It is entirely likely that you would've gotten the SAME treatment
from Canon service. Look through the CST forum and read about the
many users experiencing the same thing you just did, except it was
the Canon version.

This happens, and switching will not avoid it.

Brendan
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[JonyDirk]

...courteous help nowadays...even with the unemployment numbers being high.

Here's a suggestion on something to do before you make the leap to Canon: buy a cheap Canon lens, break the focusing ring, send it in under warranty, and see how you're treated.

Who knows? Maybe you'll be surprised, and maybe you'll be disappointed...

Cheers,
John

I am so pi$$ed off at Nikon right now. Last week I went to get my
(still under warranty) lens to Nikon Torrance, because the focusing
ring started to jam and would not zoom. Anyways, I've kept that
lens in proper order and always took good care of it. They said
they would fix it no problem.

This week I get a re-estimate saying that there was impact damage
causing the ring to crack, and they would not repair it under
warranty, because they implied the lens was most likely damaged by
me. I called the repair facility and they were extremely rude and
did not try to help me at all, and did not want to resolve anything
with me, leaving me furious.

I am a very supportive user of Nikon, but this kind of treatment
and accusation seriously pi$$es the $hit out of me, and I do not
want to support a company as arrogant as this.

If I do not get the lens repaired as it should be under warranty, I
plan to switch over to Canon and vote with my money. As much as I
prefer Nikon equipment, I will not support these kind of business
tactics.

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[Samuel A. Anderson]

Nikon really PI$$ED me off a few years ago when I paid cash for a 28-70 f2.8 AFS and they would not send one to the shop I bought from because I was not anybody they considered important. The lens was a recent introduction and in short supply. However, they were holding 5 lenses for shops that had no buyers nor could they pay for them. I could not believe that they would not send it even though I paid cash for the lens. I had the store owner tell them that I was a Nikon loyalist (have many thousands $$ tied up in Nikons) and that every piece of equipment I owned that said Nikon was going on eBay and I was switching to Canon. The lens was there the next day. Apparently, you have to threaten Nikon to get them to act.

Sam

I am so pi$$ed off at Nikon right now. Last week I went to get my
(still under warranty) lens to Nikon Torrance, because the focusing
ring started to jam and would not zoom. Anyways, I've kept that
lens in proper order and always took good care of it. They said
they would fix it no problem.

This week I get a re-estimate saying that there was impact damage
causing the ring to crack, and they would not repair it under
warranty, because they implied the lens was most likely damaged by
me. I called the repair facility and they were extremely rude and
did not try to help me at all, and did not want to resolve anything
with me, leaving me furious.

I am a very supportive user of Nikon, but this kind of treatment
and accusation seriously pi$$es the $hit out of me, and I do not
want to support a company as arrogant as this.

If I do not get the lens repaired as it should be under warranty, I
plan to switch over to Canon and vote with my money. As much as I
prefer Nikon equipment, I will not support these kind of business
tactics.

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[Raul]

employees and store managers that are idiots.

Go to another service if possible, if not start writing to whoever is necessary. Do not permit those jerks to laugh at you, I am certain that Nikon does not support fools as employees.

Do not move, rather give a fight.

Regards
Raul

I am so pi$$ed off at Nikon right now. Last week I went to get my
(still under warranty) lens to Nikon Torrance, because the focusing
ring started to jam and would not zoom. Anyways, I've kept that
lens in proper order and always took good care of it. They said
they would fix it no problem.

This week I get a re-estimate saying that there was impact damage
causing the ring to crack, and they would not repair it under
warranty, because they implied the lens was most likely damaged by
me. I called the repair facility and they were extremely rude and
did not try to help me at all, and did not want to resolve anything
with me, leaving me furious.

I am a very supportive user of Nikon, but this kind of treatment
and accusation seriously pi$$es the $hit out of me, and I do not
want to support a company as arrogant as this.

If I do not get the lens repaired as it should be under warranty, I
plan to switch over to Canon and vote with my money. As much as I
prefer Nikon equipment, I will not support these kind of business
tactics.

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[mike55]

Mike Elman wrote:

Jonathan, I really feel for you. I love Nikon equipment but hate the Torrance repair facility. I always felt they are trying harder to find the escape clause in the warranty than give good service to the customer. The young girl at the counter is deadly. She always accuses the customer of abusing the equipment. I had my D100 and 70 - 200 VR repaired because they occasional stopped working. While they were in the Torrance repair facility I bought a brand new 85 1.4 lens. When I got my D100 back home I tried to mount the new 85MM 1.4 to it. It went on very poorly and I bent the aperature lever in the camera. I took everything back to Torrance. I showed the D100 to Miss Wonderful behind the counter and she went into shock. She acted like I had killed her first born. She just continued to obcess about the bent lever and how it was all my fault. What I wanted to know was 1. Did they do anything to the D100 mount during the last repair that could have contributed to me bending the lever. 2. Was my new 85MM 1.4 defective in some way. She was not interested in any of my questions and only continued to accuse me vandalizing the camera. With the Torrance Repair Facility it pays to buy grey market because your Nikon USA warranty has no value.

I am so pi$$ed off at Nikon right now. Last week I went to get my
(still under warranty) lens to Nikon Torrance, because the focusing
ring started to jam and would not zoom. Anyways, I've kept that
lens in proper order and always took good care of it. They said
they would fix it no problem.

This week I get a re-estimate saying that there was impact damage
causing the ring to crack, and they would not repair it under
warranty, because they implied the lens was most likely damaged by
me. I called the repair facility and they were extremely rude and
did not try to help me at all, and did not want to resolve anything
with me, leaving me furious.

I am a very supportive user of Nikon, but this kind of treatment
and accusation seriously pi$$es the $hit out of me, and I do not
want to support a company as arrogant as this.

If I do not get the lens repaired as it should be under warranty, I
plan to switch over to Canon and vote with my money. As much as I
prefer Nikon equipment, I will not support these kind of business
tactics.

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[Terry Cioni]

Thank you Frantz, this has been my experience. NPS is excellent. I also find that Nikon service is excellent here in Canada. I was not required to produce financial information or a list of gear. Ger Bee is a giant pain, and serious troll who Phil let's get away with this kind of disinformation......for some reason beyond comprehension. Of course as Phil likes to point out it his website to command.

Cheers. Terry.

NPS service has been outstanding.

........... take NPS registration for instance, I had to jump
through hoops, own a zillion pieces of gear and prove it with
client lists and bank statements; for what, in my fight with Nikon
it ended the same way.

 

[Terry Cioni]

Jonathan,

Contact the US Nikon National Service Manager - let him/her know what is going on. Send an email to Richard LoPinto as well. Let Mellville know what is going at Torrance.

I suspect Mellville head office is unware of the poor behavior of Torrance service personel.
Cheers. Terry.

And I really am not a fan of Canon. So most likely I won't switch,
but I'd rather try to avoid letting Nikon make money off me.
Seriously, if they are trying to avoid fixing a lens that is under
warranty, then what is the point of buying domestic (USA), if that
1year/4year extended service coverage is garbage? It's pure BS I
think.

Good luck getting your lens fixed.

I am so pi$$ed off at Nikon right now. Last week I went to get my
(still under warranty) lens to Nikon Torrance, because the focusing
ring started to jam and would not zoom. Anyways, I've kept that
lens in proper order and always took good care of it. They said
they would fix it no problem.

This week I get a re-estimate saying that there was impact damage
causing the ring to crack, and they would not repair it under
warranty, because they implied the lens was most likely damaged by
me. I called the repair facility and they were extremely rude and
did not try to help me at all, and did not want to resolve anything
with me, leaving me furious.

I am a very supportive user of Nikon, but this kind of treatment
and accusation seriously pi$$es the $hit out of me, and I do not
want to support a company as arrogant as this.

If I do not get the lens repaired as it should be under warranty, I
plan to switch over to Canon and vote with my money. As much as I
prefer Nikon equipment, I will not support these kind of business
tactics.

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[Teski]

Do you not remember the soft focus debacle on the D100 last August, September, and October? THat should have made you question Nikon based on your post. The 10D AF non-issue is exactly the same thing...Over-hyped by people that need to learn their camera.

Teski

I am so pi$$ed off at Nikon right now.

I have Canon video equipment, they don't have remappable hot pixel.
We run a poll, 35% of the owners got a hot pixel. Hot pixels in
video camera are terrible since there aren't too many pixels. My
camera has 3CCD each with only 270000 pixel, if you get a hot one,
it will be a spot with a diameter of 5mm on a 53" TV.

I was lucky I got it the first week so I switched camera. Many of
us got it late or just after the warranty. Canon even in front of
35% of us refused to consider this endemic and charged to many of
us $800 to repair it.
This is for the good customer service. Not only you suffer with the
trouble, you even have to pay for it although you did nothing wrong.

The AF in the 10D is something that also make me thing about Canon.

--
Regards
Gabriele Sartori

--
Teski

'Remember that DSLR bodies come and go, but the lenses stay forever.'

 

[Ed Boakes]

Jon,

I, too, have had some disappointments with Nikon Repair:

1) I sent in a 17-35mm lens which had received impact damage. I happily paid for the repair, but when it was returned to me, they had not completed the job! The zoom ring turns stiffly in the 22mm region. It should turn smoothly over the entire zoom range. Though they sent me a UPS sticker to send it back to them, I'm really annoyed that I will be without the lens for another week or two.

2) I sent in an SB-28 DX flash which had become intermittant. When it was returned (today 6Aug2003) the repair was not complete. They replaced the foot, which had nothing to do with the problem. The flash was just as intermittant as it was when I sent it to them. I would speculate that the technician who was assigned to work on the flash did not get to see the cover letter which described the problem. Once I got through to Nikon Service, their agents were very polite and apologetic and did agree to send me a loaner while I returned my un-repaired SB-28DX to them.

I am mostly saddened by this. Since I went pro, in 1999, I've invested almost $16,000 in Nikon equipment. I'm giving serious thought to sinking about $12,000 into a Canon 1Ds, a couple of lenses and flashes

Ed B.

I am so pi$$ed off at Nikon right now. Last week I went to get my
(still under warranty) lens to Nikon Torrance, because the focusing
ring started to jam and would not zoom. Anyways, I've kept that
lens in proper order and always took good care of it. They said
they would fix it no problem.

This week I get a re-estimate saying that there was impact damage
causing the ring to crack, and they would not repair it under
warranty, because they implied the lens was most likely damaged by
me. I called the repair facility and they were extremely rude and
did not try to help me at all, and did not want to resolve anything
with me, leaving me furious.

I am a very supportive user of Nikon, but this kind of treatment
and accusation seriously pi$$es the $hit out of me, and I do not
want to support a company as arrogant as this.

If I do not get the lens repaired as it should be under warranty, I
plan to switch over to Canon and vote with my money. As much as I
prefer Nikon equipment, I will not support these kind of business
tactics.

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[f8&bethere]

If it was the 28-70S, a $1500.lens, the slightest bump can create
internal damage including your camera bag knocking into something.
Mine cost $470 to repair after being dropped a a few feet with no
external damage. A friend of mine has had his repaired three times
with very minor bumps causing major internal damage. On the other
hand I used to bounce a Sigma 28-70 lens (about a $300 lens) on
cement over and over again with some external marks but never any
functional damage. If you felt an internal breakage as you turned
the ring under use I would call that a warr. issue, but if it
wouldn't turn the next time you used it then somehow the lens was
hit and it is your cost. None the less Nikon's lens's do not hold
up as well as they used to.

If a bump is soft enough to not leave a mark on the lens, but
damage the inside it does seem to me that that should be Nikon's
responsibility. This is sort like the warranty is invalidated by
using it. It is a design problem not a use problem.

I have to agree with you that the 28-70S lens should be able to take a hit and keep on ticking. I think the reason it it so fragile is the high speed auto focus design. The increase in performance and weight makes it more fragile. The 24-85mm 2.8-4.0 lens which I also own is much more durable. It would have been helpful if the poster of this thread had said which lens he was complaining about and what the repair bill came to. Nikon always agrees to cover a submitted warr. repair untill they find evidence of impact damage.

 

[Daniel KELLY]

As I read these complaints I can't help but say agian for those of you with a Nikon USA warranty that maybe gray is looking like a good option. What you save on purchases you can apply to the service costs. Or do as I do and buy from Japan and send your equiptment back for repairs where the service appears to be better. There is no reason to throw the baby out with the bath and buy Canon!
D

I, too, have had some disappointments with Nikon Repair:

1) I sent in a 17-35mm lens which had received impact damage. I
happily paid for the repair, but when it was returned to me, they
had not completed the job! The zoom ring turns stiffly in the 22mm
region. It should turn smoothly over the entire zoom range.
Though they sent me a UPS sticker to send it back to them, I'm
really annoyed that I will be without the lens for another week or
two.

2) I sent in an SB-28 DX flash which had become intermittant. When
it was returned (today 6Aug2003) the repair was not complete. They
replaced the foot, which had nothing to do with the problem. The
flash was just as intermittant as it was when I sent it to them. I
would speculate that the technician who was assigned to work on the
flash did not get to see the cover letter which described the
problem. Once I got through to Nikon Service, their agents were
very polite and apologetic and did agree to send me a loaner while
I returned my un-repaired SB-28DX to them.

I am mostly saddened by this. Since I went pro, in 1999, I've
invested almost $16,000 in Nikon equipment. I'm giving serious
thought to sinking about $12,000 into a Canon 1Ds, a couple of
lenses and flashes

Ed B.

I am so pi$$ed off at Nikon right now. Last week I went to get my
(still under warranty) lens to Nikon Torrance, because the focusing
ring started to jam and would not zoom. Anyways, I've kept that
lens in proper order and always took good care of it. They said
they would fix it no problem.

This week I get a re-estimate saying that there was impact damage
causing the ring to crack, and they would not repair it under
warranty, because they implied the lens was most likely damaged by
me. I called the repair facility and they were extremely rude and
did not try to help me at all, and did not want to resolve anything
with me, leaving me furious.

I am a very supportive user of Nikon, but this kind of treatment
and accusation seriously pi$$es the $hit out of me, and I do not
want to support a company as arrogant as this.

If I do not get the lens repaired as it should be under warranty, I
plan to switch over to Canon and vote with my money. As much as I
prefer Nikon equipment, I will not support these kind of business
tactics.

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[Ed Nazarko]

I've got a pretty good track record of getting people to do things for me that they're not supposed to do, or inclined to do; getting in their face isn't usually the best approach. Getting face to face, and letting them understand that you're a reasonable guy, and how would they want you to handle this, is your best shot. People tend to take care of people.

I've also found that individuals are not usually representative of the company, if you can find both people who are happy, and people who are angry, with the service. I've seen a lot of happy on this forum; you're dealing with one or two people who were having a bad day when they made your decisions - see if you can convince them that taking care of you will make them feel good.

And I really am not a fan of Canon. So most likely I won't switch,
but I'd rather try to avoid letting Nikon make money off me.
Seriously, if they are trying to avoid fixing a lens that is under
warranty, then what is the point of buying domestic (USA), if that
1year/4year extended service coverage is garbage? It's pure BS I
think.

Good luck getting your lens fixed.

I am so pi$$ed off at Nikon right now. Last week I went to get my
(still under warranty) lens to Nikon Torrance, because the focusing
ring started to jam and would not zoom. Anyways, I've kept that
lens in proper order and always took good care of it. They said
they would fix it no problem.

This week I get a re-estimate saying that there was impact damage
causing the ring to crack, and they would not repair it under
warranty, because they implied the lens was most likely damaged by
me. I called the repair facility and they were extremely rude and
did not try to help me at all, and did not want to resolve anything
with me, leaving me furious.

I am a very supportive user of Nikon, but this kind of treatment
and accusation seriously pi$$es the $hit out of me, and I do not
want to support a company as arrogant as this.

If I do not get the lens repaired as it should be under warranty, I
plan to switch over to Canon and vote with my money. As much as I
prefer Nikon equipment, I will not support these kind of business
tactics.

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[nikorr]

Come on , one bad expirience cannot reflect the real situation in Nikon or any other firm customer care . I know sometimes its not easy , but since Im trying to be nice , I havent seen a bad service for while .
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[Trevor Kloeden]

If I changed brands of any piece of equipment each time I had c* p services, it would be a full time job.

Accept that this will happen.
Don't accept their attitude.
Accept that you have great gear.

Trevor

 

[Jonathan F.]

Well I'm keeping my equipment, but from now on I'm buying grey market, screw that USA Warranty bull cr@p. I'll save myself some cash from those b@stards.

Since I'm done venting, I'll start posting pictures from my wonderful camera again.

I am so pi$$ed off at Nikon right now. Last week I went to get my
(still under warranty) lens to Nikon Torrance, because the focusing
ring started to jam and would not zoom. Anyways, I've kept that
lens in proper order and always took good care of it. They said
they would fix it no problem.

This week I get a re-estimate saying that there was impact damage
causing the ring to crack, and they would not repair it under
warranty, because they implied the lens was most likely damaged by
me. I called the repair facility and they were extremely rude and
did not try to help me at all, and did not want to resolve anything
with me, leaving me furious.

I am a very supportive user of Nikon, but this kind of treatment
and accusation seriously pi$$es the $hit out of me, and I do not
want to support a company as arrogant as this.

If I do not get the lens repaired as it should be under warranty, I
plan to switch over to Canon and vote with my money. As much as I
prefer Nikon equipment, I will not support these kind of business
tactics.

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[Karl Jacobs166774]

about Nikon Torrance is what they do with your equipment if you refuse service....

I have had a camera returned to me in pieces, and I have seen another poor soul who literally got a box of parts (minus the box). The other posts about the girl at the front desk are certainly true. I've seen it on more than one occasion. She also manages to charge you more for parts than if you get a technician or manager to help you.

and yes, EVERYTHING that goes in there has impact damage. IF it isn't working, it MUST be impact damage, right?... because Nikon hardware would not stop working on it's own, right?...

and according to the gatekeepress, it IS always our fault.........

 

[Daniel KELLY]

Since I'm done venting, I'll start posting pictures from my
wonderful camera again.

I am so pi$$ed off at Nikon right now. Last week I went to get my
(still under warranty) lens to Nikon Torrance, because the focusing
ring started to jam and would not zoom. Anyways, I've kept that
lens in proper order and always took good care of it. They said
they would fix it no problem.

This week I get a re-estimate saying that there was impact damage
causing the ring to crack, and they would not repair it under
warranty, because they implied the lens was most likely damaged by
me. I called the repair facility and they were extremely rude and
did not try to help me at all, and did not want to resolve anything
with me, leaving me furious.

I am a very supportive user of Nikon, but this kind of treatment
and accusation seriously pi$$es the $hit out of me, and I do not
want to support a company as arrogant as this.

If I do not get the lens repaired as it should be under warranty, I
plan to switch over to Canon and vote with my money. As much as I
prefer Nikon equipment, I will not support these kind of business
tactics.

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[Yakuza!]

Sorry, Nikon arrogance is nothing new. Just look at there business practices in regards to camera stores. I'm pro Canon and pro Fuji. I have written several letters to Fuji regarding an EOS body. They may very well develop one as Canon has so vigorously dominated the digital markets.

Anyway, my personal dealings with Fuji and Canon have been excellent. 5 years ago I wrote a letter and sent it to every major camera manufacturer. ONLY Canon responded. Last week, I sent Fuji an e-mail about a typograchical error, and they sent me my favorite film for free (and I got the film merely days after there e-mail thanking me).

One of the things I don't like about large corporations is the lack of humanism. Simply responding is a big deal to me. But, rewarding my loyalty is quite another.

Several days ago, I went to purchase a smoke at a nearby gyrocery. They asked for my ID (even though I have a full beard and certainly don't look under 18). So, I returned with my passport. They then said they were out (and were quite rude). Late at night, I often want a nice cold beverage. This gyrocery has cokes for .75. The burger shop accross the street has cokes for $1. The people at the burger shop have always been curteous to me. So, now I only buy from them. To me, the extra .25 is more than worth the loss of dignity from buying a cheaper product from would be terrorists.

-Yakuza

I am so pi$$ed off at Nikon right now. Last week I went to get my
(still under warranty) lens to Nikon Torrance, because the focusing
ring started to jam and would not zoom. Anyways, I've kept that
lens in proper order and always took good care of it. They said
they would fix it no problem.

This week I get a re-estimate saying that there was impact damage
causing the ring to crack, and they would not repair it under
warranty, because they implied the lens was most likely damaged by
me. I called the repair facility and they were extremely rude and
did not try to help me at all, and did not want to resolve anything
with me, leaving me furious.

I am a very supportive user of Nikon, but this kind of treatment
and accusation seriously pi$$es the $hit out of me, and I do not
want to support a company as arrogant as this.

If I do not get the lens repaired as it should be under warranty, I
plan to switch over to Canon and vote with my money. As much as I
prefer Nikon equipment, I will not support these kind of business
tactics.

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[Ron Reznick]

There are a large number of very good lenses that do not say "L" or "AFS" on them. The Sigma 70-200 HSM is one. The Nikkor 85mm f/1.4D and 60mm Micro are two others. What about the Nikkor DC lenses? What about the 45mm f/2.8P (one of the best lenses for one of the lowest prices around)? How about the Tamron 90mm Macro? How about the Sigma 105mm Macro while we're discussing macro lenses, or the Nikkor 200mm Micro? And on, and on...

There are plenty of professional-quality tools out there, Gerald. Some extremely-fine shots have been yielded by the $100 50mm f/1.8. The Nikkor 24mm f/2.8D or 35mm f/2D also. None of those have the coveted "L" or "AFS" inscribed on them either.

Use good quality tools, certainly. Know what those are though. The "L" or "AFS" does not ensure top quality every time, you know. Think about it.

Ron

........................ If professional then only L glass or AFS
is recommended Sigma just does not stand up, I've a new DX 24~70
Sigma (to save money???) but it's so horrible compared to the L
glass that I bought I'm not using it.

I should have kept my €950 and put it towards the €3,000 L lens and
be finished with it for ever.

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