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While we wait…..sorry no rumors…. But a rant from a 20D owner.

also posted in the FM rumor thread!

In my mind I am on a two year cycle with new cameras at this point -The D60 in 2002 and 20D in 2004. I am one of those guys looking for that “gap” camera to be introduced. Last fall I contemplated selling a few lenses to make the 5D happen but the jump was too much for me to swallow… I just didn’t see enough value for me and I upgraded my lenses instead.

The 30D looks OK but not enough by any measure for me to upgrade. I am certainly guilty of getting wrapped up in the rumor mill… Ever since I started SLR photography in ’83 I have been looking for new and exciting stuff to come out…for me it’s part of the game. The XTi looks great but again it’s not for me as – again compared to the 20D it just offers gizmos and glitz… not really better pictures or built quality.

Canon has us in their hands…or I think they could have me… or do they??… I am getting a bit disillusioned by the outlook of high ticket prices to the higher end bodies… I don’t care what anyone tells me but $4000-$9000 for pro bodies (CAD), I find is insane… If that’s what it cost I will stay put with my 20D for the next 5-6 years I think. Perhaps there is nothing wrong with that but as I mentioned above, part of my hobby is following new trends, trying new gear and right now I just have to wait a bit longer I guess. I am part time pro but mostly I shoot for my own joy. I am looking for news by next PMA for sure as I’d like to take a new camera on 5 week Europe trip next summer.

Sorry for the rant but there must be other 20D owners out there with the same outlook on things?

Cameras that would make me upgrade:

I do believe I want to go FF or 1.25x for my next camera. In my lens purchases I have planned for this:
5D at a lower $2000 price point… it’s still $3800 Canadian.

5D Mark II, at a price point no higher than $2500. 5fps (doubt we’ll see this till fall 2007)

3D, 1.25x crop factor, 10-12 MP better built, 1D type or close in auto focus, 5fps.

(ideally these cameras would not feel like my 20D.. I am looking for better built quality as I felt it going from D60 to 20D).

1D Mark III at $4000.00, with the grip as an option like the old EOS -1.

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mfoto
http://www.mfoto.ca
http://www.silverstarmountain.com
 
While we wait…..sorry no rumors…. But a rant from a 20D owner.

also posted in the FM rumor thread!

In my mind I am on a two year cycle with new cameras at this point
-The D60 in 2002 and 20D in 2004. I am one of those guys looking
for that “gap” camera to be introduced. Last fall I contemplated
selling a few lenses to make the 5D happen but the jump was too
much for me to swallow… I just didn’t see enough value for me and I
upgraded my lenses instead.

The 30D looks OK but not enough by any measure for me to upgrade. I
am certainly guilty of getting wrapped up in the rumor mill… Ever
since I started SLR photography in ’83 I have been looking for new
and exciting stuff to come out…for me it’s part of the game. The
XTi looks great but again it’s not for me as – again compared to
the 20D it just offers gizmos and glitz… not really better pictures
or built quality.

Canon has us in their hands…or I think they could have me… or do
they??… I am getting a bit disillusioned by the outlook of high
ticket prices to the higher end bodies… I don’t care what anyone
tells me but $4000-$9000 for pro bodies (CAD), I find is insane… If
that’s what it cost I will stay put with my 20D for the next 5-6
years I think. Perhaps there is nothing wrong with that but as I
mentioned above, part of my hobby is following new trends, trying
new gear and right now I just have to wait a bit longer I guess. I
am part time pro but mostly I shoot for my own joy. I am looking
for news by next PMA for sure as I’d like to take a new camera on 5
week Europe trip next summer.

Sorry for the rant but there must be other 20D owners out there
with the same outlook on things?

Cameras that would make me upgrade:
I do believe I want to go FF or 1.25x for my next camera. In my
lens purchases I have planned for this:
5D at a lower $2000 price point… it’s still $3800 Canadian.
5D Mark II, at a price point no higher than $2500. 5fps (doubt
we’ll see this till fall 2007)
3D, 1.25x crop factor, 10-12 MP better built, 1D type or close in
auto focus, 5fps.
(ideally these cameras would not feel like my 20D.. I am looking
for better built quality as I felt it going from D60 to 20D).

1D Mark III at $4000.00, with the grip as an option like the old
EOS -1.

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mfoto
http://www.mfoto.ca
http://www.silverstarmountain.com
 
I have a 20D and most of my photography occurs on long hikes. I've often had to decide on which one or at most two lenses I'd be willing to carry, so the idea of a 3 pound brick body like the 1-Dx is unacceptable to me. That said, the AF system of the 1-D is something I'd pay an extra ~$1K for in a lighter body. All the other features are pretty much irrelevant to me. Yes, I'd probably upgrade to the as yet mythical 40D for the modest resolution upgrade + all the incremental improvements that showed up on the 30D, but I wouldn't be in any great hurry to do so. Tack on an improved AF system (particularly one with a center cross sensor that worked at f/8) and I'd be all over it.

PS. I'm pretty agnostic on the 1.6 vs. 1.3 vs FF issue. I see advantages in each and would likely upgrade to a new Canon body if the above conditions were met regardless of the sensor format.
 
My 35mm Canon A1 is still as perfect as the day I bought it --- in 1983, 23 years ago. And it has logged well more than a half-million shutter actuations. Thus, I don't feel compelled to replace my not quite two year-old 20D --- yet.

YMMV (Your mileage may vary.)

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When I ask which Canon lenses are best,
people tell me to 'go to L.'
 
Your point is well taken. I know where you are coming from. I guess I see things I like in the 1.25x and FF cams, which I guess I though would have liked see introduced in my price range. Obviously it's too much to ask for at this point. The two year cycle is all made up by me. No one says that's what it has to be but it was perhaps just what I expected - A camera to be introduced now - I would upgrade in the spring.

mfoto
My 35mm Canon A1 is still as perfect as the day I bought it --- in
1983, 23 years ago. And it has logged well more than a half-million
shutter actuations. Thus, I don't feel compelled to replace my not
quite two year-old 20D --- yet.

YMMV (Your mileage may vary.)

--
When I ask which Canon lenses are best,
people tell me to 'go to L.'
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mfoto
http://www.mfoto.ca
http://www.silverstarmountain.com
 

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