Man arrested for photographing police activity receives settlement

[shay guevara]

che will be ticked if you don't learn to spell pinata, Dave

God will be ticked if you dont learn to spell Christian, Dave

And if dh is a woman, it'll be even more fun if I meet her when she
comes to USA again.

Can I bring my camera? This I would pay good money to see.

--
Shay son of Che

 

[lanef]

Exactly. If you have nothing to hide why the paranoia about photo taking. Only those who have the nostalgia of a police or Taliban state would find it unacceptable. My advice, move to Iran.

Fully support your view. Being a policeman is hard a job as it is, so
no need for harrassment by photographers. Looks like a light
settlement to me.
--

Some cops think they are on a power trip, and almost god like. Sadly.

They have a job to do, someone taking snaps doesnt interfere with
that at all. They are public servants, and should have no complaints
about being under the eye of the public.

--



Clint is on holiday! Soon to return! ;-)

--
If you like what I can do with cards, wait til you see what I do with
the limes.

 

[lanef]

The USA is a free country, getting a reasonable fine does not make it
unfree. There are other countries where you would end up with a
bullet in your head, but those are not often mentioned in the press.
Very easy to bash the US, lsomething I include in every post which
deals with anit-Americanism: thank you for liberating us, I will not
forget.

What a load of useless manure. So if you disagree with the government in place you are anti-American. Please drop your blinkers. If I disagree with my actual prime minister, it equates to: I am against my own country. Get a life.
You remind me of Don Quixote fighting the windmills.
-

Windmills, just do it.

 

[docpm9913]

That's just great... leave their power unchecked, unabated, no freedom of press eh? You're the type that would think that having civilian oveview groups would hinder/inhibit them from doing their job. Please. We are supposed to be living in a civilized democracy.

 

[WGArts2]

I know SF quite well, stayed there only recently (October-Fremont),
but you have some dubious characters there. Males are not a rolemodel
to put it poliltely.
For good people it can be a living hell I imagine.
Too bad we did not meet.
--

Hah - yeah it can be. Savage says it best about being here in San Fransicko and not being a whacked-out liberal.

Fremont's only about 45 mins drive from me. Next time, give a call.

Best wishes. Stay straight and tall.

Windmills, just do it.

 

[lanef]

These kind of answers are disappointing and frightening. We need
people who make a firm stance for old-fashioned values.

Your old-fashioned values sound like Taliban values to me.

May be the cops should be able to wack you in public for using your cameras while they are passing.

 

[lanef]

As a non-native speaker I sometimes miss the point and read what I
think is logical.
I thought the person who obstructed the police had to pay $8000 fine
to avoid going to jail. Now I understand he was rewarded for his
outrageous behaviour.
This pure madness, getting paid for doing wrong.
--
Windmills, just do it.

My goodness me, I am missing this point as well. I am disagreeing
with you maybe insofar as is is seeming the officers have acted
unwisely, but this person was being most unhelpful in the
circumstances. In India he would have been arrested for disturbing
the peace and being a public nuisance and a night in the local lock
up would have made him aware of his civic responsibilities. Simple
justice, but effective.

Police corruption is also not unknown overthere, so I am not surprised.
Those are standards I would not like to compare my country with.

 

[lanef]

As a non-native speaker I sometimes miss the point and read what I
think is logical.
I thought the person who obstructed the police had to pay $8000 fine
to avoid going to jail. Now I understand he was rewarded for his
outrageous behaviour.
This pure madness, getting paid for doing wrong.
--
Windmills, just do it.

My goodness me, I am missing this point as well. I am disagreeing
with you maybe insofar as is is seeming the officers have acted
unwisely, but this person was being most unhelpful in the
circumstances. In India he would have been arrested for disturbing
the peace and being a public nuisance and a night in the local lock
up would have made him aware of his civic responsibilities. Simple
justice, but effective.
--
Veejay Chatterjee (Mr)

Here you are, you must be so proud of that kind of police power.

http://www.hrw.org/reports/1996/India4.htm

No one in the US would want to have that.

 

[J00cy Juice]

The police in this country spent half the time they spend being jackasses and actually busted some real criminals...

 

[Doug J]

My goodness me, I am missing this point as well. I am disagreeing
with you maybe insofar as is is seeming the officers have acted
unwisely, but this person was being most unhelpful in the
circumstances.

Nonsense. There is nothing in the article to indicate the photog was being 'most unhelpful'. He was 10 feet away and simply took a few photos

In India he would have been arrested for disturbing
the peace and being a public nuisance and a night in the local lock
up would have made him aware of his civic responsibilities. Simple
justice, but effective.

You call this justice? In many countries in would be termed oppression. The police are generally hired and paid by the citizens, with oversight; their responsibility is to serve and protect and their power is not absolute, nor is it above the law. There should be open transparency and accountability, and the police should not have anything to hide.

--
Best regards,
Doug
http://pbase.com/dougj

http://thescambaiter.com
Fighting scammers WW for fun & justice

 

[tinternaut]

It is starting to look more and more like the old USSR.

I can only give the perspective of a Brit who seems to be spending too much time here at the moment.

The police are free to be a$$hats and the little people are mostly free to take them to court over it (and, unlike old Europe, often win). The lawyers here are mostly out for what they can get so they're more than happy with the way things are. In some ways, it's still an anything goes wild west mentality and that sometimes means standing up for yourself in situations you just wouldn't encounter back home. The real loosers here are often the very poor and the consequences for them can be lethal.

Fair enough, in the UK, we mostly expect to be treated fairly when we encounter the police for whatever reason, but the few who are wronged by them stand little chance in the courts (in fact, challenging an arrest in the UK is at best difficult) and I'm guessing it's the same in the rest of Old Europe.

--
Regards
J

 

[lanef]

Yes and burn more of their energy chasing drug lords. Could prove too hard for some. It is easier to act macho on a citizen with a camera than reducing drugs on our streets.

The police in this country spent half the time they spend being
jackasses and actually busted some real criminals...

 

[Cryptarcadian]

What? You do realise the settlement was awarded to the photographer, against the police force, right?

 

[veejay chatterjee]

As a non-native speaker I sometimes miss the point and read what I
think is logical.
I thought the person who obstructed the police had to pay $8000 fine
to avoid going to jail. Now I understand he was rewarded for his
outrageous behaviour.
This pure madness, getting paid for doing wrong.
--
Windmills, just do it.

My goodness me, I am missing this point as well. I am disagreeing
with you maybe insofar as is is seeming the officers have acted
unwisely, but this person was being most unhelpful in the
circumstances. In India he would have been arrested for disturbing
the peace and being a public nuisance and a night in the local lock
up would have made him aware of his civic responsibilities. Simple
justice, but effective.
--
Veejay Chatterjee (Mr)

Here you are, you must be so proud of that kind of police power.

http://www.hrw.org/reports/1996/India4.htm

No one in the US would want to have that.

Maybe you are preferring the police power in the USA that is beating Mr Rodney King in the streets of Los Angeles and similar. I am not claiming our police is perfect but ay least they are vigilant and arrest villains and malcontents.
Veejay Chatterjee (Mr)

 

[dh steffi]

You sound like a very intolerant person to me. --
Windmills, just do it.

 

[Charlie Self]

The USA is a free country, getting a reasonable fine does not make it
unfree. There are other countries where you would end up with a
bullet in your head, but those are not often mentioned in the press.
Very easy to bash the US, lsomething I include in every post which
deals with anit-Americanism: thank you for liberating us, I will not
forget.
--

The cops were the ones who were fined.

--
Charlie Self
http://www.charlieselfonline.com

 

[Charlie Self]

These kind of answers are disappointing and frightening. We need
people who make a firm stance for old-fashioned values.
--

If you're serious, and not trolling as I think you are, you had better be frightened. Apres Bush, we will return to most of our old fashioned values, which you seem totally unable to recognize.

Or is the John Birch Society alive and well?

--
Charlie Self
http://www.charlieselfonline.com

 

[lanef]

You sound like a very intolerant person to me. --
Windmills, just do it.

Your perception is back to front. Talking about intolerance, you are hopelessly trying to get me to wear your hat.

 

[Charlie Self]

As a non-native speaker I sometimes miss the point and read what I
think is logical.
I thought the person who obstructed the police had to pay $8000 fine
to avoid going to jail. Now I understand he was rewarded for his
outrageous behaviour.
This pure madness, getting paid for doing wrong.
--

Please. Stay behind your dikes.

--
Charlie Self
http://www.charlieselfonline.com

 

[lanef]

As a non-native speaker I sometimes miss the point and read what I
think is logical.
I thought the person who obstructed the police had to pay $8000 fine
to avoid going to jail. Now I understand he was rewarded for his
outrageous behaviour.
This pure madness, getting paid for doing wrong.
--
Windmills, just do it.

My goodness me, I am missing this point as well. I am disagreeing
with you maybe insofar as is is seeming the officers have acted
unwisely, but this person was being most unhelpful in the
circumstances. In India he would have been arrested for disturbing
the peace and being a public nuisance and a night in the local lock
up would have made him aware of his civic responsibilities. Simple
justice, but effective.
--
Veejay Chatterjee (Mr)

Here you are, you must be so proud of that kind of police power.

http://www.hrw.org/reports/1996/India4.htm

No one in the US would want to have that.

Maybe you are preferring the police power in the USA that is beating
Mr Rodney King in the streets of Los Angeles and similar.

I will let our friends from Los Angeles answer that.

I am not claiming our police is perfect but ay least they are vigilant and
arrest villains and malcontents.
Veejay Chatterjee (Mr)

Yes, but don’t forget cops are human beings like you and me and they are not infallible and must not think that they are above the law. Very often some think that wearing the uniform gives them a licence to dominate. That's why we need checks and balances to make sure they do not abuse power and break the law themselves. What is wrong with that?