Wi-Fi do you need it?

[Lecter]

I'd love it on the 1D-MkII

802.11g however, not like the USB 1.1 fiasco.

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[jblann]

I'd love it on the 1D-MkII

802.11g however, not like the USB 1.1 fiasco.

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[Paul Pope]

Can anyone explain to me WTF it is ?

I'd love it on the 1D-MkII

802.11g however, not like the USB 1.1 fiasco.

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[fasteddy47]

I'd love it on the 1D-MkII

802.11g however, not like the USB 1.1 fiasco.

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A company called WiPics will be showing off their version at the PMA...Saw the brochure quite interesting especially the download rate...super fassssttt..... Faster than the Nikon D2h WiFi...
They say it's going to retail for about $1800 USD...

Heres a link
http://www.wi-pics.com/products.htm

May be interested as I am a sports shooter...will see what kind of ratings it gets...before I invest that kind of BLING though...

Peace
Eddy

 

[Kjeld Olesen]

I'd love it on the 1D-MkII

802.11g however, not like the USB 1.1 fiasco.

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[kanefsky]

A company called WiPics will be showing off their version at the
PMA...Saw the brochure quite interesting especially the download
rate...super fassssttt..... Faster than the Nikon D2h WiFi...
They say it's going to retail for about $1800 USD...

Heres a link
http://www.wi-pics.com/products.htm

That looks like a system that's retrofitted to a camera which uses CF and doesn't know anything about Wi-Fi. Canon has apparently designed the 1DII to have Wi-Fi support via the firewire port.

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[impact_blue]

Hey Paul,

In case you do need this explained, I'll lend a hand - the 802.11g standard is a wireless network standard that runs at about 54MB/s. So you can have this set up in a studio, or anywhere with a WiFi tranciever, and a PC/Server to suck your pic down to it - and it'd be like running around with the 1394 cable - but not physically tethered.

At 54mb/s (megaBITS not bytes, big difference) it is pretty zippy - but I'm not sure if it's fast enough when you can shoot 40 frames in quick succesion how long would it take? I can't be bothered with math at midnight on a Friday - but hey.

Anyways -

Nathan.

I'd love it on the 1D-MkII

802.11g however, not like the USB 1.1 fiasco.

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[Marco Miltenburg]

That looks like a system that's retrofitted to a camera which uses
CF and doesn't know anything about Wi-Fi. Canon has apparently
designed the 1DII to have Wi-Fi support via the firewire port.

I've heard something similar. A unit is planned to be released later in the year.

Personally I don't see a big market for WIFI because of the limited channels and range. I think Bluetooth is a better solutions for transmitting pictures from the camera to a mini-notebook / PDA (in your jacket, backpack or just next to you) which then transfers the pictures using any system (mobile phone, WIFI, satellite, etc...). Software on a mini-notebook / PDA can also implement more workflow options than Canon can possibly think of in their design.

Grtz...

 

[Adam-T]

I get a feeling that those who cover Sports will benefit most as they can upload pics to their editors live during the action - not much call for that in commercial, "STOP PRESS !! Photo of new super-realistic Acme Rubber Dog Turd coming in" - LOL .. Maybe PJs could benefit if the link is powerful enough but I don't know much about WiFi or it's limitations - to me WiFi is just a music centre for the Missus ;-0

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[Joo]

I can't imagine a situation where I would actually be able to use 802.11g on the camera and have it be of benefit.

Joo

I'd love it on the 1D-MkII

802.11g however, not like the USB 1.1 fiasco.

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[Ken Phillips]

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That looks like a system that's retrofitted to a camera which uses
CF and doesn't know anything about Wi-Fi. Canon has apparently
designed the 1DII to have Wi-Fi support via the firewire port.

I've heard something similar. A unit is planned to be released
later in the year.

Personally I don't see a big market for WIFI because of the limited
channels and range. I think Bluetooth is a better solutions for
transmitting pictures from the camera to a mini-notebook / PDA (in
your jacket, backpack or just next to you) which then transfers the
pictures using any system (mobile phone, WIFI, satellite, etc...).
Software on a mini-notebook / PDA can also implement more workflow
options than Canon can possibly think of in their design.

Grtz...

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[Rich Claypole]

I'd love it on the 1D-MkII

802.11g however, not like the USB 1.1 fiasco.

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For Sports it would be beneficial, especially if it was possible to have the photos transfered to the laptop and then erase them from the camera storage as they are copied and verified.

The copying can go ahead in the backround as you shoot pics, you would no longer have to change CF cards as the data is being flushed to the laptop as you shoot.

What would be even better would be if you could move an image to a new folder on the camera, lets say download, then periodicall, every minute or two any images in that folder are transfered to the laptop and automatically sent to the photo desk.

This type of feature would be nice, but I don't think it will bring significant benefits.

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[fasteddy47]

For Sports it would be beneficial, especially if it was possible to
have the photos transfered to the laptop and then erase them from
the camera storage as they are copied and verified.

The copying can go ahead in the backround as you shoot pics, you
would no longer have to change CF cards as the data is being
flushed to the laptop as you shoot.

What would be even better would be if you could move an image to a
new folder on the camera, lets say download, then periodicall,
every minute or two any images in that folder are transfered to the
laptop and automatically sent to the photo desk.

This type of feature would be nice, but I don't think it will bring
significant benefits.

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http://www.FootballPics.net
http://www.kraftikards.co.uk

Canon EOS 1D, D60
Canon EF 50mm F1.8, EF 28-135mm IS
Sigma 300mm F2.8 + 70-200 F2.8
Sigma 1.4x and 2x Tele-Converters

I was at a junior Hockey Tourney... There were 4 rinks being used... there was a on location shooter there... in every rink he had a 28 inch monitor (TV) set up.... He would shoot a play and about 60 seconds later it would come up on one of the screens in a slideshow program... He was using a D2H and had a trailer in the parking lot with 2 pc's and 2 people cropping and sending pics to the monitors...there was a huge lineup for pictures...it was amazing.....They were printing off of a Kodak ML500? a dedicated printer that supposedly can do 200 8x10's an hour..

I sat outside and watched the people coming out with their little yellow slips of paper (order forms in the program) paying $13.99 for prints... in the course of an hour at least 100 parents came thru... they were extremely busy... I shoot and print on location as well...but not even close to this volume.. I think that like anything else people pay spontaniously...if it's there...they see it an like it....they buy it...

Wireless in a situation like that is truly super beneficial.....Maybe soon Canon or Nikon will come out with a robotic camera that we can pre program to shoot inside the colddd colddd arena's for us...lol... Technology at it's finest...WOW...

Peace
Eddy

 

[DavidP #28649]

Well, unless the 802.11g was backwards compatable (and actually worked) with the 802.11b on my laptop.

Would I really need it? No.

However, when shooting something like the telethon, it'd certainly be nice to know that I'm beaming an instant backup to my laptop.

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[DavidP #28649]

That's one very business-enhancing use of it.

For those who shoot such events, it's a huge boost to sales, I'm sure, to be able to show the pics that quickly and then sell them.

I was at a junior Hockey Tourney... There were 4 rinks being
used... there was a on location shooter there... in every rink he
had a 28 inch monitor (TV) set up.... He would shoot a play and
about 60 seconds later it would come up on one of the screens in a
slideshow program... He was using a D2H and had a trailer in the
parking lot with 2 pc's and 2 people cropping and sending pics to
the monitors...there was a huge lineup for pictures...it was
amazing.....They were printing off of a Kodak ML500? a dedicated
printer that supposedly can do 200 8x10's an hour..
I sat outside and watched the people coming out with their little
yellow slips of paper (order forms in the program) paying $13.99
for prints... in the course of an hour at least 100 parents came
thru... they were extremely busy... I shoot and print on location
as well...but not even close to this volume.. I think that like
anything else people pay spontaniously...if it's there...they see
it an like it....they buy it...
Wireless in a situation like that is truly super
beneficial.....Maybe soon Canon or Nikon will come out with a
robotic camera that we can pre program to shoot inside the colddd
colddd arena's for us...lol... Technology at it's finest...WOW...

Peace
Eddy

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[Frank Nichols]

As I responded to another thread about needing a mkII.

It isn't so much a matter of need for me as it is a matter of reducing how much attention I have to pay to the camera.

If wireless works and allows me to shoot 2000 to 3000 images at a wedding without having to change CF's by downloading directly to my laptop/network storage device. Then it removes one more (little) thing for me to think about - namely, is my CF about to fill up and I am about to have an important sequence to shoot. Say I have 25 shots left on my CF and I am about to the ring exchange portion of the ceremony.

As it iis now, I frequently check the space left on my CF - if I forget to, I can loose 4 or 5 seconds (or longer if I drop it) while I swap cards. It doesn't happen often, but with the wireless I can forget about storage and concentrate of shooting.

Not a NEED - just another step to making the camera a tool that is transparent to my workflow. I want to concentrate on what images I am shooting and not HOW I am using the camera to shoot them.

Frank

I'd love it on the 1D-MkII

802.11g however, not like the USB 1.1 fiasco.

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[Frank Nichols]

That is kind of like saying you want to use USB 1.0 for your card reader since that is what your laptop has.

If I am spending $4K on a camera and another $500 on a wireless connection, I can afford a $75 pc card to plug into the laptop to get the 5x performance.

Frank

Well, unless the 802.11g was backwards compatable (and actually
worked) with the 802.11b on my laptop.

Would I really need it? No.

However, when shooting something like the telethon, it'd certainly
be nice to know that I'm beaming an instant backup to my laptop.

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[DavidP #28649]

Maybe so, but I hate add-in cards like that. Too easy to break off.

Now if they ever come out with one that doesn't stick out . . .

That is kind of like saying you want to use USB 1.0 for your card
reader since that is what your laptop has.

If I am spending $4K on a camera and another $500 on a wireless
connection, I can afford a $75 pc card to plug into the laptop to
get the 5x performance.

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[Z (is real)]

Personally I don't see a big market for WIFI because of the limited
channels and range.

And then you mention Bluetooth? Me thinks you do not understand the two technologies...

-Z-

 

[Z (is real)]

Pretty much any 802.11g hardware would also support 802.11b .

-Z-

Well, unless the 802.11g was backwards compatable (and actually
worked) with the 802.11b on my laptop.

Would I really need it? No.

However, when shooting something like the telethon, it'd certainly
be nice to know that I'm beaming an instant backup to my laptop.

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Your link to independent music!