Reading mode: Light Dark

What do YOU do when the counter resets?

Go to last post
I use the file number of my images as part of the sorting of the images as each file requires its own individual number i just use the file numbers, the way around the 4 digital limitation and multiple cameras was solved for me with the customisable file names with the K20D/K7, my naming standard has become for the K20D,

K2AXxxxx.dng and for the K7 K7AXxxxx.dng

The first two digits tell which camera model the image is from, the A tells me which camera it is A being main B being the backup so on and so forth. The next digit which i can change with the camera gets assigned to a number to tell me where i am at as far as the number of images so at the start it is a 0, after 9999 shots it becomes a 1 so on and so forth.

Once i get to 99,999 and i run out of numbers in my sequence I simple change that digit to a letter up till i get to Z in which case my camera having done nearly 2.6 million actuations will settle down to a nice retirement. I don't foresee having to use the letters at the rate i shoot at i don't burn through my cameras like some here do.
--
Chris.

A weather sealed ultra wide, is that too much to ask?

http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/chriside

GMT +9.5

Pentax SLR talk FAQ
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=23161072
 
Edvinas said:
brandrx said:
I don't know where you get that. Mine sort just fine. In each of the folders they begin at MMDDYY_imgp0001.dng and end at MMDDYY_imgp9999.dng
Click to expand...
011010_imgp1111.dng
021009_imgp0111.dng
021210_imgp1222.dng
122508_imgp0001.dng

Isn't that broken sorting? :)
Click to expand...
Those would not be in the same folder.

Whatever. It works for me. Not going to argue the point.

Cheers.

Ron

--
Ron - 'We don't have time to go take pics this afternoon Carl.'
Carl - 'What do you mean? It will only take 1/1000s.'

'Keep your eyes looking forward. However, glance back now and then to see where you've come from. It will put a smile on your face.' ~ brandrx
 
I think I will adopt photogerald's suggestion: use custom file naming to change the P (of imgP) into a 1. That actually makes a lot of sense and serves the purpose of knowing your estimate picture count total as well.

Nevertheless, I appreciated each and every one of the suggestions. The DNG ones dropped out as I use PEF's on a custom-written bash-script in Linux. The ones with renaming on import I cannot use as I copy the files from the card with Dolphin, the KDE file manager.

I enjoyed reading them all, what creativity!

Shows why this forum is so important, again...

Mike
--
http://www.flickr.com/newmikey
http://www.pbase.com/newmikey
 
newmikey said:
I think I will adopt photogerald's suggestion: use custom file naming to change the P (of imgP) into a 1. That actually makes a lot of sense and serves the purpose of knowing your estimate picture count total as well.

Mike
Click to expand...
I'm curious: Do you NOT use folders/directories as part of your file-organization? If not, I guess I'm wondering why not?

If you DO, I guess I'm wondering what you're concern was.

I use directories with a YYYY-MM-DD-plus-description naming convention to keep my files separate and in date order; the descriptions give me things to search on (e.g., "Where the heck are those soccer pictures from last spring?" Oh, search for "soccer" and scan the names of the resulting folders for the dates I'm looking for).

I have "flipped the odometer over" several times on my various Pentax DSLRs. For me, using the method above, the only time I have issues is if I "crossed over" from 9999 to 0001 in the same directory (i.e., it happened during the same "logical shoot" for that date).

It's only happened two or three times over the past four or five years, but when it does, the fix is very simple: I just run the files through a file-renamer, and prefix all the up-to-9999 files with "A_", and the 0001-and-after files with "B_". That way, A_IMGP9999.jpg comes before B_IMGP0001.jpg.

I'm not trying to change your mind; I guess I was just wondering the issue/problem you were trying to solve, and why using directories was not a sufficient/usable solution.

Thanks,

Greg
 
Yes, I use date named folders ( e.g. 20100915.001 ) and that seems to work. You can use any image management app to track the files.

On Linux you can use symbolic links as well. Lots of options with symbolic links to play with.

--
StephenG

Pentax K100D
Fuji S3 Pro
Fuji S9600
 
gkreth said:
I'm curious: Do you NOT use folders/directories as part of your file-organization? If not, I guess I'm wondering why not?

If you DO, I guess I'm wondering what you're concern was.
Click to expand...
Greg,

Not really a concern but more an issue of consistency, traceability and logic. I do keep files organized in directories named with day, month and year and I use DigiKam as photo-management database to rate, add categories etc. Sometimes I do copy over a batch of photo's that may cross directories, sometimes over several years (like a series of your kids growing up f.i.). File names may clash in that case, how remote that possibility may seem.

Second, when I use disk cleanup software, it will identify duplicate files by their names - I might be tempted to delete "duplicates" only to find out they weren't.

Third, it just appeals to my sense of organization: different files should have different file names - call it somewhat of an obsession ;-)

Mike
--
http://www.flickr.com/newmikey
http://www.pbase.com/newmikey
 
newmikey said:
Third, it just appeals to my sense of organization: different files should have different file names - call it somewhat of an obsession ;-)
Click to expand...
That's not an obsession. That's common sense. File must be uniquely identified by it's name within the system, not just within the folder.

--
Edvinas
 
RebleXT said:
brandrx said:
Edvinas said:
brandrx said:
so I change the name of the file to MMDDYY_imgpxxxx.dng.
Click to expand...
Such naming completely breaks sorting by file name...
Click to expand...
I don't know where you get that. Mine sort just fine. In each of the folders they begin at MMDDYY_imgp0001.dng and end at MMDDYY_imgp9999.dng

Works just fine for me.
Click to expand...
no way. That can't work. 010110.. will be befor 121209..
Click to expand...
Apparently you too did not read the part about different folders. Like I said, "It DOES work for me." ....end of discussion.

Cheers.

Ron

--
Ron - 'We don't have time to go take pics this afternoon Carl.'
Carl - 'What do you mean? It will only take 1/1000s.'

'Keep your eyes looking forward. However, glance back now and then to see where you've come from. It will put a smile on your face.' ~ brandrx
 
newmikey said:
gkreth said:
I'm curious: Do you NOT use folders/directories as part of your file-organization? If not, I guess I'm wondering why not?
If you DO, I guess I'm wondering what you're concern was.
Click to expand...
Greg,

Not really a concern but more an issue of consistency, traceability and logic. I do keep files organized in directories named with day, month and year and I use DigiKam as photo-management database to rate, add categories etc. Sometimes I do copy over a batch of photo's that may cross directories, sometimes over several years (like a series of your kids growing up f.i.). File names may clash in that case, how remote that possibility may seem.

Second, when I use disk cleanup software, it will identify duplicate files by their names - I might be tempted to delete "duplicates" only to find out they weren't.

Third, it just appeals to my sense of organization: different files should have different file names - call it somewhat of an obsession ;-)

Mike
Click to expand...
OK, I can see that. And unique names do let you "bundle together" files from various directories into a single directory, with no danger of overwriting.

Hmmm.... let's see... If I were to do that, I'd want to have the following "rules":
  • Preserve original file name; I could use prefixes and/or suffixes, but I'd want that original IMGxxxxx.jpg in the name. I'm not sure entirely why, but it seems like, the minute I decide NOT to do it, I'd stumble across a situation in which I'd be kicking myself for NOT doing it.
  • Dates must come FIRST , in YYYYMMDD order, because that works best for sorting, I think.
  • I don't mix camera bodies much for the same "photo event," but if I did, I wold think that I'd want it in chronological time order, e.g., K-x and K10D pictures may be interspersed. That way I can still use search functions on a directory for "K10D' or "K-x" to "filter out" one or another camera body.
  • No spaces, underscores instead. Spaces in file names are evil.
  • Keywords/descriptions on the directories, not the filenames. If I search for "Christmas," I want a series of folders, not every single picture in the folder(s) to show up in the search.
So, I guess I would use a scheme like this: YYYY-MM-DD_seq-nbr_camera-body_orig-file-name

Examples:
  • 2010-04-27_00001_K10_IMGP9994.jpg
  • 2010-04-27_00002_K10_IMGP9997.jpg
  • 2010-04-27_00003_K10_IMGP0002.jpg
  • 2010-04-27_00004_K-x_IMGP5068.jpg
  • 2010-04-27_00005_K-x_IMGP5069.jpg
  • 2010-04-27_00006_K-x_IMGP5071.jpg
  • 2010-04-27_00007_K10_IMGP0003.jpg
and so on.

Those, say, would be in the directory 2010-04-27_Dad_anniversary_New_York .

Hmm... I wonder how well that would work?

Greg
 
newmikey said:
gkreth said:
I'm curious: Do you NOT use folders/directories as part of your file-organization? If not, I guess I'm wondering why not?

If you DO, I guess I'm wondering what you're concern was.
Click to expand...
Not really a concern but more an issue of consistency, traceability and logic. I do keep files organized in directories named with day, month and year and I use DigiKam as photo-management database to rate, add categories etc. Sometimes I do copy over a batch of photo's that may cross directories, sometimes over several years (like a series of your kids growing up f.i.). File names may clash in that case, how remote that possibility may seem.

Second, when I use disk cleanup software, it will identify duplicate files by their names - I might be tempted to delete "duplicates" only to find out they weren't.

Third, it just appeals to my sense of organization: different files should have different file names - call it somewhat of an obsession ;-)
Click to expand...
I'm with you here Mike - I too use folders to organize my photos, but I also wish to have unique file names to avoid the problems you listed.
 
gkreth said:
Hmm... I wonder how well that would work?

Greg
Click to expand...
Well enough I suppose Greg. The filenames are getting a bit long so they will all look similar in a file manager (whether Explorer under Windows or Konqueror/Dolphin/etc. under Linux

Managing files from the command line becomes more difficult as the mask needed to identify a (group of-) files becomes longer and more wildcards are needed.

As renaming becomes more complicated, more can go wrong whereas letting the camera take care of it has the advantage of simplicity. I actually use a couple of naming schemes:

AMGPXXX.pef - always stays the same, no matter what

AMGPXXXX.jpg - gets renamed to AMGPXXX-orig.jpg as soon as I have reset the autorotate bit. These files get touched only as inputs into fileprocessing of any kind, the NEVER get overwritten.

AMGPXXX-web.jpg and resized-AMGPXXXX.jpg for thumbnails depending on what program I used to resize them (commandline ImageMagick or KIM).

AMGPXXXX-ufrb-kde.jpg are PEF's converted in batch through my own ufrb-kde script (UFRaw piped through ImagMagick)

AMGPXXXX-ufrb-kde.png are PEF's converted in batch to 16-bit png to be edited in GIMP or ShowFoto for detailed changes.

AMGPXXXX-ufraw.png are PEF's converted individually to 16-bit png to be edited in Gimp or ShowFoto.

AMGPXXXX-programname.jpg (or png) are PEF's converted in any other way with any other program.(RawTherapee, straight DCRAW, Bibble etc.) - I do not use this often.

Thanks for the thoughts anyway and your method WILL definitely work, just a matter of choice I suppose.

Mike
--
http://www.flickr.com/newmikey
http://www.pbase.com/newmikey
 
Mine hit 9999 and I didn't even realize it until I went to look at the photos on the computer. The images from late last night and today are not even showing as a folder in the camera or computer.

Unfortunately, I was unaware of the need to reset the counter. Now I don't know if any pics after 9999 are gone or what?

Oh my :(
 
I add D0 between the IMGP and the ####.
D is for my K-7 (A=*ist DS, B=K10D, C=K20D)
then when it rolls over the I will add D1 instead of D2 for my K-7.

Dave
--

 
Okay, I did the rename thing. Glad that's taken care of.

However, my images from last night and today are nowhere to be found. I then took a new picture and the rollover/rename thing worked on that image, but everything in between 9999 and the new sequence is gone. There was alot of pics, but probably 5-10 that I wish I could recover :(
 
Put the camera back in the box and sell it as new. I do this with cars as well, but it takes considerably longer to turn the odometer, (plus the deer inflicted custom body work gives away that the car isn't in fact '0' kms). For that matter, I suppose the peanut butter squished between the camera buttons exposes the other lie as well. Nevermind then.
--
Elijah
 
Unfortunately, they are not. Went though the folders over and over.

Today I went back to the college and tried to re-shoot. The weather/sunlight was different today but I grabbed a couple of decent pics of this great building on campus. Here's one as I arrived:



 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Keyboard shortcuts

f
Forum
m
My threads
Mobile site
About
Editorial content
Cameras & Lenses
Community
All content, design, and layout are Copyright © 1998–2025 Digital Photography Review All Rights Reserved.
Reproduction in whole or part in any form or medium without specific written permission is prohibited.
When you use DPReview links to buy products, the site may earn a commission.
©GPS Media - Guides, Products, Services.
Back
Top