Why not WAIT for GH3?

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For all who have GH2's, and are lusting after possible IQ increases of the e-m5, I ask:

Why not wait for the GH3?

Has the GH2 IQ become so poor in the last few months? Perhaps the GH3 will leapfrog past the e-m5? Maybe not, but maybe yes.

And then what will you do? Not buy the GH3?

Or end up with a surplus camera after buying the GH3?

A waste of > $1,000?
 
For all who have GH2's, and are lusting after possible IQ increases of the e-m5, I ask:

Why not wait for the GH3?
Why wait?
Has the GH2 IQ become so poor in the last few months? Perhaps the GH3 will leapfrog past the e-m5? Maybe not, but maybe yes.
Who knows? The Oly exists today.
And then what will you do? Not buy the GH3?
Have to see what the GH3 offers.
Or end up with a surplus camera after buying the GH3?
Sure. I buy a lot of cameras. (Although I'm running low at the moment.)
A waste of > $1,000?
How so?
 
Waiting is always best if you have the patience. Probably best for most amateurs in my opinion to wait until that "killer feature" comes along that you can't live without. Cameras, like computers and cars, keep getting better.

I, for one, have been waiting for a m43 camera to deliver autofocusing and lack of noise equal to, or better than, my 5D. I thought the GH2 was close, but not quite. I'm waiting for the "final word" on the OMD (i.e. DPR's review), to make my decision. In the meantime I really like my camera. I'd really like it to be more portable though, like my EP1 was, and have decent video.

So, yes, wait for the GH3. Or the E-M6. Or the GX2. You can wait forever . . .
 
Are you saying the gh3 will be splashproof, not ugly, with 5axis ibis and cost much less than the em5....I'm in!
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Even better: why not wait for GH4, I mean GH5 ?

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For all who have GH2's, and are lusting after possible IQ increases of the e-m5, I ask:

Why not wait for the GH3?

Has the GH2 IQ become so poor in the last few months? Perhaps the GH3 will leapfrog past the e-m5? Maybe not, but maybe yes.

And then what will you do? Not buy the GH3?

Or end up with a surplus camera after buying the GH3?

A waste of > $1,000?
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For all who have GH2's, and are lusting after possible IQ increases of the e-m5, I ask:
Are you sure those happy using their GH2's are the ones excited for the E-M5? I don't think so, but I don't conduct polls either.

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since i like pretty much everything about the GH2 but the low light picture quality, instead of jumping on a canon for my mixed video/picture camera, i am waiting for the GH3. i found the GH2 comfortable, intuitive to use, and the video performance is very nice, so hopefully skin tones and low light quality will be improved on the up and coming GH3. supposedly it will be weather sealed, but i don't really care about that, although it wouldn't hurt - i just hope they don't remove any external controls from it.
 
im not waiting. have my eye set on a gh2 +14 140 price is getting better. i always buy previous model. because their is realy not that much difference. 1/2 a stop who cares.. how many people take photos of shadows. maybe someone should start a thread "show us your shadow photos " LOL. its like the k7 and the k5 so many faults with the k5 and iso no different at 3200raw how many competition prints have you seen at iso 3200? or higher. companies are cooking raw anyway and cooking iso figures. even lens arnt the same brightness.

cheers don
 
NOTE: I'm not trying to persuade anyone to wait or not to wait; I'm only describing my own reasons for upgrading to the OMD instead of the GH3.
  • IBIS. Unless Panasonic fundamentally shifts their philosophy regarding IS (which is possible given some rumors we've heard), I think it's getting clear that IBIS now has a clear advantage. The lenses can be cheaper & lighter, some of the limitations of IBIS are now corrected, and there IBIS seems to be more effective (arguable, but demonstrable). In particular, I can now stabilize my fast primes that don't have OIS, which is especially helpful for video.
  • Olympus JPG + color processing. Definitely subjective, but I've never been too fond of Panasonic's JPG processing and color interpretation.
  • Availability. For those not looking to upgrade now, it may be beneficial to wait. For those wanting to upgrade in time for a trip, vacation, or summer activities may wish to upgrade now. Given that the GH3 will likely not be available until fall (and perhaps much longer given Panasonic's track record), the Oly is a good choice today .
  • Projections. The one area that the GH3 may substantially improve over the E-M5 is in video recording. For those who need the absolute best video quality, it may indeed be better to wait and see. But the E-M5 is no slouch and greatly benefits from IBIS. The only slight disappointment I have is in the lack of a higher bitrate to remove compression artifacts. It is unlikely (though certainly possible) that the GH3 will have better image quality than the E-M5; however, the E-M5 is already a very substantial upgrade for me over the GH2 that I've been using for the past year. If in the unlikely event that the GH3's features are so much improved over the E-M5 that I find it a compelling ugprade, then I'll sell the E-M5 and buy the GH3. Not afraid to admit it! ;-)
Travis
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For all who have GH2's, and are lusting after possible IQ increases of the e-m5, I ask:

Why not wait for the GH3?

Has the GH2 IQ become so poor in the last few months? Perhaps the GH3 will leapfrog past the e-m5? Maybe not, but maybe yes.
I went through this myself a couple of months ago. I sold my GH2 and preordered an E-M5. Then, I started having second thoughts. I ended up buying another GH2 body on a GREAT deal, and I am very happy I did.

I started thinking about all the things I really like about the GH2, and realized that there were an equal number of things I did NOT like about the E-M5, and it dawned on me that I would not be happy with the E-M5 at all....So I cancelled my preorder, got the replacement GH2, and decided to just wait and see what Panasonic comes out with down the road.

The one thing that would get me to buy a GH3 would be if Panasonic improved their AWB and overall color rendition. That, as long as they kept the tonal gradation ability of the GH2, and a small improvement in high ISO performance, would be the main things that would get me to buy a GH3. The other things (weather sealing, magnesium body) are nice, but not enough to make me upgrade by themselves.

Oh, and the rumored kit with the 12-35mm lens sounds VERY appealing,

I'm hoping they do get things right... :)

-J
 
Actually I'll wait with my G3 for the time being. I can't afford the OM-D right now. I'm shooting for the end of the year, so by that moment the GH3, G5 and maybe a new OM-D rumor will be out, so I'll make a decision then.

But a deal breaker for me to go on with Panasonic or not is Auto ISO in M mode. OM-D has it, and I hope the GH3/G5 have it. If not, I'll go with the OM-D.

Besides, I love the weather sealing and overall look of the camera.
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Martin Ocando
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And then there will be rumors of a new OM-D model to wait for or a patent for a new sensor from panasonic, lets wait for that.

You can wait forever if you think the best is just around the corner.

Cheers
Chris
 
Why not indeed? As a relative neophyte, I am still learning to use My GF1 and G1. Will get a GH2 and 14-140mm eventually when my skill merits it and I can afford it. By that time there may not only be a GH3 but a Gh5 (not expecting a GH4!).
 
I'm waiting for GH3. I want to compare GH3 to E-M5 and figure out what is better for me.
GH3 could be better in several ways (just for me!)

Better body design and look. I want camera to have real grip and build in flash, I do not like "retro style" that does not serve the function
Better ergonomics, including better controls layout.
Bigger EVF, with better refresh rate, and resolution.
Better sensor with higher DR - 12 or more (better than GH2 that is 2 years old).

I think I do not have to mention AF speed - this is a commonplace and rather inexpensive.

Also I wish it has IBIS for work with manual macro lenses when magnification is bigger than 1:2.5.

When GH3 comes true, I'll compare it with E-M5.I think M43 users are very lucky having a privilege of choice

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I'm certainly not dumping the GH2 for the EM5, though I do envy the Oly's IBIS. Stills quality of the EM5 is marginally better, but for me not enough to warrant a change. I also shoot a lot of video and I find it unlikely that the EM5 matches the GH2 there.

I'm really very happy with the GH2, so I'll wait for the GH3 or GH4, or the EM6 or EM7. But that's how I roll. I generally upgrade every two or three or four generations -- not every year.
 
This is just I have been saying on some posts, better wait, no matter what the choice will be, both are good cameras, waiting is good, give us time to think and then choose the one who please us better

I understand that an Olympus user can not wait, it is normal, I say the same for Panasonic Lumix users, it is natural to have the tendency to stay on a brand that already please us

But for others the best is to wait and see ...
For all who have GH2's, and are lusting after possible IQ increases of the e-m5, I ask:

Why not wait for the GH3?

Has the GH2 IQ become so poor in the last few months? Perhaps the GH3 will leapfrog past the e-m5? Maybe not, but maybe yes.

And then what will you do? Not buy the GH3?

Or end up with a surplus camera after buying the GH3?

A waste of > $1,000?
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God is the tangential point between zero and infinity.

Imagination is more important than knowledge.

God always take the simplest way.
 
I'm still waiting for an M43 model that can do 1080p60 video. I expected to see it in the GX1 but it lacks this feature, probably because its older sensor isn't capable of it. I might well have bought the E-M5 if it had been 1080p60 capable. At the rate things are going, it looks like the GH3 might well be the first model to offer it.

Panasonic now has two "point and shoot" camera models that include 1080p60, the ZS20 "compact travel camera" and the FZ150 superzoom (which has been available for almost a year now). I've been very patient, but the lack of an M43 model with this feature is getting to be really annoying.

If the GF5 really does have a new sensor then it's quite possible that it will support 1080p60, since Panasonic will plan for the sensor to last for several camera models during which this feature will become de rigueur (although they may not enable it on the GF5 to avoid upstaging the GH2). If it does have 1080p60 video, I'll probably buy it, because one of the big reasons I'm looking to switch to M43 is that it gives me a compact "take everywhere" camera option that takes the same lenses. But I'd still get the GH3 when it comes out because I fully expect its video quality to be unsurpassed in the M43 lineup.
 

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