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I'm not knocking Zenfolio, but I don't think it is as customizable as Wordpress nor has as many plugins that make Wordpress as powerful as it is as a website platform.

Wordpress leaves the user with options that can grow with you.
 
I was posting it more as a theme examples for the OP, but I hear your points.

I love the full-screen image homepage but not the gallery pages (for many of the same reasons you mention). I'll probably switch themes at some point but I haven't found the right one yet.


The reason there is very little about me or what I'm available for is because, generally, I'm not available for anything. The site's origins are the product of a small, unexpected print sale and a box of wine.
 
vander wrote:

I'm not knocking Zenfolio, but I don't think it is as customizable as Wordpress nor has as many plugins that make Wordpress as powerful as it is as a website platform.

Wordpress leaves the user with options that can grow with you.
 
My site is Wordpress. Sorry, I can;t remember what theme I used, but it was a very simple, free one from Wordpress. If you're not planning on utilizing the Wordpress blog features, you might want to reconsider. Blogging is one of the best ways to increase your appeal to search engines. I post articles designed to be of interest to my clients, and find that I get responses from people who have found them interesting. This increases my site's activity and makes it more visible to search engines.
 
I really like your landscapes, get them in a decent picture library and see what happens. As I don't know where in the world you are, track down your local tourist place, nearly everywhere has one, and see if they are after pics for brochures, calendars etc.



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Have a look at my wedding photography website here:

www.thomasstewart.com.au

I'm running the latest wordpress install with Pro Photo 4 by netrivet. Awesome for DIY site building and maintenance / blogging. I built the site myself and I do all the blogging myself too so this was important.

Obviously there is lots of white space on my site and it is very minimalist. This is exactly what I wanted as I want my photos to be the main attraction.

I'd thoroughly recommend both wordpress and prophoto :)
 
Hmmm. Not sure I understand your sentiment here.

From a Search Engine Optimization point of view, getting extra traffic is good, getting a link to your site from a popular site such as DPreview will increase your pagerank, which will all add up to making your site more prominent when people go searching for a photographer.

I would think it is a GOOD thing.
 
Jeff

Penguin makes some great points. You want to be found. You also want organic traffic, whether its through clicking links here, or elsewhere. Links from dpreview are nofollow, but don't let that stop you from posting links here. Google still knows where your visitors have come from, and measures their engagement on your site- how long they were there- and how many pages they visited. These factors play a big part in ranking, even from nofollow links. Visits are visits! Good visits are good, bad visits are bad.

I do all my own SEO, and for 6 months last year, I had top front page organic position for wedding photographers melbourne as well as midway front page for wedding photography melbourne. These were the hottest search terms (by volume), and they brought a staggering number of organic visitors- but very little business. What DID pull the business were the keywords we- as photogs- would seldom think to gun for, and each area,market,demographic would be different. PM me if you need an SEO for hire!

Wordpress is your swiss army knife web publishing platform.

There are better. Joomla is really good, if you can get some hacks into the core php files and some of the system files which run it. Not just "seo friendly URL" instruction via htaccess, but some good hard core operating hacks, which result in leaner, cleaner code and better indexing (and ranking).

The above also applies to Drupal.

If you make your own page design in photoshop, it can be converted to wordpress, joomla or drupal (by me!) so it's your very own design. Sometimes nothing out there is "quite" what you want... It's (for me) quicker to design and carve up a PSD to a CMS template, than spend ages searching the web.

Straight html is great- but if you add a new nav bar item, and you already have 50 pages- you need to cut and paste the new nav bar item into the other 49 pages! So a CMS (content management system) makes sense.

Javascript menus look great with their effects, and javascript is beginning to get easier for Google to crawl. Have a text menu down the side and/or create (or have your web designer) create css generated menu effects instead.

There are many other points, send me a PM if you need some heavy level help.

CMS sites are vulnerable to hacking if not maintained. The actual system files rarely cause the weakness- it is usually the lack of updated extension files which provide the vulnerabilities for attackers to exploit.

The most common hacks are redirecting all your hard-won organic search traffic to a dodgy web site selling viagra (charming for your clients to see!!) while your direct (typing your URL in the browser) visits reveal nothing untoward. The hacker pirates your organic traffic. Keep your system and extensions updated, and you'll be sweet.

A really good web host will alert you about multiple failed log ins, or an attempted mysql injection. If your site gets hacked contact your host. They generally will check server logs for the attack point, and patch it all for you- after all once the attacker is in- he is in your host's system, not just your site.

Sorry for the rant- once/if you get above the fold on page 1 organic for the right terms, you'll understand why the effort is worth it. I have let my site slip, because we are very buoyant with work, and SEO takes time and effort! After I reassess what to do next (whether stay with the weddings, or pursue a different stream) I'll look at SEO again. Whatever it is, you can be sure that way up on page 1 organic, is where we'll aim for.

There is a LOT of conjecture with SEO and web design... don't let it look amateur, and if you possibly can- stay away from adwords!

cheers

Proshooter
 
Retinafolio is intriguing but I'd like to see some sample websites using the customizable portfolio option. I cannot locate any samples on the Retinafolio website...
 
I just got my wordpress site up and running and I love it because it's cheap and can look professional if you buy a good theme and customize it properly. What else I like is because its cms it is super easy to modify and revamp your site. Of course the blog feature is built in to. I would recommend paying for a professional theme geared towards photographers. themeforest is where I bought mine. I bought the expression theme. The other nice thing is that wordpress has a ton of plugins to create all sorts of mods to your site.




please feel free to check out my site at www.joshuagrasso.com
 
sarahashleyphotos wrote:

Just for a example of using zenfolio to its fullist potential : http://www.sarahashleyphotos.com. I believe i have customized it as much as possible.
Sarah - I like the way you customized your zenfolio site. I guess I have to look a little deeper into the customization options. I just setup mine here: www.peteralessandriaphotography.com

The one glaring omission I find with zenfolio is there is no zoom option - visitors can't enlarge an image/zoom in to see detail. I hope it's something they add soon.
 
28to70 wrote:

The problem with posting one's website is that not only will you be looking at it but a zillion other people from Dpreview. I don't want to have to deal with that on my site's stats. I have enough problems with my competition weasels hitting on me from Google to drive up my costs.
I'm certainly no Pro but have a website anyway and have moved to Wordpress which allows me to update the site from anywhere on any equipment that has internet connection as opposed to having just one Desktop PC running Dreamweaver at home.

There are some great WP themes available now for photographers including those by Matthew Campagna of "The Turning Gate"
 
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jbsmith wrote:

Hi,

I'm not sure if this is the correct forum, but I didn't really see one that was appropriate. However I am considering redoing my website and and am looking for inspiration by looking at other pro photographers websites. Mostly in the portrait photography realm (specifically newborns, maternity, and families).

Additionally I'm contemplating moving my website to a wordpress system instead of what I'm currently running which is more of a home-grown system.

That said if you'd like to show of your site - I'd love to see them. If your running a wordpress site and your comfortable saying so, it would be great if you shared the theme name as well.

Many thanks

Jeff
Hi Jeff,

I'm a digital illustrator rather than a photographer, but there's lots of overlaps when it comes to website configurations. I built my own site and paid for hosting for many years, but a little over a year ago, when apple killed their mobileme photo sharing service, I went shopping, and decided on Zenfolio.com. It costs about the same as hosting, but includes printing and ecommerce services built in - aimed at photographers. It allows you to set up galleries with a few clicks, and password them for specific clients... very wedding photographer centric. Been loving them. Easy to brand it all yours with no flavor from Zenfolio Branding.

www.daveseeley.com
 
I use wordpress on my company site (www.frammenti.eu) with a free theme. I can't remember which one but it is implemented with lots of plugins customizing it at 90% from original aspect and functions.

There is a lot of SEO and optimized code inside it.

Hope this helps.
 
Hi folks,

I'm a web developer and amateur photographer, so I'll drop in and add another perspective.

I think most of you have the right idea by looking for an out-of-the-box solution, like Wordpress or Zenfolio, and then customizing it.

I strongly recommend against a "homegrown solution." I'm not saying that it can't fulfill someone's needs in the short term, but there are a lot of pitfalls:

1. You have to learn HTML and CSS, at least well enough to copy and paste. The problem is that you won't be very good at web design, so you will eventually get stuck fighting the quirks of those languages. If you want any dynamic features on your site (e.g. click on a thumbnail to open up a larger image in the same page), then you will also need to learn some Javascript. That's 3 languages.


2. If you spend time to learn HTML and CSS in order to become good with them... is that actually an efficient use of your time for your business? Are you excited about layout and typography? If you plan on doing a lot of web design, maybe it's worthwhile. But if you are a pro photographer, it's probably not efficient to learn web design just to make your portfolio site. Your time is probably best spent on actually doing photography and marketing.

3. Your homegrown solution will be brittle and difficult to maintain if its bigger than 2 pages. For instance, say you have images with a caption that appears on multiple pages. If you want to change the caption in static HTML, you have to change it on all those pages. In a CMS ("Content Management System") like Wordpress, you only have to change the caption once, and the change gets reflected everywhere. This saves you a bunch of searching through pages and copy/pasting, which is time-consuming and error prone. There is a reason that pro web developers don't make sites in static HTML anymore.

4. You can't store any data, like customer data.


Wordpress is a better solution. It's very powerful, and a great solution for someone who wants a highly customized site.

Nevertheless, I think many people would be served by completely prebuilt platforms, like Zenfolio or SquareSpace (http://www.squarespace.com/).

Here are some issues with Wordpress:

1. Power. Wordpress is very powerful because you have access to the source code. This means that it be customized extensively with themes, plugins, and customizations of those themes and plugins. The problem is that a lot of this power is difficult to harness, and it costs development time. I would question if most photographers actually need the customizability that Wordpress can provide. To harness that power, you need:


2. Themes and plugins. Themes and plugins can be very powerful, but this power comes at a price. First, you have to find the ones you want, and read comparisons/reviews, which can become a massive time-sink itself. Second, themes/plugins can have bugs, or they can be incompatible and break each other.

There may be not way to fix those issues without looking into the code, and you should not be looking at code unless you are a web developer, or you want to become a web developer, or you think code looks pretty.

If you can quickly find the themes and plugins that you like, and they all play nice with each other, then you are golden. But if something goes wrong, then its expensive in developer time.


3. Themes only limited customization options. Some themes are more powerful than others. Zenfolio or SquareSpace may actually have better customization options than many themes. Yes, *in principle* Wordpress and its themes are infinitely customizable, but in practice, this customizability costs developer time, which is expensive.


4. Performance and hosting. Zenfolio and SquareSpace are hosted by those companies, meaning that you don't have to screw around with hosting. Also, those platforms will be optimized for performance. If you are running a small Wordpress site on a single server, and the traffic is low, then performance won't make a difference. But if you are expecting more traffic, and serving many/big images, then performance can become an issue. An advantage of SquareSpace (and Zenfolio, I think) is that they host the images on a CDN (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_delivery_network) so they can be served quickly. Wordpress can be integrated with a CDN and tuned for performance (I've done it), but you really don't want to be messing around with that unless you are a web developer.

In short, Wordpress is a powerful platform, but unless you get lucky with themes/plugins exactly fitting your needs, then you need to be a developer (or hire one) to get the most out of the platform. The subset of Wordpress that is friendly to non-developers is significantly smaller than the whole thing.


Website platforms like Zenfolio and SquareSpace are not infinitely customizable, because you don't have access to the source code, but I wouldn't rule them out until you've checked out their feature lists and determined something you need that they don't have. You may be also be able to experiment with a developer version free, or at a lower cost and try it out.

These platforms cost a bit more money than self-hosting Wordpress on a crappy server, but they will give you stuff that Wordpress doesn't give you by default: professional-looking web design (you need to pay for a premium theme to get this on Wordpress), a professional interface, and performance / CDN. Their design customizability seems at least as good as Wordpress themes.


If you use Zenfolio or SquareSpace, make sure to get a custom domain name (e.g. yourdomain.com, not yourdomain.zenfolio.com) for credibility. A subdomain of another website doesn't look professional. (If you are hiring someone, make sure that you own the domain, not them.)

Like photography, web development is a craft with a lot of depth. It takes graphic design skills, and also coding skills. I think most professional photographers are smart people, and you probably could develop yourself a portfolio site if you wanted to. BUT, I think you should ask yourself: what is the business justification for taking on this work myself?

If you start doing web development, then you are a GWC ("Guy With Computer" or "Gal with Computer", to spoof the common "Guy With Camera" label). It will take you about 2-20x as long to solve any problem as it would a professional web developer, if you even can. If you spend your own time on web development to "save money," that time isn't free, because you could have instead been spending it on photography or marketing. Even if you aren't writing code, evaluating and installing Wordpress themes and plugins can take monstrous amounts of time.


(Yes, your website will be useful for marketing, but you spending hours on HTML, CSS, or debugging plugins is *not* marketing. It's a distraction from your core competencies.)

So, I strongly suggest that whatever solution you go with, you try to make sure that you don't write any code. I would also advise staying out of .htaccess files, and DNS (domain configuration) records. Unless that stuff excites you, or you are already a programmer, than it's just wasted hours of your life. Some of this stuff is annoying enough even if it's your job. In my experience, being an amateur-level photographer is a lot more rewarding than being an amateur-level web developer/designer.


Let's spin this question around: If a web developer needed some product or corporate photos for a website, would it be a good use of their time to learn photography for that single project? You folks know the answer to that question.


I would strongly recommend that professional photographers strongly consider a professional web developer for their websites. If you are planning on using the website to generate revenue, then it's entirely appropriate that you invest some money into it (and use your time to develop your business, rather than spending it on web development sinkholes). Perhaps you can network with some of the web developers or web development houses in your area, contract them, and then give each other referrals in the future.

If you are a professional photographer, then many of these reasons that people should hire you are also reasons why you should hire a professional web developer. In the case of both photography and web development, a person can wing it themselves, and the quality of the results will vary depending on the time they put into it, their aptitude for the work, and how lucky they get in finding the right tutorials/resources to do what they want.


My advice for photographers would be to evaluate Zenfolio, SquareSpace, or similar solutions, and see if they do what you want. If not, look at Wordpress, and strongly consider hiring a developer to work with it, so you can focus on your core competencies of photography and marketing.
 

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