Would good 10D owner upgrade the firmware?

[K Lam]

Since many beleive it's not fixing any issue reported here. All reported issue are in the user mind anyway.

 

[GBear]

K Lam wrote:
willie408
'Violence never settled anything' - Genghis Khan

 

[Juli Valley]

Just wait a few days. Canon will say what the fix is about I believe. Wait awhile and see what people report about their upgrade.

 

[jetmos]

Don't fix your camera if it is working good!!!

Since many beleive it's not fixing any issue reported here. All
reported issue are in the user mind anyway.

 

[Wismie]

Since many beleive it's not fixing any issue reported here. All
reported issue are in the user mind anyway.

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[The Raven]

1. I'll just wait and see what the firmware update addresses when it's released and make my decision then. That seems like the logical thing to do, IMHO.

2. This seems like you're just creating another opportunity to bash the 10D and/or those who don't have any "issues" with it. ;-)

 

[K Lam]

1. I'll just wait and see what the firmware update addresses when
it's released and make my decision then. That seems like the
logical thing to do, IMHO.
2. This seems like you're just creating another opportunity to
bash the 10D and/or those who don't have any "issues" with it. ;-)

 

[Pips]

I had a good D60 that I upgraded and also did an upgrade to my D30there was never any issue Canon appeared to have fully tested the firmware and the install went without a hitch. Unlike Microsoft I believe Canon do a good job in that department.

Since many beleive it's not fixing any issue reported here. All
reported issue are in the user mind anyway.

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Pips

 

[K Lam]

Another thing that don't get is that, what is the freaking point for releasing a firmware if there are no problem with 10D? Are you telling me they are just a placebo?

It's look like to me you're logic for reason is this. My unit is working perfectly and thus every body else are wrong.

Like, I asked you many time show me a picture that you have taken with your 10D with which you consider you archieved a decent focus. So, I can judge what you consider is corect or incorrect focusing.

1. I'll just wait and see what the firmware update addresses when
it's released and make my decision then. That seems like the
logical thing to do, IMHO.
2. This seems like you're just creating another opportunity to
bash the 10D and/or those who don't have any "issues" with it. ;-)

 

[K Lam]

The incompatibility are very rare if any at all, since there aren't that many thing you can add to camera body.

Since many beleive it's not fixing any issue reported here. All
reported issue are in the user mind anyway.

--
Pips

 

[The Raven]

Just look at your initial comments. First of all, you're coming across like the firmware update HAS to be fixing a serious problem when you don't really know WHAT the heck it addresses. Secondly, you're still whining about people not believing there ARE any problems with the whole 10D line. You still can't or won't concieve the idea that not ALL 10Ds are defective and if anyone doesn't have a problem with theirs and says so or even suggests that it COULD be user error, you seem to take that as a direct assault on your credibility.

 

[The Raven]

Another thing that don't get is that, what is the freaking point
for releasing a firmware if there are no problem with 10D? Are you
telling me they are just a placebo?

It COULD be an ehancement rather than a "fix". It could be to correct a misspelling or anything of that nature. It doesn't HAVE to be for correcting a "serious" problem. Why don't you just hang in there and see what the update does before you go off half-**** with assumptions?

It's look like to me you're logic for reason is this. My unit is
working perfectly and thus every body else are wrong.

Dead wrong, Kevin, and I've never said that. In fact, I have stated (sigh) MANY times that there are defective units out there. What do you expect, Kevin? Perfection in mass production? C'mon. However, you HAVE said that if one unit is defective then they all should be because they're mass-produced. I don't think you'll ever see that kind of consistency.

Like, I asked you many time show me a picture that you have taken
with your 10D with which you consider you archieved a decent focus.
So, I can judge what you consider is corect or incorrect focusing.

I have been showing my pictures and you can do a search on my profle if you wish to see them. I don't feel the need to submit anything for your "judgement" but I will leave you with this one...

 

[K Lam]

I'm in the software business and I know when you release a patch they are for addressing major vissible issues not a minor one with which most user don't realy care.

What do think Canon service department receive most complaint about? FF and BF issues.

May it's the otherway around, you can't conceived that Canon F*k up since this a perfect world.

I don't take it's as an assult since you show very little in the ability of critical thinking. I just find that you're annoying.

Just look at your initial comments. First of all, you're coming
across like the firmware update HAS to be fixing a serious problem
when you don't really know WHAT the heck it addresses. Secondly,
you're still whining about people not believing there ARE any
problems with the whole 10D line. You still can't or won't concieve
the idea that not ALL 10Ds are defective and if anyone doesn't have
a problem with theirs and says so or even suggests that it COULD be
user error, you seem to take that as a direct assault on your
credibility.

 

[The Raven]

I'm in the software business and I know when you release a patch
they are for addressing major vissible issues not a minor one with
which most user don't realy care.

OK.... You're obviously an expert on everything then.

What do think Canon service department receive most complaint
about? FF and BF issues.

I don't know and neither do you. The difference is that you THINK you know and that makes it a fact.

May it's the otherway around, you can't conceived that Canon F*k up
since this a perfect world.

Wow... you've got me pegged. You're simply amazing. ;-)

I don't take it's as an assult since you show very little in the
ability of critical thinking. I just find that you're annoying.

Ouch. ;-)

 

[K Lam]

It's look like to me you're logic for reason is this. My unit is
working perfectly and thus every body else are wrong.

Dead wrong, Kevin, and I've never said that. In fact, I have stated
(sigh) MANY times that there are defective units out there. What do
you expect, Kevin? Perfection in mass production? C'mon. However,
you HAVE said that if one unit is defective then they all should be
because they're mass-produced. I don't think you'll ever see that
kind of consistency.

That's what I'm saying. In mass production you have to readjust retooling or whatever to so that thing will be in spec. If some ware in the line the adjustment is wrong then you get a bad batch. I don't think it's that difficult for you to understand.

Like, I asked you many time show me a picture that you have taken
with your 10D with which you consider you archieved a decent focus.
So, I can judge what you consider is corect or incorrect focusing.

I have been showing my pictures and you can do a search on my
profle if you wish to see them. I don't feel the need to submit
anything for your "judgement" but I will leave you with this one...

Can you share the galleries instead of one of thousand shot? EXIF? Lens used?

 

[K Lam]

I'm in the software business and I know when you release a patch
they are for addressing major vissible issues not a minor one with
which most user don't realy care.

OK.... You're obviously an expert on everything then.

What is the financial gain for Canon for releasing a firmware that a user won't notice? Please advice since you are the expert with this field?

What do think Canon service department receive most complaint
about? FF and BF issues.

I don't know and neither do you. The difference is that you THINK
you know and that makes it a fact.

May it's the otherway around, you can't conceived that Canon F*k up
since this a perfect world.

Wow... you've got me pegged. You're simply amazing. ;-)

I don't take it's as an assult since you show very little in the
ability of critical thinking. I just find that you're annoying.

Ouch. ;-)

 

[SickRick]

Let's see now...

You've been on the forum 4 days now.
You have 60 posts in 4 days, all of them negative.

You confess to not having shot SLR for years, never shooting DSLR and using an ancient lens.
You have done mostly complaining about your unhappiness with your 10D.

You're complaining about a firmware release that hasn't been announced yet, so you don't even have a clue what you're complaining about.

Firmware is released to fix shortcomings, or introduce enhancements, or even fix problems. NOTHING is PERFECT in the real world. If everyone waited to release new stuff, until it was PERFECT, there'd be NO new stuff, and when it finally DID come out, the average consumer would be unable to afford it.

I consider THIS picture to have "decent" focus:



Camera Model Name Canon EOS 10D
Shooting Date/Time 6/23/2003 12:27:03 PM
Shooting Mode Program AE
Tv( Shutter Speed ) 1/160
Av( Aperture Value ) 6.3
Metering Mode Center-weighted averaging
Exposure Compensation 0
ISO Speed 200
Lens 16.0 - 35.0 mm
Focal Length 35.0 mm
Image Size 3072x2048
Image Quality RAW
Flash Off
White Balance Auto
AF Mode One-Shot AF

You're starting to sound like a B.SImpson re-incarnation. CHILL OUT. If you have a problem with your camera, GET IT FIXED (I'd wait and see what the update corrects tho'). If you're that unhappy, GET RID OF IT!

And yes, even though I don't think my camera is broken, I WILL install the update, as I believe in having current revision firmware in my equipment.

(I also sned my Valentine 1 Radar Detector in whenever they come out with an update, for the same reasoning

Rick

It's look like to me you're logic for reason is this. My unit is
working perfectly and thus every body else are wrong.

Like, I asked you many time show me a picture that you have taken
with your 10D with which you consider you archieved a decent focus.
So, I can judge what you consider is corect or incorrect focusing.

1. I'll just wait and see what the firmware update addresses when
it's released and make my decision then. That seems like the
logical thing to do, IMHO.
2. This seems like you're just creating another opportunity to
bash the 10D and/or those who don't have any "issues" with it. ;-)

 

[K Lam]

Can you tell what have changed in the past then years related photography physic and optics? Beside the electronics has been added to body.

What's different between SLR and DLSR relating to focusing and exposure?

And when is one ability to take picture has been related to how long you have been a member of dpreview.com?

You've been on the forum 4 days now.
You have 60 posts in 4 days, all of them negative.
You confess to not having shot SLR for years, never shooting DSLR
and using an ancient lens.
You have done mostly complaining about your unhappiness with your 10D.
You're complaining about a firmware release that hasn't been
announced yet, so you don't even have a clue what you're
complaining about.

Firmware is released to fix shortcomings, or introduce
enhancements, or even fix problems. NOTHING is PERFECT in the
real world. If everyone waited to release new stuff, until it was
PERFECT, there'd be NO new stuff, and when it finally DID come out,
the average consumer would be unable to afford it.

I consider THIS picture to have "decent" focus:



Camera Model Name Canon EOS 10D
Shooting Date/Time 6/23/2003 12:27:03 PM
Shooting Mode Program AE
Tv( Shutter Speed ) 1/160
Av( Aperture Value ) 6.3
Metering Mode Center-weighted averaging
Exposure Compensation 0
ISO Speed 200
Lens 16.0 - 35.0 mm
Focal Length 35.0 mm
Image Size 3072x2048
Image Quality RAW
Flash Off
White Balance Auto
AF Mode One-Shot AF

You're starting to sound like a B.SImpson re-incarnation. CHILL
OUT. If you have a problem with your camera, GET IT FIXED (I'd
wait and see what the update corrects tho'). If you're that
unhappy, GET RID OF IT!

And yes, even though I don't think my camera is broken, I WILL
install the update, as I believe in having current revision
firmware in my equipment.

(I also sned my Valentine 1 Radar Detector in whenever they come
out with an update, for the same reasoning

Rick

It's look like to me you're logic for reason is this. My unit is
working perfectly and thus every body else are wrong.

Like, I asked you many time show me a picture that you have taken
with your 10D with which you consider you archieved a decent focus.
So, I can judge what you consider is corect or incorrect focusing.

1. I'll just wait and see what the firmware update addresses when
it's released and make my decision then. That seems like the
logical thing to do, IMHO.
2. This seems like you're just creating another opportunity to
bash the 10D and/or those who don't have any "issues" with it. ;-)

 

[K Lam]

You've been on the forum 4 days now.
You have 60 posts in 4 days, all of them negative.
You confess to not having shot SLR for years, never shooting DSLR
and using an ancient lens.
You have done mostly complaining about your unhappiness with your 10D.
You're complaining about a firmware release that hasn't been
announced yet, so you don't even have a clue what you're
complaining about.

Firmware is released to fix shortcomings, or introduce
enhancements, or even fix problems. NOTHING is PERFECT in the
real world. If everyone waited to release new stuff, until it was
PERFECT, there'd be NO new stuff, and when it finally DID come out,
the average consumer would be unable to afford it.

I consider THIS picture to have "decent" focus:



Camera Model Name Canon EOS 10D
Shooting Date/Time 6/23/2003 12:27:03 PM
Shooting Mode Program AE
Tv( Shutter Speed ) 1/160
Av( Aperture Value ) 6.3
Metering Mode Center-weighted averaging
Exposure Compensation 0
ISO Speed 200
Lens 16.0 - 35.0 mm
Focal Length 35.0 mm
Image Size 3072x2048
Image Quality RAW
Flash Off
White Balance Auto
AF Mode One-Shot AF

You're starting to sound like a B.SImpson re-incarnation. CHILL
OUT. If you have a problem with your camera, GET IT FIXED (I'd
wait and see what the update corrects tho'). If you're that
unhappy, GET RID OF IT!

And yes, even though I don't think my camera is broken, I WILL
install the update, as I believe in having current revision
firmware in my equipment.

(I also sned my Valentine 1 Radar Detector in whenever they come
out with an update, for the same reasoning

Rick

It's look like to me you're logic for reason is this. My unit is
working perfectly and thus every body else are wrong.

Like, I asked you many time show me a picture that you have taken
with your 10D with which you consider you archieved a decent focus.
So, I can judge what you consider is corect or incorrect focusing.

1. I'll just wait and see what the firmware update addresses when
it's released and make my decision then. That seems like the
logical thing to do, IMHO.
2. This seems like you're just creating another opportunity to
bash the 10D and/or those who don't have any "issues" with it. ;-)

 

[The Raven]

You're starting to sound like a B.SImpson re-incarnation.

Funny, I had the very same thought. It would be the first time he's done come back from the banned. ;-)