How many consumer PCs does HP sell that are over 1000 dollars.? Not many.
You don't know what your talking about.
I still have a PPC G5 doing PCI ProTools duty, on 10.4.11. Been solid as a rock for almost ten years. It's obviously not where the newer, full featured versions go, but it still does everything it ever did with no signs of quitting. And at home my youngest is much more productive on and prefers my still cranking 867ghz G4 to the two year old household Asus with Windows.
Because your logic has big holes in it...
Android doesn't sell phones. Motorola, Samsung, HTC and other HW vendors do...
Would HP, Dell and other want to be in that segment? Hell yeah!
Sure, they want to make a profit like everyone else, but they are also interested in the computer industry and making sure everyone can have a computer. Apples interest is strickly money and how they can squeeze every penny and of people who buy
Practical and reasonably priced.
Status symbol
Peer pressure/bandwagon.
But your argument is reasonable, you prefer a Mac because you like the interface. That is great. But most people see the pc as the same tool for much less cost. Their motivation is based in logic and reason, they see two tools that do exactly the same thing, only slightly in a different way and the one tool is nearly half the price or is a lot less for the same power/features. That is a compelling reason for them to purchase a PC, not to mention, peripherals/software are always less and there are a lot more choices.
Wrong. The same peripherals work on both, so no price difference nor any difference in choice.
So when HP decided to cut the PC division all together it was because...?
So you are all about envy. You know that's a deadly sin, right?
So Nikon and Canon are not about status? How about Pentax, Olympus etc. The cheaper struggling manufacturers that are just in it for the good of mankind.I have heard the car analogy before. But the engine/processor, is exactly the same, so is the drive/HD, the interface/display. They do the same speed, weigh similarly, perform the same. Both have aluminum chassis, they are more similar that dissimilar, and the mac is not a Mercedes, but you want to pay near double the price. Thats fine you pay more for an equal tool. Nikon and Canon have different operating systems and interface. One is not clearly superior, same with windows and OSX. But you are about status, I really have no argument about that. But I would argue that people who use a computer as a tool, think you are the tool for being concerned about status.
Really? Do USB 3 work at superspeed on a mac?
But they didn't cut it. That would be stupid and that was a mistake to get a CEO that has no clue what they are doing.
They get computers in to the hands of the people. Apple gets mac into about 6 percent of the people who own computers. Reasonable priced products is what they are about, and they deliver.
When you don't value status, a little hard to be envious. Envious at what, that you overpaid for a computer a much lesser expensive system matches. The love of money is the root of all evil. Apple seems to gouge customers to deliver big profits and big dividends to stockholers. Kids want an Ipod, Ipad, Mac, Macbook like the want a pair of expensive tennis shoes and if they have a pc, android/webos pad, android phone, mp3 player, they are not cool.
t people who use a computer as a tool, think you are the tool for being concerned about status.
There may be an element here on DPR that think a camera could be a sybol of status, Neither Nikon or Canon market that way. There cameras are competitively priced. In the same category, one camera is not near double the price of antoher.
According to Apple-bashing, Apple-customer-bashing types, Apple products are worthless and under-featured and over-priced, and Apple users are all elitist, style-obsessed idiots who are too dumb to use "real" computers. PCs and Android will soon wipe Macs and iOS off the face of the Earth.
I think they make a great product, the hardware is sound and the OS is great, it does have some feature that are better than Windows. They are not worthless or people would not pay the extra money for them. I do think they are over priced for what you get and there are lesser expensive computers that do the same thing for less. But that allows choice which is good
I have seen a lot of Apple users that give off an air of elitism. it happens a lot. It is mac that has uses marketing that PCs were hard and for geeks and Apple is easy for users that are not computer savvy.
I think that competition will make them both better or the one one that does not compete will get left behind, but that is not necessarily Appl,e that is anyone that does not make a good product
Glad you said that. But it is profitable, just not enough for stockholders. But Apple is profitable, so it is not that computers are not profitiable, it is because HP, IBM and others are not doing something right in the hardware department because Microsoft seems to be doing pretty well.
First, no way on the computer or laptop. Yes they wind the tablet, but a tablet at least in Ipod is not a computer. But if you bring in Ipads, then bring in HP Servers which are not included in consumer computers, they run VMS, Unix and Windows. But they are no more a personal computer than the IPad.
PC laptops cost a lot less. so obviously mac resale value is higher.
So you are not left out of our previous conversation. I stated that The HP is nearly half the price of a mac. So if you buy a PC, you could wait 2 or 3 years and buy another pc which would be much more powerfull than either of these two below bought now.
Not true, the HP is specs are higher for a lot less, though Apple has lowered the price of the mac it seems) read it and weep.
Mac $2499, HP $1429
HP has Blue Ray burner (Mac not)
HP has dual Drive bay, (Mac not) (easily add SSD)
HP has 8gb more ram (Mac has only 4) same speed
HP has industry standard USB3 and VGA(Mac not)
HP has thumb print reader for log in.
HP had 2 year warr Mac is 1year 90 days phone
HP beats Audio with subwoofer
HP supports 16gb ram Mac only 8
HP has newer graphics card (only slightly better performance)
HP has switchable batteries (Mac not)
Mac has Firewire 800 (HP Not)
Mac has Thunderbolt (HP Not)
Mac has Display port (HP Not)
Mac has Backlit keyboard (HP Not)
They both have impressive features but the HP has a lot more for less. If you need Firewire or Thunderbolt the HP is not for you but there are few peripherals out there that use them, things like dual drive bays, 8-16gb ram, Blue Ray support for video, longer warranties are more important for most customers using computers especially those in the (non pro consumer)photo or video industry..
What I think you see here, it the HP is built for the masses, high performance (equal to mac), low price, feature you don't use or need not included.
Not an obsession. Apple does not want to support an accepted standard for video and storage. The Accept DVD and include it on nearly every one of their computers. You can watch a DVD on your Apple or PC and both market it as media. But why is Apple resisting Blue Ray. I think they are trying to push highly compressed streaming video to your laptop or computer and call it HD. But it looks no better than DVD quality and is even more compressed. You see mpeg artifacts, blockyness areas of blurryness, but they still call it high def. But if you pay all that extra money for an expensive display on a mac laptop and you watch a movie, the best quality comes from blue ray and if you hook that laptop to a projector or big screen tv you will see the difference between the streamed "hd" movie and a blue ray.
I have heard this before and laugh a little bit. Maybe that will work for you, but if you a consumer and want to load microsoft office, how are you going to do it in a reasonable mount of time? What about games that span mulitple DVDs I have 20mbit from Century Link, and 24mb from 4g verizon at my house still programs that are 1 or 2 dvds take forever to download. Some people in many areas don't have this speed.
How many cinema systems have as nice a display as your mac laptop? Are you willing to give external storage devices away and not get them back, but a 1 dollar disk is nothing.
Then why do all computers and laptops (with decent displays) all have either DVD or Blue ray or the option for BR if that were true. Mac does not have this option from the store and they are marketing to people like you telling you you don't need it thus we will not supply it. It is an option on HP, Dell and other brands of computers.
Pretty weak if you ask me, HDMI is limited to 1080p resolutions and VGA is clearly inferior to digital monitor outputs, the fact that VGA is analog also creates issues with protected content like HD movies. Display port is widely implemented outside of the bargain bin monitors and can be converted to various protocols via dongle.
They do if you add a USB 3 card, and if you don't, they work just fine at USB 2 speeds.
