XT2 Zoomed in Image Quality

[Foto Jay]

Hi! I have owned an Xt2 for a little over a year coming from a full frame Canon system. I have been super happy except one thing. Maybe I am going nuts but when I zoom in on an image it falls apart quality wise. Especially wider shots. I always view 1 to 1 in lightroom on a 27" I Mac and sometimes I zoom in a tad more to fix blemishes etc. The edges (not the edges of the picture, but the edges of the people or objects in them) just are more jagged, blotchy, very pixelated etc... More than I remember on my 5DIII. Is that just part of the APSC game? Once again, I am happy user but this has been bothering me. It would be kind of someone to post a picture or two for me to compare would be greatly appreciated. Of course the issue arrises more with the 18-55 kit lens then my others, but the issue is there with all my lens's, so I can rule out optics problems. Thanks in advance for any insights. I would like to put this to bed if I can. Like I said, I am super happy, but this has been on my mind the whole time from the very first shoot I did with it.

PS.... For what it is worth, I have tried all the raw converters to rule out lightroom messing with me I do use photoshop to sharpen, as I do notice lightroom sharpening does amplify the problem slightly.

 

[elfroggio]

I don't spend any time on the Canikon or Sony Boards. But serious question.... Do threads like this exist on those Boards? How are they tolerated?

I'm one of the moderator of the Canon 10d-80d forum. My policy is to allow any "complaint/trashing" of Canon as long as it doesn't degenerate into personal attacks...

Some people have been permanently banned (to my chagrin I will say) because of personal attacks (in spite of being extremely knowledgeable) and not knowing when to stop.

My personal point of view, the best is:

• If technical: I will keep on adding until there is no more technical "add". Final gong and end of story.
• If personal: it's a 3 round boxing match. I say something, somebody replies, I disagree with the reply and say my "stuff". Final gong and end of story.

 

[nikkor35f2]

I don't spend any time on the Canikon or Sony Boards. But serious question.... Do threads like this exist on those Boards? How are they tolerated?

I'm one of the moderator of the Canon 10d-80d forum. My policy is to allow any "complaint/trashing" of Canon as long as it doesn't degenerate into personal attacks...

Some people have been permanently banned (to my chagrin I will say) because of personal attacks (in spite of being extremely knowledgeable) and not knowing when to stop.

My personal point of view, the best is:

• If technical: I will keep on adding until there is no more technical "add". Final gong and end of story.
• If personal: it's a 3 round boxing match. I say something, somebody replies, I disagree with the reply and say my "stuff". Final gong and end of story.

 

[robert1955]

.... The only issue. I repeat only issue is the viewing images zoomed in on wider type shots no matter what lens I use. is my "insurmountable problems", then I guess, I bought into a fantastic system and I should no longer require any assistance within the Fuji shooting community.

I have asked this twice, and so have others: provide us with one or morecomplete images, including exif data. That is the only way a mutually useful discussion is possible. As it is, you seem only to take note of answers that fit your narrative

 

[NottsPhoto]

Yes Bob. You are right. I said this morning I was done with it, but then every hour or so get a notification that there is another response and I make the mistake and read it and don't have enough discipline to let it go because it is so ... so ... so ... well, you know, I can't say it or I will be accused of being mean. We all know this is one of the worst threads in DPR history and that it has to get locked.

Heresy will be suppressed!

But seriously, do you really see any actual contrary views here or any arguments that makes any sense? I don't.

there are no arguments taking place. Just someone trying to get better results.

It would be like me going onto the Canon board and telling them that their sensor sucks compared to X-Trans, that their resolution falls apart at 1:1 and that FF is inferior.

where does he say the sensor sucks?

But I don't do that. Why would anyone do that?

 

[robert1955]

Check hyperfocal distance at F5.6, and turn off OIS.

You have a double image - possibly shutter shock interacting with OIS.

Focus in wideangle shots is difficult. Any area of sufficient contrast is too small to register. Try F8, manual focus at about 10m, and it will look pretty sharp everywhere.

 

[Iuvenis]

I used to have a similar attitude to yours.

I remember spending a long time going back and forth with someone on a thread just like this. He posted some hopeless test shots, but when they were criticised said he had loads more shots that he wasn't going to post that showed the same thing, so it didn't matter. Despite saying he was a newbie and needed help, he then refused to listen to the advice he was given by more experienced users of the system, and identified with everyone who said it was a problem with his equipment and couldn't be sorted.

I criticised other people for being rude to him at first, but by the end, after patiently explaining with links and examples just why he was wrong, I was tearing my hair out with frustration. I don't to this day know if that person was a troll or just unreasonable and stubborn. You never do. However, I learnt my lesson.

Greg has a hot temper, and I don't defend everything he says, but I do feel his pain.

 

[NottsPhoto]

I used to have a similar attitude to yours.

I remember spending a long time going back and forth with someone on a thread just like this. He posted some hopeless test shots, but when they were criticised said he had loads more shots that he wasn't going to post that showed the same thing, so it didn't matter. Despite saying he was a newbie and needed help, he then refused to listen to the advice he was given by more experienced users of the system, and identified with everyone who said it was a problem with his equipment and couldn't be sorted.

I criticised other people for being rude to him at first, but by the end, after patiently explaining with links and examples just why he was wrong, I was tearing my hair out with frustration. I don't to this day know if that person was a troll or just unreasonable and stubborn. You never do. However, I learnt my lesson.

Greg has a hot temper, and I don't defend everything he says, but I do feel his pain.

No one is forcing anyone to reply to a thread. If Greg or anyone think a thread is a waste of time, he can ignore it.

Or he can be rude and make the entire forum into a place where people are afraid of seeking help or criticsm, and the only things posted are sycophantic fanboy ramblings.

And paradoxically to Greg’s thinking, thats the worst possible thing if you want Fuji to improve in the future.

After all, if all the feedback is fantastic, why change? If your perfect, why improve?

Surpressing and belittling critsicm and those seeking help is the antithesis of what lies at the heart of good photography.

 

[tdwesbo]

You: “I don’t like it when I do this thing”

Me: “Don’t do that thing”

In all seriousness, tho, there are some great points in this thread and I’m sure some of them have been useful.

 

[57even]

I used to have a similar attitude to yours.

I remember spending a long time going back and forth with someone on a thread just like this. He posted some hopeless test shots, but when they were criticised said he had loads more shots that he wasn't going to post that showed the same thing, so it didn't matter. Despite saying he was a newbie and needed help, he then refused to listen to the advice he was given by more experienced users of the system, and identified with everyone who said it was a problem with his equipment and couldn't be sorted.

I criticised other people for being rude to him at first, but by the end, after patiently explaining with links and examples just why he was wrong, I was tearing my hair out with frustration. I don't to this day know if that person was a troll or just unreasonable and stubborn. You never do. However, I learnt my lesson.

Greg has a hot temper, and I don't defend everything he says, but I do feel his pain.

No one is forcing anyone to reply to a thread. If Greg or anyone think a thread is a waste of time, he can ignore it.

Or he can be rude and make the entire forum into a place where people are afraid of seeking help or criticsm, and the only things posted are sycophantic fanboy ramblings.

And paradoxically to Greg’s thinking, thats the worst possible thing if you want Fuji to improve in the future.

After all, if all the feedback is fantastic, why change? If your perfect, why improve?

Surpressing and belittling critsicm and those seeking help is the antithesis of what lies at the heart of good photography.

 

[NottsPhoto]

I used to have a similar attitude to yours.

I remember spending a long time going back and forth with someone on a thread just like this. He posted some hopeless test shots, but when they were criticised said he had loads more shots that he wasn't going to post that showed the same thing, so it didn't matter. Despite saying he was a newbie and needed help, he then refused to listen to the advice he was given by more experienced users of the system, and identified with everyone who said it was a problem with his equipment and couldn't be sorted.

I criticised other people for being rude to him at first, but by the end, after patiently explaining with links and examples just why he was wrong, I was tearing my hair out with frustration. I don't to this day know if that person was a troll or just unreasonable and stubborn. You never do. However, I learnt my lesson.

Greg has a hot temper, and I don't defend everything he says, but I do feel his pain.

No one is forcing anyone to reply to a thread. If Greg or anyone think a thread is a waste of time, he can ignore it.

Or he can be rude and make the entire forum into a place where people are afraid of seeking help or criticsm, and the only things posted are sycophantic fanboy ramblings.

And paradoxically to Greg’s thinking, thats the worst possible thing if you want Fuji to improve in the future.

After all, if all the feedback is fantastic, why change? If your perfect, why improve?

Surpressing and belittling critsicm and those seeking help is the antithesis of what lies at the heart of good photography.

 

[57even]

I used to have a similar attitude to yours.

I remember spending a long time going back and forth with someone on a thread just like this. He posted some hopeless test shots, but when they were criticised said he had loads more shots that he wasn't going to post that showed the same thing, so it didn't matter. Despite saying he was a newbie and needed help, he then refused to listen to the advice he was given by more experienced users of the system, and identified with everyone who said it was a problem with his equipment and couldn't be sorted.

I criticised other people for being rude to him at first, but by the end, after patiently explaining with links and examples just why he was wrong, I was tearing my hair out with frustration. I don't to this day know if that person was a troll or just unreasonable and stubborn. You never do. However, I learnt my lesson.

Greg has a hot temper, and I don't defend everything he says, but I do feel his pain.

No one is forcing anyone to reply to a thread. If Greg or anyone think a thread is a waste of time, he can ignore it.

Or he can be rude and make the entire forum into a place where people are afraid of seeking help or criticsm, and the only things posted are sycophantic fanboy ramblings.

And paradoxically to Greg’s thinking, thats the worst possible thing if you want Fuji to improve in the future.

After all, if all the feedback is fantastic, why change? If your perfect, why improve?

Surpressing and belittling critsicm and those seeking help is the antithesis of what lies at the heart of good photography.

 

[NottsPhoto]

I used to have a similar attitude to yours.

I remember spending a long time going back and forth with someone on a thread just like this. He posted some hopeless test shots, but when they were criticised said he had loads more shots that he wasn't going to post that showed the same thing, so it didn't matter. Despite saying he was a newbie and needed help, he then refused to listen to the advice he was given by more experienced users of the system, and identified with everyone who said it was a problem with his equipment and couldn't be sorted.

I criticised other people for being rude to him at first, but by the end, after patiently explaining with links and examples just why he was wrong, I was tearing my hair out with frustration. I don't to this day know if that person was a troll or just unreasonable and stubborn. You never do. However, I learnt my lesson.

Greg has a hot temper, and I don't defend everything he says, but I do feel his pain.

No one is forcing anyone to reply to a thread. If Greg or anyone think a thread is a waste of time, he can ignore it.

Or he can be rude and make the entire forum into a place where people are afraid of seeking help or criticsm, and the only things posted are sycophantic fanboy ramblings.

And paradoxically to Greg’s thinking, thats the worst possible thing if you want Fuji to improve in the future.

After all, if all the feedback is fantastic, why change? If your perfect, why improve?

Surpressing and belittling critsicm and those seeking help is the antithesis of what lies at the heart of good photography.

 

[57even]

I used to have a similar attitude to yours.

I remember spending a long time going back and forth with someone on a thread just like this. He posted some hopeless test shots, but when they were criticised said he had loads more shots that he wasn't going to post that showed the same thing, so it didn't matter. Despite saying he was a newbie and needed help, he then refused to listen to the advice he was given by more experienced users of the system, and identified with everyone who said it was a problem with his equipment and couldn't be sorted.

I criticised other people for being rude to him at first, but by the end, after patiently explaining with links and examples just why he was wrong, I was tearing my hair out with frustration. I don't to this day know if that person was a troll or just unreasonable and stubborn. You never do. However, I learnt my lesson.

Greg has a hot temper, and I don't defend everything he says, but I do feel his pain.

No one is forcing anyone to reply to a thread. If Greg or anyone think a thread is a waste of time, he can ignore it.

Or he can be rude and make the entire forum into a place where people are afraid of seeking help or criticsm, and the only things posted are sycophantic fanboy ramblings.

And paradoxically to Greg’s thinking, thats the worst possible thing if you want Fuji to improve in the future.

After all, if all the feedback is fantastic, why change? If your perfect, why improve?

Surpressing and belittling critsicm and those seeking help is the antithesis of what lies at the heart of good photography.

 

[robert1955]

I used to have a similar attitude to yours.

I remember spending a long time going back and forth with someone on a thread just like this. He posted some hopeless test shots, but when they were criticised said he had loads more shots that he wasn't going to post that showed the same thing, so it didn't matter. Despite saying he was a newbie and needed help, he then refused to listen to the advice he was given by more experienced users of the system, and identified with everyone who said it was a problem with his equipment and couldn't be sorted.

I criticised other people for being rude to him at first, but by the end, after patiently explaining with links and examples just why he was wrong, I was tearing my hair out with frustration. I don't to this day know if that person was a troll or just unreasonable and stubborn. You never do. However, I learnt my lesson.

Greg has a hot temper, and I don't defend everything he says, but I do feel his pain.

No one is forcing anyone to reply to a thread. If Greg or anyone think a thread is a waste of time, he can ignore it.

Or he can be rude and make the entire forum into a place where people are afraid of seeking help or criticsm, and the only things posted are sycophantic fanboy ramblings.

And paradoxically to Greg’s thinking, thats the worst possible thing if you want Fuji to improve in the future.

After all, if all the feedback is fantastic, why change? If your perfect, why improve?

Surpressing and belittling critsicm and those seeking help is the antithesis of what lies at the heart of good photography.

By the time Greg got angry, the OP had been asked several times to not just tell what he felt was wrong, but to illustrate it. He never did.
I'm not saying that his intent was to troll, but he certainly did not try to participate in an open discussion. So, should we let that pass, or can we say that we -having seen no indication otherwise- think his criticism fails?

 

[NottsPhoto]

I used to have a similar attitude to yours.

I remember spending a long time going back and forth with someone on a thread just like this. He posted some hopeless test shots, but when they were criticised said he had loads more shots that he wasn't going to post that showed the same thing, so it didn't matter. Despite saying he was a newbie and needed help, he then refused to listen to the advice he was given by more experienced users of the system, and identified with everyone who said it was a problem with his equipment and couldn't be sorted.

I criticised other people for being rude to him at first, but by the end, after patiently explaining with links and examples just why he was wrong, I was tearing my hair out with frustration. I don't to this day know if that person was a troll or just unreasonable and stubborn. You never do. However, I learnt my lesson.

Greg has a hot temper, and I don't defend everything he says, but I do feel his pain.

No one is forcing anyone to reply to a thread. If Greg or anyone think a thread is a waste of time, he can ignore it.

Or he can be rude and make the entire forum into a place where people are afraid of seeking help or criticsm, and the only things posted are sycophantic fanboy ramblings.

And paradoxically to Greg’s thinking, thats the worst possible thing if you want Fuji to improve in the future.

After all, if all the feedback is fantastic, why change? If your perfect, why improve?

Surpressing and belittling critsicm and those seeking help is the antithesis of what lies at the heart of good photography.

By the time Greg got angry, the OP had been asked several times to not just tell what he felt was wrong, but to illustrate it. He never did.
I'm not saying that his intent was to troll, but he certainly did not try to participate in an open discussion. So, should we let that pass, or can we say that we -having seen no indication otherwise- think his criticism fails?

There was no critiscm, there was a request for help. Your falling into the trap of reading more than was actually said.

as I said above, no ones forcing you to reply. If you think he’s a troll, don’t feed him.

 

[NottsPhoto]

I used to have a similar attitude to yours.

I remember spending a long time going back and forth with someone on a thread just like this. He posted some hopeless test shots, but when they were criticised said he had loads more shots that he wasn't going to post that showed the same thing, so it didn't matter. Despite saying he was a newbie and needed help, he then refused to listen to the advice he was given by more experienced users of the system, and identified with everyone who said it was a problem with his equipment and couldn't be sorted.

I criticised other people for being rude to him at first, but by the end, after patiently explaining with links and examples just why he was wrong, I was tearing my hair out with frustration. I don't to this day know if that person was a troll or just unreasonable and stubborn. You never do. However, I learnt my lesson.

Greg has a hot temper, and I don't defend everything he says, but I do feel his pain.

No one is forcing anyone to reply to a thread. If Greg or anyone think a thread is a waste of time, he can ignore it.

Or he can be rude and make the entire forum into a place where people are afraid of seeking help or criticsm, and the only things posted are sycophantic fanboy ramblings.

And paradoxically to Greg’s thinking, thats the worst possible thing if you want Fuji to improve in the future.

After all, if all the feedback is fantastic, why change? If your perfect, why improve?

Surpressing and belittling critsicm and those seeking help is the antithesis of what lies at the heart of good photography.

 

[robert1955]

I used to have a similar attitude to yours.

I remember spending a long time going back and forth with someone on a thread just like this. He posted some hopeless test shots, but when they were criticised said he had loads more shots that he wasn't going to post that showed the same thing, so it didn't matter. Despite saying he was a newbie and needed help, he then refused to listen to the advice he was given by more experienced users of the system, and identified with everyone who said it was a problem with his equipment and couldn't be sorted.

I criticised other people for being rude to him at first, but by the end, after patiently explaining with links and examples just why he was wrong, I was tearing my hair out with frustration. I don't to this day know if that person was a troll or just unreasonable and stubborn. You never do. However, I learnt my lesson.

Greg has a hot temper, and I don't defend everything he says, but I do feel his pain.

No one is forcing anyone to reply to a thread. If Greg or anyone think a thread is a waste of time, he can ignore it.

Or he can be rude and make the entire forum into a place where people are afraid of seeking help or criticsm, and the only things posted are sycophantic fanboy ramblings.

And paradoxically to Greg’s thinking, thats the worst possible thing if you want Fuji to improve in the future.

After all, if all the feedback is fantastic, why change? If your perfect, why improve?

Surpressing and belittling critsicm and those seeking help is the antithesis of what lies at the heart of good photography.

By the time Greg got angry, the OP had been asked several times to not just tell what he felt was wrong, but to illustrate it. He never did.
I'm not saying that his intent was to troll, but he certainly did not try to participate in an open discussion. So, should we let that pass, or can we say that we -having seen no indication otherwise- think his criticism fails?

There was no critiscm, there was a request for help. Your falling into the trap of reading more than was actually said.

It makes no difference because the 'request for help' (which may would read as criticism) still had the same problem. It was telling of a perceived problem without illustrating. As you know, I've asked for that several times. So have others

as I said above, no ones forcing you to reply.

No, OTOH. if no-one replies, it can and will be taken as unchallenged truth

If you think he’s a troll, don’t feed him.

I just said I did not think he is a troll. Why do you suggest I did? I do say he was not open to discussion.

 

[NottsPhoto]

I used to have a similar attitude to yours.

I remember spending a long time going back and forth with someone on a thread just like this. He posted some hopeless test shots, but when they were criticised said he had loads more shots that he wasn't going to post that showed the same thing, so it didn't matter. Despite saying he was a newbie and needed help, he then refused to listen to the advice he was given by more experienced users of the system, and identified with everyone who said it was a problem with his equipment and couldn't be sorted.

I criticised other people for being rude to him at first, but by the end, after patiently explaining with links and examples just why he was wrong, I was tearing my hair out with frustration. I don't to this day know if that person was a troll or just unreasonable and stubborn. You never do. However, I learnt my lesson.

Greg has a hot temper, and I don't defend everything he says, but I do feel his pain.

No one is forcing anyone to reply to a thread. If Greg or anyone think a thread is a waste of time, he can ignore it.

Or he can be rude and make the entire forum into a place where people are afraid of seeking help or criticsm, and the only things posted are sycophantic fanboy ramblings.

And paradoxically to Greg’s thinking, thats the worst possible thing if you want Fuji to improve in the future.

After all, if all the feedback is fantastic, why change? If your perfect, why improve?

Surpressing and belittling critsicm and those seeking help is the antithesis of what lies at the heart of good photography.

By the time Greg got angry, the OP had been asked several times to not just tell what he felt was wrong, but to illustrate it. He never did.
I'm not saying that his intent was to troll, but he certainly did not try to participate in an open discussion. So, should we let that pass, or can we say that we -having seen no indication otherwise- think his criticism fails?

There was no critiscm, there was a request for help. Your falling into the trap of reading more than was actually said.

It makes no difference because the 'request for help' (which may would read as criticism) still had the same problem. It was telling of a perceived problem without illustrating. As you know, I've asked for that several times. So have others

you Need to go back and read his posts, because he posted extensively and seriously and in good humour on this thread, and I felt it was an entirely reasonable series of posts on his behalf discussing his problem and going to great pains to also talk about how happy he was with the system.

After the reception he got from Greg I doubt he will ever post another question again... and you can sure bet that others won’t either.

as I said above, no ones forcing you to reply.

No, OTOH. if no-one replies, it can and will be taken as unchallenged truth

frankly, don’t talk bo******. If you think anything written here is somehow canon, Well your delusional.

If you think he’s a troll, don’t feed him.

I just said I did not think he is a troll. Why do you suggest I did? I do say he was not open to discussion.

He made shed loads of posts, all reasonable and with good humour, only to be slammed by some amateur holiday snapper With a chip on his shoulder the size of Florida

this forum is the worst example of any forum I’ve contributed to for bullying and fanboys. I’ve got 35 years in this business, I’ve been extensively published around the world and continue to work full time for major brands as a photographer and creative director, and I sure wouldn’t post material for critique here, because I know that basically I will be treated as some sort of idiot.

And If someone like me won’t, what hope do the newbies have?

there are major barriers to Fuji going from a problem child to a star... but they sure ain’t gonna hear what those problems are, or any solutions, in this place, because this place is utterly hostile to any discussions around those problems.

 

[Greg7579]

Notts, so you think Fuji is a "problem child". OK. Good to know. Explains a lot.

 

[Jerry-astro]

this forum is the worst example of any forum I’ve contributed to for bullying and fanboys. I’ve got 35 years in this business, I’ve been extensively published around the world and continue to work full time for major brands as a photographer and creative director, and I sure wouldn’t post material for critique here, because I know that basically I will be treated as some sort of idiot.

And If someone like me won’t, what hope do the newbies have?

there are major barriers to Fuji going from a problem child to a star... but they sure ain’t gonna hear what those problems are, or any solutions, in this place, because this place is utterly hostile to any discussions around those problems.

I'm afraid this begs the question of why you hang around here at all with that sort of 'tude. It's a free forum, but if you see it that negatively, why bother?