Best Place to get 16x20 Prints made???

[Damin69]

I have a couple of pictures that I have taken with my DSC-f707 that we want to use at work for some AWARD presentations that we have.
Only need to find a Good place to Print them at.

Need a place that can Print 16x20 and larger with out costing an arm and a Leg perfeable.
But will take quality over Price.
Thanks for any help you may have.
Todd

 

[wildbill]

I have a couple of pictures that I have taken with my DSC-f707 that
we want to use at work for some AWARD presentations that we have.
Only need to find a Good place to Print them at.
Need a place that can Print 16x20 and larger with out costing an
arm and a Leg perfeable.
But will take quality over Price.
Thanks for any help you may have.
Todd

I heard ofoto is good.
wb

 

[Alex Worden]

I've use ofoto before. Their 5x7 prints are fantastic. I've not been so impressed with the larger prints - but perhaps because of the original quality. If you're going to print that large, you should be working with at least 150 pixels per inch. i.e. 2400x3000 == 7.2mp camera required. So, don't expect great results close-up.

5mp really isn't that much bigger in area than 3mp I've discovered since upgrading from my DSC-P1 to the F707. If you want a decent 3mp image to be twice and high and twice as wide, we're waiting for 12mp cameras!

I have a couple of pictures that I have taken with my DSC-f707 that
we want to use at work for some AWARD presentations that we have.
Only need to find a Good place to Print them at.
Need a place that can Print 16x20 and larger with out costing an
arm and a Leg perfeable.
But will take quality over Price.
Thanks for any help you may have.
Todd

I heard ofoto is good.
wb

 

[TurboTed]

Ofoto has done a great job. $15 for 16x20, $20 for 20x30 plus shipping. They will usually get the prints out in 24hours if you pay for express shipping.

I've used ImageStation when they were offering a 20% discount. They actually use Ofoto for their prints and are normally priced the same as Ofoto.

I have a couple of pictures that I have taken with my DSC-f707 that
we want to use at work for some AWARD presentations that we have.
Only need to find a Good place to Print them at.
Need a place that can Print 16x20 and larger with out costing an
arm and a Leg perfeable.
But will take quality over Price.
Thanks for any help you may have.
Todd

 

[Peter Arp]

I have a couple of pictures that I have taken with my DSC-f707 that
we want to use at work for some AWARD presentations that we have.
Only need to find a Good place to Print them at.
Need a place that can Print 16x20 and larger with out costing an
arm and a Leg perfeable.
But will take quality over Price.
Thanks for any help you may have.
Todd

Try WWW.Poster Creators.com Peter

 

[Shay Stephens]

I like the results from ofoto, I have tried ezprints on 16x20 but it did not look as good as ofoto. They come out a little soft from both. But exprints was softer.

 

[Jeremy Birn61459]

I like the results from ofoto, I have tried ezprints on 16x20 but
it did not look as good as ofoto. They come out a little soft from
both. But exprints was softer.

F707 shots that are 2560 pixel across would only be 128 PPI when printed that big. I'd expect some softness if you printed those, unless you up-rezed with software like Genuine Fractals first.

Has anyone tried sending really big files to any of those services? I'm thinking of making some 16x20 prints of panoramas that are 8000+ pixels across. I'll give ofoto a try because they are cheap, but I'm worried I might need to try more expensive services to get really good reproduction on the more detailed images.

-jeremy

 

[Floating_Fotoman]

Ofoto prints their 16x20's at 107 dpi. This is lower resolution than they print their 5x7s and 8x10's, which are both at 210 dpi.

I like the results from ofoto, I have tried ezprints on 16x20 but
it did not look as good as ofoto. They come out a little soft from
both. But exprints was softer.

F707 shots that are 2560 pixel across would only be 128 PPI when
printed that big. I'd expect some softness if you printed those,
unless you up-rezed with software like Genuine Fractals first.

Has anyone tried sending really big files to any of those services?
I'm thinking of making some 16x20 prints of panoramas that are
8000+ pixels across. I'll give ofoto a try because they are cheap,
but I'm worried I might need to try more expensive services to get
really good reproduction on the more detailed images.

-jeremy

 

[Jeremy Birn61459]

Ouch!

I guess you get what you pay for then...

-jeremy

I like the results from ofoto, I have tried ezprints on 16x20 but
it did not look as good as ofoto. They come out a little soft from
both. But exprints was softer.

F707 shots that are 2560 pixel across would only be 128 PPI when
printed that big. I'd expect some softness if you printed those,
unless you up-rezed with software like Genuine Fractals first.

Has anyone tried sending really big files to any of those services?
I'm thinking of making some 16x20 prints of panoramas that are
8000+ pixels across. I'll give ofoto a try because they are cheap,
but I'm worried I might need to try more expensive services to get
really good reproduction on the more detailed images.

-jeremy

 

[Mike K]

Have you tried various upsampling techniqes? Besides the standard bicubic there is Lanczos, stair interpolation, Genuine fractals, and many others. With careful editing, modest upsampling and careful sharpening, a F707 file should be able to yield a really impressive 15x20 print. The final dpi depends upon your choice of printer.
Mike K

5mp really isn't that much bigger in area than 3mp I've discovered
since upgrading from my DSC-P1 to the F707. If you want a decent
3mp image to be twice and high and twice as wide, we're waiting for
12mp cameras!

I have a couple of pictures that I have taken with my DSC-f707 that
we want to use at work for some AWARD presentations that we have.
Only need to find a Good place to Print them at.
Need a place that can Print 16x20 and larger with out costing an
arm and a Leg perfeable.
But will take quality over Price.
Thanks for any help you may have.
Todd

I heard ofoto is good.
wb

 

[Mike Tichon]

I like the results from ofoto, I have tried ezprints on 16x20 but
it did not look as good as ofoto. They come out a little soft from
both. But exprints was softer.

I got great 16x20's from EZ Prints when using my E-10. I haven't tried them for F707 shots. I like Ofoto, but haven't gotten anything bigger than 8.5x11 from them.

Mike

 

[PhotoFrank]

I am curious. Where did you get that information? Also, you said that they print 8x10 photos at 210dpi, does that mean they use 210dpi for 8x10s regardless of the size of the original image?

 

[Shay Stephens]

The native ofoto 16x20 imager is 3000x2400 which would give you 150dpi if you sent a full size 3000x2400 image. Sending a 2400x1920 image will give you a 120 dpi image.

 

[Jeremy Birn61459]

The native ofoto 16x20 imager is 3000x2400 which would give you
150dpi if you sent a full size 3000x2400 image. Sending a
2400x1920 image will give you a 120 dpi image.

OK, then, I'm scaling an image down to 3000x2400 and ordering a 16x20 print. But, where did you hear that info? I looked all through ofoto's site, and all I saw in searching their help area was the statement below, that doesn't mention what native pixel dimensions they use on bigger prints...

Minimum recommended image resolutions for printing:

4 x 6" Print / 640 x 480 pixels minimum
5 x 7" Print / 1024 x 768 pixels minimum
8 x 10" Print / 1536 x 1024 pixels minimum
16 x 20" Print / 1200 x 1500 pixels minimum
20 x 30" Print / 1200 x 1800 pixels minimum

Our native pixel dimensions for printing are as follows:

4 x 6" = 1200 x 1800
5 x 7" = 1500 x 2100
8 x 10" = 2400 x 3000

???

 

[Floating_Fotoman]

Darn! I don't know if they changed their site within the last few days, or if it was too late at night for me to read it properly, because now I'm getting 300 dpi!

To convert a size to pixel ratio to dpi, divide the long number of pixels by the long side of the print (works on the short sides too):

4x6: 1800/6 = 300 dpi
5x7: 2100/7 = 300 dpi
8x10: 3000/10= 300 dpi

I'm sure the information I saw two nights ago was quoting the native size as what is now quoted as their minimum recommended resolution. That gave me 210 dpi.

Again, it could have been me because it was late at night, but I really think they updated their info... Oh, well. This is good news, but they don't clarify what resolution their prints are when you get larger than 8x10. Perhaps it's time for an email to them...

Again, sorry if it was my error.

 

[Floating_Fotoman]

Darn! I don't know if they changed their site within the last few
days, or if it was too late at night for me to read it properly,
because now I'm getting 300 dpi!

Looking at the site again, I'm pretty sure they had the wrong info up before and have since changed it. They now list the minimum recommended upload resolutions twice, but with conflicting numbers. Inserted between are the new, correct native resolutions that reflect 300 dpi up to 8x10.

I still can't be 100% sure it wasn't my oversight, but I feel a little better.

 

[killer]

You are kidding!

• I got 3 Epson 1280's-rebuild with continous flow quality ink (A3+size.

Quad b/w , normal dye and archival pigment coror.

The limit with my 707bazooka is aroyund A4 (thnk you call it letter size) -
what ever fractals or prog i use - that the linit for me.

However You can use that limit for fine art - using grain etc as part of the artpiece

With my scanner an 6x6 Hasselblad I can easaly go for 60x60 cm - althou

many tell me moro than that - I find it nit true. If techncal color etc is in conciderarin.

I'll oalso state that it's easer to do B/W - and it COULD be used by the 7070bazooka. (Quad - or piezo is all 6 chambers has diffent shade of gray/black) - Here you might go even higher for using grain as an artistical effect.

I have made an 3 x 4 m multi paper poster - however it must be used outdoors as a ype of poster. Plese don't go to near - You dont even see
anything - but at distance i even enjoyable.

5mp really isn't that much bigger in area than 3mp I've discovered
since upgrading from my DSC-P1 to the F707. If you want a decent
3mp image to be twice and high and twice as wide, we're waiting for
12mp cameras!

I have a couple of pictures that I have taken with my DSC-f707 that
we want to use at work for some AWARD presentations that we have.
Only need to find a Good place to Print them at.
Need a place that can Print 16x20 and larger with out costing an
arm and a Leg perfeable.
But will take quality over Price.
Thanks for any help you may have.
Todd

I heard ofoto is good.
wb

 

[Davelong8]

I use Genuine Fractals which is a Plug-in for Potoshop. This allows you to enlarge without losing quality. I enlarged a pic from a 3.1 mp camera and was very pleased with the results.

5mp really isn't that much bigger in area than 3mp I've discovered
since upgrading from my DSC-P1 to the F707. If you want a decent
3mp image to be twice and high and twice as wide, we're waiting for
12mp cameras!

I have a couple of pictures that I have taken with my DSC-f707 that
we want to use at work for some AWARD presentations that we have.
Only need to find a Good place to Print them at.
Need a place that can Print 16x20 and larger with out costing an
arm and a Leg perfeable.
But will take quality over Price.
Thanks for any help you may have.
Todd

I heard ofoto is good.
wb

 

[Bobbo]

The one parameter missing from this discussion is viewing distance. 20/20 vision has a resolution of one arc minute. Using an F707 resolution efficiency of 0.75 and assuming the image detail of interest is at the limit of F707's resolution (and that's a big if), these are the viewing distances that the image would be fully resolved. Viewing closer than these distances the softer the image would appear (empty magnification). Viewing further than these distances the image detail will not be fully resolved. Other factors that are hard to define are the typically over aggressive resampling anti-alaising routines the printing process uses that will blur fine detail and many images do not contain detail that's at the limit of a camera's resolution.

print (inches) / viewing distance (inches)
4x6 / 10.7
5x7 / 12.5
8x10 / 17.9
11x14 / 25.1
16x20 / 35.8
20x30 / 53.7

Bobbo

 

[Bobbo]

A slight correction is in order. I assumed the full width of the F707 image would be used to make the print. However, the aspect ratio of three print sizes are larger than the 3/4 F707 image. So, I'll assume the full height would be used for these prints. The corrected viewing distances that the image would be fully resolved.

print (inches) / viewing distance (inches)
8x10 / 19.1
11x14 / 26.3
16x20 / 38.2

Bobbo