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Leo;

There's quite a number of good LCD displays to choose from at various price points. Check out the following article on the matter (from Photolife magazine):

http://www.photolife.com/articleInfolettre.php?idArticle=194

If you want the best, I can vouch for an Eizo LCD display .. mine's been going for 6 years now and has rarely required recalibration of colour.
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Got the Dell 2408 WFP here.

It rocks. But, of course, shortly after I bought it they came out with an IPS panel for roughly Cdn $50 more.

Never seen it, or used it. It might be better...in some sense of the word...

FYI, I almost bought it too, and may yet, but this one is a head and shoulders above my Samsung 930b....

Both are, FYI, calibrated (Spyder 3 Pro), and yes, my graphics card can do that... :)

Mind you, printing on my 9500 is still a *****.... :)
 
IPS monitors
  • HP2475
  • Dell U2410
  • NEC 2490 or 2690 (some variants come with colorimeter.
  • Planar equivalents of the above
  • HP Dreamcolor
  • Dell 2209 eIPS
  • NEC 23" eIPS
  • Apple Cinema display (the older ones are more color accurate I hear).
  • The 30 inch from LG (IPS)
Go to hardforum and take a look at hte display subforum. I have an old Dell 2005FPW which is an awesome IPS monitor

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I am in the same situation, and have been looking at some of the monitors mentioned here, like the 24in Dell and the NEC WUXI models.

One issue that keeps coming up is that the high gamut models are not always very good when run at SRGB mode. So, if you are likely to be working in ARGB and have your monitor calibrated to that mode, you'd be best of with one of the high-gamut models (like the Dell or NEC 2690, but not the 2490). But if you are going to be working in SRGB space, you can't rely on the SRGB modes of these monitors to give you good results. Are you going to watch movies on the monitor as well? Is your slideshow app colour space aware? Is windows 7? How are you printing? I think it is unlikely you will create calibrations for both SRGB and ARGB mode and keep swapping - at least that's the conclusion I came to for myself. I am not even sure if my huey will be able to create reliable calibrations for a high-gamut monitor.

If you are after something cheaper, there is also the p221w from NEC - not an IPS panel but apparently not too bad either.

I haven't made up my mind yet on this question either - at the moment it looks like either the 2490 or the dell 2410 for me.

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Yeah - you probably needs a colorimeter to calibrate your monitor.

But - I dont know if I was lucky or not. My Philips 200P is very near to calibrated. When the calibration plug-in kicks in I can hardly see the color difference. Way back when I had a CRT monitor - the calibration was dramatic. A bluish monitor became much warmer when the plug-in corrected it. But for this monitor - I could really stop using the plug-in. But ... ut is comfortable to know that it is correct.

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NewsyL said:
Something to watch out for if you go this route...

The HP LP2475w, the Philips 240PW9EB, and the Dell U2410 all use a variant of an H-IPS panel made for them by the LG/Philips panel consortium.

This panel has had some issues, namely a left side green / right side red caste to the screen that is easy to see on a white background after the monitor warms up for 30 minutes or so.

I have not seen a report on the HP LP2475w in a while but this was an issue shortly after it was introduced last year. It is an issue right now with shipping units of the Dell and Philips units. It seems that this is happening in a fairly small sample size otherwise there would be much more of an uproar.
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I have a LP2475W with which I am well pleased.

The first one I purchased showed the pink bias at the right side of the screen (tho' not to the extent shown in the previous post).

I placed a call on the HP support site and WITHIN 36hrs I was unpacking a replacement monitor which was fine. The original was collected by courier a few days later (at HP's expense), I was impressed by their service.

Regarding a LCD monitor, I also use a Samsung Syncmaster T220 which I like and which calibrates reasonably well with a Spyder3 Pro. The problem with this monitor for editing purposes, is that the image is pretty sensitive to viewing angle.
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TheBrumReaper said:
One issue that keeps coming up is that the high gamut models are not always very good when run at SRGB mode. So, if you are likely to be working in ARGB and have your monitor calibrated to that mode, you'd be best of with one of the high-gamut models (like the Dell or NEC 2690, but not the 2490). But if you are going to be working in SRGB space, you can't rely on the SRGB modes of these monitors to give you good results.
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Yes... wide gamut monitors bring their own issues. If you use such a monitor you will soon appreciate the virtues of colour-managed apps, including a web browser.
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debo said:
Have one .... Other choices
NEC 2490
Dell U2410 (same panel as in HP)
NEC 23" e-IPS (supposedly good)
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Prad.de has published their review of the NEC EA231WMi with its' e-IPS panel. They only rated it a Good perhaps in part because it has some issues with video feeds, "streaks" in gaming, and more seriously for image editing - panel uniformity that was visible to the naked eye.

I translated some of the pages using Google's Translation service.

http://translate.google.ca/?hl=en&tab=nT#

http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/test/2009/test-nec-ea231wmi-bk.html

It does offer 96% of the sRGB colour space. It is 8bit. Oddly, for a monitor aimed at the multimedia crowd, it does not have an HDMI input.

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If you are really in Japan as your profile indicates, I don't know what to suggest for your market.

The Dell 2209WA is without a doubt the best bang for the buck monitor at the low end of the image editing market. It is accurate, has good viewing angles, calibrates well, and handles video well. It is an incredible value in the USA and Canada as it has been available at times, with coupons for as low as $220 USD. An early introductory sale saw it going for $189 CAD in Canada.

Dell 2209WA
...... e-IPS TFT LCD panel
...... 8bit processing
...... 8bit panel
...... 22 inch, 1680x1050 resolution
...... 99% sRGB colour space (as per Prad.de)

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/Displays/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&cs=04&sku=320-7825

http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/review/2009/review-dell-2209wa.html

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Expensive and intended for professionals, but if you can swing it, this monitor is arguably better than anything that's already been discussed.
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I am using a Dell 2209WAF LCD 22" wide screen which is an IPS screen with 1680 x 1050 resolution. At the time, it seemed to be great value for money for the size, and I am very happy with it. :-) I calibrate it with the Spider Pro.
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Hi Gerald!

I think I have pretty well settled on a monitor...the Dell Ultra Sharp U 2410, 24 inch monitor. It seems to fit all the criteria for a good photo editing monitor and just about anything else. All the suggestions here and other reviews and commentaries have convinced me this is as good as any and better than most, unless you are going to buy the Cadillac of monitors!

At a little over 700 dollars Canadian, I will probably pick one up after Christmas. My generous wife may not be as generous as before after I have bought the K-7 and am thinking of the DA*300mm lens in the Spring! There are limits! (I think!)

I am making arrangements to have my big old Samsung 21 inch SyncMaster1100 refurbished and reused by a local recycling company here in Waterloo who does that kind of thing...they then donate it somewhere it is needed.
If you are thinking of a new monitor then this one may interest you too mate!

Very best to you
Leo
photogerald said:
Hi Leo! Just wondering, what is your budget for this purchase?

Regards,

Gerald
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Leo James Mitchell said:
Hi Gerald!

I think I have pretty well settled on a monitor...the Dell Ultra Sharp U 2410, 24 inch monitor. It seems to fit all the criteria for a good photo editing monitor and just about anything else. All the suggestions here and other reviews and commentaries have convinced me this is as good as any and better than most, unless you are going to buy the Cadillac of monitors!

At a little over 700 dollars Canadian, I will probably pick one up after Christmas. My generous wife may not be as generous as before after I have bought the K-7 and am thinking of the DA*300mm lens in the Spring! There are limits! (I think!)

I am making arrangements to have my big old Samsung 21 inch SyncMaster1100 refurbished and reused by a local recycling company here in Waterloo who does that kind of thing...they then donate it somewhere it is needed.
If you are thinking of a new monitor then this one may interest you too mate!
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Hi Leo!

Thanks for the recommendation. I haven't really been keeping up with LCD tech, but in my experience Dell LCD monitors have always been a good value. I've currently got a pair of 2408WFPt's at work, and even though these use a cheaper TN panel I think they're pretty good for what we paid for them. It's good that you're planning to wait until the holidays (or afterwards) to buy as Dell usually has a very nice "10 days of" special around that time.

I myself have been thinking of getting an LCD for home use, and was going to check out Dell's latest offerings. However, I'm intrigued by the new Apple iMacs as these supposedly use excellent LED-backlit IPS panels. The 27" model seems like a stunning value, for those who need that large of a display. But I think the 21.5" model would be the more realistic choice for me. Also considering the fact that I currently do not have a desktop computer at home - I figure I'd be prepared to spend $500 on a monitor, so for $700 more I could solve my desktop issue, and all in more elegant packaging to boot. In otherwords, this would be the old "killing two birds" (by spending more cash!) scenario.

Anyways, I think I will also wait until the holidays before I make any purchasing decisions. I don't really "need" to get another computer - I already have a laptop and a netbook at home, plus my work laptop. On the otherhand, these machines aren't quite up to snuff for image editing (so I try to tell myself).

Cheers,

Gerald
 
Thanks Andre, but that is a little too rich for my blood! ;-) I know they are excellent machines but I think the Dell will do all I need to do! If I were doing this as a business or as a very advanced amateur who sells captures from time to time, I wouldn't hesitate to follow your advice!
Thanks you for your comments!

Best regards
Leo
Andre Oliveira said:
Color Graphics(CG) series, if you can afford.
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