What is going on?

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Sorry, I've been away for a couple of days.

First, let me explain what I want. I want all JPEGS going to my SD card, and all RAWs going to my CF express card. Up until last week, that's what I've always gotten.

Today I ran some very short tests, and I am more confused than ever. My camera is set up the following way:

Primary Slot Function: C/X (CF express)

Secondary Slot: RAW + JPEG

I took test photos in U1, U2, U3 and M. I took 3 photos in each mode, meaning I should have ended up with 12 photos on each card. But I ended up with 9 photos (all JPEGs) on my SD card, and 12 photos -- 3 of them JPEGs, and 9 NEFs -- on my CF card.

So I changed the settings on every mode to:

Primary Slot Function: SD card

Secondary Slot: RAW + JPEG

I now took 1 photo each in U1, U2, U3 and M. Each User setting produced 1 JPEG (on the SD card) and 1 NEF (on the CF card). That's what I want.

But the M setting produced 1 JPEG on each card!

I can't figure this out.
Each of those settings needs to be changed and then saved separately to U1,U2, U3 AND in normal PASM shotting modes i.e 4 times for it to be the same across the system.
 
Also verify in each U1,U2,U3, PASM: Photo Shooting menu --> Image Quality --> RAW+JPG fine* (or RAW+JPG normal, etc) I always use Fine*, it's often an obvious improvement over Fine, but the jpg files are larger, of course.)
Secondary Slot: RAW + JPEG

I now took 1 photo each in U1, U2, U3 and M. Each User setting produced 1 JPEG (on the SD card) and 1 NEF (on the CF card). That's what I want.

But the M setting produced 1 JPEG on each card!
P,A,S, and M all share the same settings. Check the Image Quality setting in one of the four, the others will match.
 
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Because the menu structures are different for each model with the Zf and Z5II being the most similar to each other.

What you need to look at closely is the Secondary Slot selection. For example on my Zf this is set to RAW Primary - JPEG Secondary. This results in my RAW files going to the Primary slot and JPG files going to the Secondary slot. For a second example we have my Z7 II where the Primary Slot is set to CFexpress/XQD Card Slot and the Secondary slot is set to Raw Primary - JPEG Secondary.

Next up is the Image Quality setting. This is where you set the specific image resolution settings. On my Zf this value is set to RAW + JPEG/HEIF Fine *. On my Z7 II this is set to NEF (RAW) + JPEG fine *.

Finally there is the Raw Recording setting where the specific type of RAW file is determined. Basically it's a choice between uncompressed and the different RAW compressions offered in the specific model. On my Zf there are 3 methods offered, Lossless Compression, High Efficiency *, and High Efficiency. Currently I'm trying to decide if I want to compromise RAW compatibility by going Lossless Compressed or using High Efficiency *. Because it is roughly a 12mb savings in file size using the HEIF * setting. On my Z7 II the You have a setting for 14 bit RAW and in a secondary window settings for the compression scheme. The settings in the compression scheme are Lossless Compressed, Compressed, and Uncompressed. BTW on the Z7 II I tested the effectiveness of the Lossless Compressed and Compressed and the Lossless Compressed has roughly a 5% increase it file size and very nearly undetectable artifacts. As for the Uncompressed RAW IIRC that increases the file size by about 10-12mb so I chose the Lossless Compressed to conserve file space.

Take note, all of the above settings are interlinked to some extent and some of what you see may be due to that interlinking. From what you have posted I suspect that you may have a Z6 II or a Z7 II and if so I suggest you copy my Z7 II scheme described above. Because I do not get any unexpected file placements or types, the CFexpress B card is always RAW and the SD Card is always JPG.

Primary slot = CFexpress/XQD Card Slot

Secondary Slot = Raw Primary - JPEG Secondary


Image Quality = NEF(RAW) + JPEG Fine *

Raw Recording = 14 Bit > Lossless Compressed
 
. . . Take note, all of the above settings are interlinked to some extent and some of what you see may be due to that interlinking. From what you have posted I suspect that you may have a Z6 II or a Z7 II and if so I suggest you copy my Z7 II scheme described above. Because I do not get any unexpected file placements or types, the CFexpress B card is always RAW and the SD Card is always JPG.

Primary slot = CFexpress/XQD Card Slot

Secondary Slot = Raw Primary - JPEG Secondary

Image Quality = NEF(RAW) + JPEG Fine *

Raw Recording = 14 Bit > Lossless Compressed
Thank you. This is very useful information.
 

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