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Would you switch?
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I'm already liking the sound and PRICE of the new Nikon D2x.
(It would just suck having to sell all my Canon lenses)
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WVJoe
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I really, really like the idea of a FF/larger sensor. It doesn't appear at this time that Nikon is heading in that direction, but one never knows for sure. It used to be with film that the body was not quite as important as the glass in producing the image, but with digital, the sensor and thus the body takes on much greater significance. With film you kept a body for a long time. With digital though, every six months something new is coming.
That's where I am at now...deciding whether the technology provides enough advatage to make the painful switch worthwhile. Thanks for asking 'Ti X' and have a happy holiday!
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Phileas Fogg
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Ti X,
In overall reality all those brands offer suitable technology for most shooters. I suggest that one marries into a brand based on personal subjective reasons. Images can be made from any of these brands' better cameras and if not labled as such , you nor I would be able to tell one from the other in most cases.
No one brand holds such a leap in technology that it is clearly above all others. Every D-SLR today is capable of making stunning images. The 1DSmkII may have a technological edge in terms of resolution etc., but in reality the D2X will make as nice of images. The D-70 may offer a few more things than a 300D or *ist-d, but in reality you would not see any difference.
Again marry into a brand that you are comfortable with and of course your personal biases will play a roll. I've shot professionally for years Canon 35mm. I loved my T-90 among others, I am biased towards Canon. I know it is a brand that is top notch, I bought a 10D as my first D-SLR and did so thinking it was the bst model for my tastes, and ways I'll use it. But I bought an Oly E-10 as a backup for reasons of value to peformance. If had lived with Nikon or Pentax etc. for years , I'd probably have stuck with those brands. I know they will make as nice pics overall as any Canon. But my personl bias and subjective feelings to how a camera fits my hand, style and tastes, kept me to Canon. I likely will never change now, but being free person may one day. But no reason will be based on some subjective idea that one brand is so much better technologically over the others, but my change would fall back to a subjective and emotional reason.
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In overall reality all those brands offer suitable technology for most shooters. I suggest that one marries into a brand based on personal subjective reasons. Images can be made from any of these brands' better cameras and if not labled as such , you nor I would be able to tell one from the other in most cases.
No one brand holds such a leap in technology that it is clearly above all others. Every D-SLR today is capable of making stunning images. The 1DSmkII may have a technological edge in terms of resolution etc., but in reality the D2X will make as nice of images. The D-70 may offer a few more things than a 300D or *ist-d, but in reality you would not see any difference.
Again marry into a brand that you are comfortable with and of course your personal biases will play a roll. I've shot professionally for years Canon 35mm. I loved my T-90 among others, I am biased towards Canon. I know it is a brand that is top notch, I bought a 10D as my first D-SLR and did so thinking it was the bst model for my tastes, and ways I'll use it. But I bought an Oly E-10 as a backup for reasons of value to peformance. If had lived with Nikon or Pentax etc. for years , I'd probably have stuck with those brands. I know they will make as nice pics overall as any Canon. But my personl bias and subjective feelings to how a camera fits my hand, style and tastes, kept me to Canon. I likely will never change now, but being free person may one day. But no reason will be based on some subjective idea that one brand is so much better technologically over the others, but my change would fall back to a subjective and emotional reason.
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KTanaka
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Hey, that same kid lives in me, too, Joe.
But to respond to your original question more directly, at this point I could not envision switching brands (in my case Canon to, say Nikon). I've been a Canon shooter nearly exclusively since 1974. Today I have several bodies and a substantial inventory of Canon glass. I've reached digital photography equipment nirvana and do not foresee making a change in 35mm/SLR brands for the rest of my photo life (which will probably not be as long as most other folks here).
I could, however, envision adopting a new brand for a different format. In fact, I'm buying a lightly-used Leica M6 from a close friend next month.
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But to respond to your original question more directly, at this point I could not envision switching brands (in my case Canon to, say Nikon). I've been a Canon shooter nearly exclusively since 1974. Today I have several bodies and a substantial inventory of Canon glass. I've reached digital photography equipment nirvana and do not foresee making a change in 35mm/SLR brands for the rest of my photo life (which will probably not be as long as most other folks here).
I could, however, envision adopting a new brand for a different format. In fact, I'm buying a lightly-used Leica M6 from a close friend next month.
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davisea
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I shot Nikon for over 30 years. In that time, I also had an assortment of medium format cameras. When I decided to go all digital, I had Nikon FA, Rollei 6006, and Horseman 6X9.
I put my stuff on eBay and got enough to buy whatever I wanted. I decided to go Canon and got a 10D, half a dozen lenses, and even went to Kirk and Gitzo for tripods.
At this point, I'm quite happy with Canon. I've upgraded to the 1D and the 1Ds, and think their stuff is great. However, looking back, I'm not convinced that staying Nikon wouldn't have been just as good.
You might get a Nikon digital body and try that with your existing lenses. They really don't even have to be auto focus. In digital, you need only to shoot, look and adjust.
I have a friend who is a professional photographer shooting Nikon digital. I sold my stuff without talking to him, thinking the lenses would be incompatible. He was bummed when he found I'd sold my 105 F4 micro, and told me he always wanted one. When I told him it would mount but not meter on his camera, he said he hadn't used a meter in three years.
I second the comments on your photos. Great stuff.
Ed
I put my stuff on eBay and got enough to buy whatever I wanted. I decided to go Canon and got a 10D, half a dozen lenses, and even went to Kirk and Gitzo for tripods.
At this point, I'm quite happy with Canon. I've upgraded to the 1D and the 1Ds, and think their stuff is great. However, looking back, I'm not convinced that staying Nikon wouldn't have been just as good.
You might get a Nikon digital body and try that with your existing lenses. They really don't even have to be auto focus. In digital, you need only to shoot, look and adjust.
I have a friend who is a professional photographer shooting Nikon digital. I sold my stuff without talking to him, thinking the lenses would be incompatible. He was bummed when he found I'd sold my 105 F4 micro, and told me he always wanted one. When I told him it would mount but not meter on his camera, he said he hadn't used a meter in three years.
I second the comments on your photos. Great stuff.
Ed
DD2.1
Senior Member
Probably not likely since Nikon owners have been switching over to Canon for years now to get better technology. All the other manufacturers have one thing or another that is interesting or novel (Nikon wireless, Minolta in-body IS) but none of them provide an entire line of outstanding pro and consumer cameras that lead every category for best performance. Gimmicks like body IS and wireless are nice but I think the chance that any competitor will field the likes of the 1DsII, 1DII, 20D and dRebel at the same time is highly unlikely.
I will immediately setup a shrine to these models and revolve my schedule around constant prayer to them. Thank you Canon for lightening my heart - I am FOREVER in you service...
Tim Chakravorty
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Not all of them have yet, but its going to happen some time in the future. The mass exodus to Canon will continue with Nikon ending up serving just a niche market ( I know of at least one person (?) who might join in)
And when the D3 finally hits the shelves in late 2008(after a mid 2006 announcement), you will see die hard Nikonians going out in droves to buy the 16MP, 1/1.8" ccd, ISOmax 400 camera !
AceVentura1962
Leading Member
First off, I highly doubt "all" Nikon users will switch. For that to happen, their product would have to be complete junk. Speaking as a Canon user, I've held and shot their cameras -- they're not junk. Nikon will still be around it's just a question of how strong a presence they'll be.
You know, you really should want them to be strong and robust. The only things that keeps Canon honest are the Nikon, Fuji and Olympus. Frankly, I already think that Canon's lead is too great for Canon's own good. Complacency is bound to set in.
Ace, you are absolutely right. However, does Timmys ranting(s) suggest he is capable of comprehending this?
Malcolm101962
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They add up to way more than a new 1Ds MK2
And besides, I'm pretty satisfied right now.
Malcolm
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And besides, I'm pretty satisfied right now.
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AceVentura1962
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Ya know, I really shoulda listened to you further up the post. He is ranting, isn't he?
Steven Noyes
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With AS tech, I think they have a huge advantage that many of the other don't. Put that in 9D body + 12MP or so, and it would be very tempting. Some months before the D2X was announced there was a rumor about a 9D class KM camera sporting a 12MP CMOS sensor. At the time, I thought it was rubbish but then the D2X 12MP Sensor was announced.....
Nikon has nothing worth switching to (or away from with the D2H @
One of the aspects I like on Canon is that the Cameras fit like a well formed glove and I am very used to all of the controls. In short, the ergonomics rock for me.
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Nikon has nothing worth switching to (or away from with the D2H @
One of the aspects I like on Canon is that the Cameras fit like a well formed glove and I am very used to all of the controls. In short, the ergonomics rock for me.
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Tim Chakravorty
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Canon trumps every other brand in image quality. Period.
Teski
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For me to sell off my lenses at this point. Yes, the camera bodies come and go, but the lenses are a real investment. Someone else would have to have a really compelling story for me to switch at this point, and I'd have to be discontent with Canon's business/technology path.
Teski
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... it would be interesting to dig up this thread and see what really happened. Don't know if Phil Askey and Co. will even be around in 10 years....
WE may not be around in 10 years... mortality rates being what they are, and the demographics of posters being what they are (male, middle age or older), chances are good that > 10% of the people participating on this forum (or the Nikon forum) will be DEAD in 10 years!
Thought I'd put some of this stuff in perspective
-gt
PS Of course I'd switch. More likely just add another toy to the stable. Thinking of doing that right now, with either a *istDs (for the pocket carry) or the S3 (because digital cameras look too digital to me and I'd like to find one that reminds me of film...)
WE may not be around in 10 years... mortality rates being what they are, and the demographics of posters being what they are (male, middle age or older), chances are good that > 10% of the people participating on this forum (or the Nikon forum) will be DEAD in 10 years!
Thought I'd put some of this stuff in perspective
-gt
PS Of course I'd switch. More likely just add another toy to the stable. Thinking of doing that right now, with either a *istDs (for the pocket carry) or the S3 (because digital cameras look too digital to me and I'd like to find one that reminds me of film...)
Paul Stout
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It would take a whole lot of changes before I would consider switching. My 100-400 IS is my primary lens and Nikon doesn't have anything in that category that would replace it. Their 80-400 is to slow at focusing and the 200-400 is way too heavy.
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