XT2 vs Gfx

[SkvLTD]

Battle of the bokeh and mp. D810 vs 5dS vs Gfx, period.

 

[DarnGoodPhotos]

If you look at the top of the Mas Portell bottle, the GFX is sharper, has better detail in the fabric, and lower noise. Visibly superior.

 

[Advent1sam]

For 50mp vs 24mp, the difference should be huge, its actually very small, only reason can be xtrans vs bayer.

Bayer does ok but for a sensor this big, i'f expect to see a difference, not at 100% 10ft equivalence and even then the gfx has the 4:3 zoomed advantage as well, hmmmmmmmm.

a draw, rt 5.1 can produce slightly bright images, gfx contrast is causing the confusion

preference here is for xt2, ouch!

gfx is better here, but we are talking 10ft image equivalent to see it, yikes!

Unbelievable resolution from xtrans 24 again

There is an edge in the red, but again, incredible xt2!

XT2 a mighty, mighty xtrans 24 wonder camera

I prefer the XT2, size, flexibility and better iq, well it depends!

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xt2, 54mp image, to compensate for lack of width in gfx image

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zoomed in look for gfx, not to everyones taste!

Not a lot in it, surprisingly.

 

[DarnGoodPhotos]

Man, look how soft the proportion wheel is on the X-T2. Just meh by comparison.

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[Matpan]

What "much more" do you expect?
As you climb in the technology ladder the gain you see for each buck you invest is reduced.
The difference between a 100 dollar camera and a 1000 dollar one will be much bigger than the difference between a 1000 and a 10000... and so on. When you start reaching the higher tiers you start paying a high premium for every small increase in quality delivered.
The difference IS there. You may not benefit from it, but a working pro, printing in big formats will. Same as a someone looking to reduce noise and gain relative detail by compressing sizes... The benefits to the bigger camera are obvious. But hey, can´t argue with a monologue.

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[Toilet Roll]

There is not a lot in it between xt2 and xt1 either.

 

[NaughtKen]

Attention Seeking Behaviour

 

[walie007]

Looking at the x-t2 examples, i see no reason to upgrade from my x-t1, the image quality of both are very comparable. Can you do your magic upsizing voodoo on x-t1 pics to compare them for me?

 

[DarnGoodPhotos]

Looking at the x-t2 examples, i see no reason to upgrade from my x-t1, the image quality of both are very comparable. Can you do your magic upsizing voodoo on x-t1 pics to compare them for me?

All the arguments he used to justify the T2 over the GFX directly apply to the T1 over the T2.

 

[seanf64]

Interesting comparison ;

Would the low shutter speed used on the GFX `soften` the image. Sure there is some tech voodoo about shutter speeds and LF/MF cameras?

 

[walie007]

Exactly.

 

[seanf64]

Interesting comparison ;

Would the low shutter speed used on the GFX `soften` the image. Sure there is some tech voodoo about shutter speeds and LF/MF cameras?

 

[Advent1sam]

Man, look how soft the proportion wheel is on the X-T2. Just meh by comparison.

 

[Advent1sam]

What "much more" do you expect?
As you climb in the technology ladder the gain you see for each buck you invest is reduced.
The difference between a 100 dollar camera and a 1000 dollar one will be much bigger than the difference between a 1000 and a 10000... and so on. When you start reaching the higher tiers you start paying a high premium for every small increase in quality delivered.
The difference IS there. You may not benefit from it, but a working pro, printing in big formats will. Same as a someone looking to reduce noise and gain relative detail by compressing sizes... The benefits to the bigger camera are obvious. But hey, can´t argue with a monologue.

 

[Advent1sam]

Interesting comparison ;

Would the low shutter speed used on the GFX `soften` the image. Sure there is some tech voodoo about shutter speeds and LF/MF cameras?

For definite, low shutter speeds and high iso's are a necessity with this format, I think it would be a devil to work with and Fuji might of been a whole lot wiser to go FF, preferably with an xtrans sensor, 36 would of been suffice. Lens would of been adaptable between bodies and the iq and capability would of been better than what we are seeing with the gfx, huge missed opportunity.

 

[Advent1sam]

Attention Seeking Behaviour

If you don't find this interesting then, you don't find it interesting, no need to pass sarcastic comments, stay cool man its just for info

 

[Advent1sam]

Battle of the bokeh and mp. D810 vs 5dS vs Gfx, period.

There is some very nice glass for x series too and most don't need these huge bodies and lens to achieve it!

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Sensors capture and render that light, so best sensor always wins despite glass outlasting the sensors.

 

[Advent1sam]

a 6.5k Medium Format Camera vs a 1.2k APS-C camera... the result is obvious.

Image has more resolution straight out of camera, to begin with, 8256 x 6192 vs 6000x4000. that is a LOT more pixels. Bigger sensor size also implies more total light gather for the same exposure, lower ISO, less total noise. Images will and DO look sharper and more detailed.

Micro contrast looks better, color rendition looks nicer and richer in general. Everything about the bigger camera says: This is a more capable tool.

There is nothing in the first picture that is better than in the second one, by no stretch of the criteria. Not even equal... the Medium format image is superior in every aspect. Ans while you may say, Hey, but those criteria are very subjective... I can assure you than out of 1000 people you may ask about these upwards of 950 will choose the GFx image.

I am as happy a owner of an X-T2 as one can be, an amazingly capable tool which is by no means a slouch and I feel is no compromise for what it offers. It can handle a professional shooting for sure. Not because I say so (I am merely a learning aficionado) but because I know a couple of working pros that use it and are happy with it, apart from the plethora of pros that attest to it´s capabilities online.

But to try and equate what an XT-2 can do to what a GFx 50s can is nonsensical. These are two different tools with two different goals in mind.
You have answered to every comment that differs from your opinion with yet another comeback trying to refutem which leads me to think you are heavily biased. From this it is possible to deduce you either own an XT2 and need to justify your purchase (as many a people do given any choice), or are looking to get one and need reassurance in your almost set decision.
There is no part in the fact that a Medium format, more expensive and capable of delivering more sophisticated images camera, which makes the XT2 a less valuable and awesome piece of hardware.
I would be thrilled to own an Audi R4, but I wouldn´t go saying, this is better than a ferrari F50...

Impossible to know without equivalent shots, the gfx is much bigger in the 4:3 frame than xt2, I think the xt2 will outperform the gfx in 99% of shots and when presented on-line will be impossible to tell. For print, xt2 will match gfx too no doubt about it, none!

It is impossible for the T2 to out-perform the GFX in any shot in the same way that it is impossible for a m4/3 sensor to outperform a Sony full frame sensor. The best it can do is perform equally.

That is actually close to the point to be honest, I actually don't believe anything really changes until 80-100mp! It appears that even 42 and 50 are marginal, 60 might have some advantage and then 80-100 definitely. But MF I can see being a real problem all round, its definitely a niche and Fuji might of been wiser to FF and 36mp xtrans, that would get close to 60mp std bayer MF imo and the lens but of been adaptable between formats. They are now designing for 2 unique platforms, we are seeing a huge drop in new lens for x series, really disappointing because of this.

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[JesseC]

Mate the difference between the two is that big it isn't funny. The GFX is miles in front, more clarity, more definition, sharper and miles more detail.

 

[John Motts]

I prefer the XT2, size, flexibility and better iq, well it depends!

The X-T2 has better IQ? Are you serious?