What factor would most influence you to change systems ?

[Phil A Martin]

What I dislike most about this type of discussion, is the hidden assumption that everyone can simply afford to ditch their entire system at the drop of a hat and replace with new. When many of us here would simply not have the financial resources to do this. Many have to take careful consideration about buying a new lens, let alone a whole system. I think people need to be aware of this before telling people to just buy a new camera, as though it's just the latest news paper. That is all.

 

[BrentSchumer]

What I dislike most about this type of discussion, is the hidden assumption that everyone can simply afford to ditch their entire system at the drop of a hat and replace with new. When many of us here would simply not have the financial resources to do this. Many have to take careful consideration about buying a new lens, let alone a whole system. I think people need to be aware of this before telling people to just buy a new camera, as though it's just the latest news paper. That is all.

To me, "value" is part of why one chooses a system and "cost" is a barrier to switching willy-nilly.

 

[New Day Rising]

I agree with you - for the most part. I have seen many posts on here written by people with huge collections of high end gear (which is fine in itself) who seemingly don't get that other people are not in the same situation. Or those where someone asks for buying advice saying they have a max $1,000 budget and get a whole lot of recommendations for $4,000 set-ups.

Threads like this don't bother me so much as they are clearly hypothetical and just mental exercises for a bit of fun.

 

[JRP64]

Actually, the reason I changed systems was that I haven't upgraded in a long, long time and was just looking for the best camera system that I hope will last me another long time.

 

[Phil A Martin]

I agree with you - for the most part. I have seen many posts on here written by people with huge collections of high end gear (which is fine in itself) who seemingly don't get that other people are not in the same situation. Or those where someone asks for buying advice saying they have a max $1,000 budget and get a whole lot of recommendations for $4,000 set-ups.

Threads like this don't bother me so much as they are clearly hypothetical and just mental exercises for a bit of fun.

Don't get me wrong, if money was no object, I'd so add extra kit, but in addition to my Pentax KP. I'd love a Fujifilm GFX100s and the 45mm f/2.8, that would be the closest in digital form to my beloved Mamiya RB67 with the 65mm f/3.5 and that's all I'd need for most of my landscape work but it's never going to happen.

 

[Redhenry]

I definitely agree. When I joined DPR a few months ago, I was quite startled to see that for many people, getting a new camera didn't necessarily mean selling the previous one! However, I start my state pension in November and am being allowed by Mrs Redhenry to spend the first month's money, plus what I get for the old Nikon and 2 lenses, on moving to M4/3. If anyone's interested, current plan is an OM-Diii body, the 17mm f1.8 and 45mm f1.8, lots of examples on the MPB website.

 

[Phil A Martin]

I definitely agree. When I joined DPR a few months ago, I was quite startled to see that for many people, getting a new camera didn't necessarily mean selling the previous one! However, I start my state pension in November and am being allowed by Mrs Redhenry to spend the first month's money, plus what I get for the old Nikon and 2 lenses, on moving to M4/3. If anyone's interested, current plan is an OM-Diii body, the 17mm f1.8 and 45mm f1.8, lots of examples on the MPB website.

Exactly, I've only go a few years to before I retire and the end of earning but luckily a PPI insurance claim wiped out all my debt some years ago and I'm now quite comfortable, never the less, I don't want to blow all my savings.

Having said that, I've sold lenses to upgrade and once part exchanged a Voightlander Bessa II 6x9 folder, bought in a junk shop for £7.00 and swapped for a Metz 45CL4 plus accessories worth £125.

 

[All Bushs Fault]

Which single factor would most influence you to leave

I picked number two as that has been my guiding light since purchasing my first DSLR. I consider lenses and accurate AF contributing components of IQ.

 

[WarrenPeas]

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[NickZ2016]

In general most of the things on your list just need to be good enough.

I would not switch for ergonomics because if my current camera didn't work for me I would be using it. Likewise any new camera has to feel good in the hand and be usable.

At the moment I think personally video issues are the biggest things pushing me.

 

[NickZ2016]

I was quite startled to see that for many people, getting a new camera didn't necessarily mean selling the previous one!

Selling stuff makes sense if it's fairly new or worth something. I have stuff that I might need to pay people to take or spend months trying to find a buyer.

Plus having a backup or two isn't the worst thing in the world.

 

[tex]

until I win the lottery price is always a consideration, which is why I am where I am.

 

[Redhenry]

Nice idea and thanks for the tip but the Z5 is out of my league. Even the used bodies on sale at MPB in England cost over £1k and then there would be a lens to find. I can get a good used Olympus EM10 plus used 45mm f1.8 and 17mm f1.8 lenses for about £600, which will be more than I have ever spent in one go on camera equipment! I know that the IQ of the Z5 is great but I don't need it and will not need any lenses other than the two I've mentioned.

 

[Redhenry]

I wasn't criticising anyone, it's just that I was initially surprised at the number of members who have what is to me very expensive equipment. For me, photography has always meant older and/or cheaper cameras and the extra £50 I could make by selling my previous camera has always made a big difference to the cost of changing. There have always been more urgent demands on my bank account! For me, one camera has always been enough but you're right, it is definitely good to have a backup, which is why I have my RX100II (bought refurbished from Sony for 40% of the new price). English people would not be surprised to find that I live in Yorkshire, where people have a reputation for being careful with their money!

 

[robgendreau]

None of those criteria in the OP are very interesting. Incremental, the stuff reviewers and commenters can argue about endlessly when in the real world it doesn't matter much.

I'm looking forward toward some real innovation, the kind we haven't seen since at least what, 20 years ago with the first MILCs in general circulation came out? One of the known unknowns (we know there will be innovation, just not what form it will take).

Meanwhile, if someone figures out how to see me medium format bodies and lenses for a $1000US I might jump on.

But otherwise I won't change systems, I'll add. I do collect, but it's old stuff like a 6MP Nikon from Goodwill for $20 (now 12MP or more, thanks Gigapixel!). I set a budget, bid and it goes to a good cause if I win. Although that old stuff is getting harder to find and more expensive; anyone notice that used stuff is more scarce now?

 

[Redhenry]

It can be similar in music. When I used to play bass in jazz quartets and big bands, I would come into contact with novice guitarists who had collections of outrageously expensive instruments. The intro to Smoke on the Water sounded much the same on all of them.

 

[Carol T]

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[a_c_skinner]

Have you looked at ffordes.com? Always been good for me.

 

[Tuonov2]

... they make a 150-600 FF lens that weighs 425gr and costs £450

Not content with having every other thread on the m4/3 forum about FF, they have to cross infest to the open forum :rolleyes

 

[Hello123]

Which single factor would most influence you to leave

I'm more interested in taking photographs than in camera gear. I don't too get to wrapped up in specs at this point anymore. Unless there is groundbreaking technology or my camera breaks and I need to buy a new one AND Nikon has gone out of business, I'm not replacing my gear much less jumping to another manufacture. G.A.S. really sucks.