UZI vignettes in total wide mode, with no filters?

[Daniella68313]

Again i should repeat myself...it is 1.5" plus the UV filter..now how thik is the UV? not sure..but do the math...anyway, you are aguing on silly things...

so for the last time..the c700 is 4.1" with adapter tube and UV filter..the C2100 is 5.6" plus maybe .3" for the filter? so its about 1.8"..very close to 2" and since i did not mesure the c2100 with the UV filter..i got to the approximation of the lenght.

Your argument have no base and are just a waste of time..as usual.

I'm apparently not as wealthy as you. I've got to put groceries in
layaway.

Well, some people have different priority..i happen to do a lot of extreme mountain bike..then the equipement is worth every buck. but that's none of your business and i am sorry to hear you are not wealthy.

and i don't exagerate, as you could read in this post, more than 2
c2100 users have vigneting problem.

If you could read AND comprehend, the "exaggeration" I was
referring to was the size difference. See the actual text below.
Besides, at the time of your initial post about the vignetting (NOT
this thread), there were only TWO people in the thread YOU provided
a link for but you called it "LOTS of people". I agree that more
people are citing this "problem" now that attention has been drawn
to it. For some, it's a problem, for others, a minor nuisance, and
for you, ammo.

Whatever

You must have a special c2100 if you don' t have vigneting.

And you must have a special C700 if you can take handheld shots at
full zoom at 1/10'. I don't know if my C2100 would have vignetting
or not as I don't stack filters and never have so it's a moot point
in my casse.

I am surely not the only one satisfied with the C700..many people have steady hands and are happy with this camera. I saw enough good samples to see that.

Anyway....these are just cameras...get a life!

--Daniella http://www.pbase.com/zylenC7OO discussion group: http://www.homepet.com/cgi-bin/c700/UltraBoard.cgi

 

[Daniella68313]

Hey Terry! i was just curious to see your images...if you dare?

--Daniella http://www.pbase.com/zylenC7OO discussion group: http://www.homepet.com/cgi-bin/c700/UltraBoard.cgi

 

[Daniella68313]

I never saw those thin filters, i suppose they must be quite expensive. I think you would be better off buying a stepup ring though, i think this will probably reduce or totally eliminate your vigneting.

The thing is..if new C2100 owners know about this problem right from the begining, they will not buy all sort of filters in 49mm, but they will get stepup ring and 55mm filters..

I don't think it has anything to do with cheap Ritz filters...has i
am using only cheap filters and i don,t have any vigneting..i think
its combinaison of the C2100 lens and filters. May be its just too
long to handle filters right. I know Olympus designed the C700
very differently and it was probably to avoid vigneting.

At first i thought it was strange that they would design the camera
with the outer tube wider than the lens...now i understand the
idea... NO vigneting even when stacking UV and 2 closeup filters.
NO vigneting when stacking UV and PL, all this at full wide angle.

If you have this with of without the filters, i would think its the
camera lens that is designed that way.

--Daniella http://www.pbase.com/zylenC7OO discussion group: http://www.homepet.com/cgi-bin/c700/UltraBoard.cgi

 

[Atlanta-Mike]

Jay, I have not had time to run another test yet. I will do this weekend and post my results then.

Mike H

Hello Mike

Many mikes on this thread!
Anyway, I am curious how your results turned out to be...
can u inform us?

I just did a test on a white wall, using flash and not flash
and I seem to get that slight vignetting even without the filters
or the stepup right - shows very slight vignetting at neutral
condition. Weird.

looking forward to your reply

jAy

 

[Mike S40523]

That is NOT vignetting .. can't you see the gradual gradation from the center?

That,s not flash falloff flash does not have such sharp
edge..that look like vigneting to me...

The light from the flash is spreading out evenly and does not
produce an edge, at least not on the C700, it fade out very softly
so you don't realy notice it.

 

[Juli Valley]

Funny that you mention that, because i brought that up in another
thread and one angry C2100 user said he never have vigneting with
the UV filter on, and he says he can even stack UV and PL and never
get vigneting..i think he was lying

I've never had this vignetting problem at 38mm. --21oo, B-3oo3o4oJuli

 

[Daniella68313]

sorry, i did not know the c2100 had a flash like a spot light..it does not do the same thing with my camera and the flash falloff is too smooth to be noticable.

Anyway, some people mentioned having this without the flash..so don't know.

That,s not flash falloff flash does not have such sharp
edge..that look like vigneting to me...

The light from the flash is spreading out evenly and does not
produce an edge, at least not on the C700, it fade out very softly
so you don't realy notice it.

--Daniella http://www.pbase.com/zylenC7OO discussion group: http://www.homepet.com/cgi-bin/c700/UltraBoard.cgi

 

[Daniella68313]

You don,t have vigneting while using a UV filter and a Polarizer at the widest angle?

this is strange..maybe some c2100 have wider lens than other? i wonder why some people do and some people don't. I will check the c2100 that we have at work.

Funny that you mention that, because i brought that up in another
thread and one angry C2100 user said he never have vigneting with
the UV filter on, and he says he can even stack UV and PL and never
get vigneting..i think he was lying

I've never had this vignetting problem at 38mm.
--
21oo, B-3oo
3o4o
Juli

--Daniella http://www.pbase.com/zylenC7OO discussion group: http://www.homepet.com/cgi-bin/c700/UltraBoard.cgi

 

[Terry Thorn]

Again i should repeat myself...it is 1.5" plus the UV filter..now
how thik is the UV? not sure..but do the math...anyway, you are
aguing on silly things...

so for the last time..the c700 is 4.1" with adapter tube and UV
filter..the C2100 is 5.6" plus maybe .3" for the filter? so its
about 1.8"..very close to 2" and since i did not mesure the c2100
with the UV filter..i got to the approximation of the lenght.

Your argument have no base and are just a waste of time..as usual.

You just juggle the "facts" around until they say what you want them to... as usual. You just seem to want to justify your mistake to yourself, I suppose.

I'm apparently not as wealthy as you. I've got to put groceries in
layaway.

Well, some people have different priority..i happen to do a lot of
extreme mountain bike..then the equipement is worth every buck. but
that's none of your business and i am sorry to hear you are not
wealthy.

Maybe you needed that extra weight on your mountain bike which will help shave it off you.

and i don't exagerate, as you could read in this post, more than 2
c2100 users have vigneting problem.

If you could read AND comprehend, the "exaggeration" I was
referring to was the size difference. See the actual text below.
Besides, at the time of your initial post about the vignetting (NOT
this thread), there were only TWO people in the thread YOU provided
a link for but you called it "LOTS of people". I agree that more
people are citing this "problem" now that attention has been drawn
to it. For some, it's a problem, for others, a minor nuisance, and
for you, ammo.

Whatever

Facts are facts, Daniella. And your answer is "whatever" when you can't refute them.

You must have a special c2100 if you don' t have vigneting.

And you must have a special C700 if you can take handheld shots at
full zoom at 1/10'. I don't know if my C2100 would have vignetting
or not as I don't stack filters and never have so it's a moot point
in my casse.

I am surely not the only one satisfied with the C700..many people
have steady hands and are happy with this camera. I saw enough
good samples to see that.

I've also seen many people question YOUR steady hands and these are OTHER C700 owners.

Anyway....these are just cameras...get a life!

You could do well to take your own advice and get over your mistake.

 

[Terry Thorn]

Hey Terry! i was just curious to see your images...if you dare?

http://www.pbase.com/terry_thorn/inbox

 

[Daniella68313]

My answer as Whatever is because i am sick and tired of discussing with an immature person such as you...

As for your gallery, some photos are very nice...some you should remove the CA, i am refering to the lion picture...it would look better without it.

Also they are very small size.. and hard to judge the quality of a small pic like that.

As for my mountain bike..its good enough without weight..as i can see from the photo..if its you..you don't really care about weight anyway

Again i should repeat myself...it is 1.5" plus the UV filter..now
how thik is the UV? not sure..but do the math...anyway, you are
aguing on silly things...

so for the last time..the c700 is 4.1" with adapter tube and UV
filter..the C2100 is 5.6" plus maybe .3" for the filter? so its
about 1.8"..very close to 2" and since i did not mesure the c2100
with the UV filter..i got to the approximation of the lenght.

Your argument have no base and are just a waste of time..as usual.

You just juggle the "facts" around until they say what you want
them to... as usual. You just seem to want to justify your mistake
to yourself, I suppose.

I'm apparently not as wealthy as you. I've got to put groceries in
layaway.

Well, some people have different priority..i happen to do a lot of
extreme mountain bike..then the equipement is worth every buck. but
that's none of your business and i am sorry to hear you are not
wealthy.

Maybe you needed that extra weight on your mountain bike which will
help shave it off you.

and i don't exagerate, as you could read in this post, more than 2
c2100 users have vigneting problem.

If you could read AND comprehend, the "exaggeration" I was
referring to was the size difference. See the actual text below.
Besides, at the time of your initial post about the vignetting (NOT
this thread), there were only TWO people in the thread YOU provided
a link for but you called it "LOTS of people". I agree that more
people are citing this "problem" now that attention has been drawn
to it. For some, it's a problem, for others, a minor nuisance, and
for you, ammo.

Whatever

Facts are facts, Daniella. And your answer is "whatever" when you
can't refute them.

You must have a special c2100 if you don' t have vigneting.

And you must have a special C700 if you can take handheld shots at
full zoom at 1/10'. I don't know if my C2100 would have vignetting
or not as I don't stack filters and never have so it's a moot point
in my casse.

I am surely not the only one satisfied with the C700..many people
have steady hands and are happy with this camera. I saw enough
good samples to see that.

I've also seen many people question YOUR steady hands and these are
OTHER C700 owners.

Anyway....these are just cameras...get a life!

You could do well to take your own advice and get over your mistake.

--Daniella http://www.pbase.com/zylenC7OO discussion group: http://www.homepet.com/cgi-bin/c700/UltraBoard.cgi 'The things you own will only endup owning you'

 

[Daniella68313]

well i saw all you pictures...you should also remove the CA on your garden pic..its quite bad..in fact i have not got suck bad CA in any on my pic. Usually what ever is there cannot be seing when the pictures is rescaled..on your garden pic and the lion..it is even noticable at this small size.

Also the color is a bit greenish...i would do some color balancing on it.

Hey Terry! i was just curious to see your images...if you dare?

http://www.pbase.com/terry_thorn/inbox

--Daniella http://www.pbase.com/zylenC7OO discussion group: http://www.homepet.com/cgi-bin/c700/UltraBoard.cgi 'The things you own will only endup owning you'

 

[Terry Thorn]

well i saw all you pictures...you should also remove the CA on your
garden pic..its quite bad..in fact i have not got suck bad CA in
any on my pic. Usually what ever is there cannot be seing when the
pictures is rescaled..on your garden pic and the lion..it is even
noticable at this small size.

I guess you're trying to say that your C700 doesn't have any CA? Or do you just edit it out?

 

[Terry Thorn]

My answer as Whatever is because i am sick and tired of discussing
with an immature person such as you...

You're a fine one to talk.

As for your gallery, some photos are very nice...some you should
remove the CA, i am refering to the lion picture...it would look
better without it.

Thanks.

Also they are very small size.. and hard to judge the quality of a
small pic like that.

Well I didn't know they were going to be "judged" when I posted them.

As for my mountain bike..its good enough without weight..as i can
see from the photo..if its you..you don't really care about weight
anyway

At least I'm confident enough in my appearance to show it to others. Apparently, you aren't. BTW, is English your primary language?

 

[Daniella68313]

So far i had no trouble with CA..but if i would have had images with so much CA like yours, i would have had edited it out for sure.

Well its just a comment to improve your pictures and i think with would look better without it, but it does prove that the c2100 can produce lot of CA, more than i ever got in any of my shots.

I think it has to do the the positon of the sun and the exposure, but so far i have no problem. I had a little bit in some pictures..but once rescale to about 1000 x 800, you don't see it at all, it is small enough to desapear.

well i saw all you pictures...you should also remove the CA on your
garden pic..its quite bad..in fact i have not got suck bad CA in
any on my pic. Usually what ever is there cannot be seing when the
pictures is rescaled..on your garden pic and the lion..it is even
noticable at this small size.

I guess you're trying to say that your C700 doesn't have any CA? Or
do you just edit it out?

--Daniella http://www.pbase.com/zylenC7OO discussion group: http://www.homepet.com/cgi-bin/c700/UltraBoard.cgi 'The things you own will only endup owning you'

 

[Daniella68313]

Nope, i am French, and you can see my picture on my 3d site at http://www.3dartist.ca along with my 3d work.

My answer as Whatever is because i am sick and tired of discussing
with an immature person such as you...

You're a fine one to talk.

As for your gallery, some photos are very nice...some you should
remove the CA, i am refering to the lion picture...it would look
better without it.

Thanks.

Also they are very small size.. and hard to judge the quality of a
small pic like that.

Well I didn't know they were going to be "judged" when I posted them.

As for my mountain bike..its good enough without weight..as i can
see from the photo..if its you..you don't really care about weight
anyway

At least I'm confident enough in my appearance to show it to
others. Apparently, you aren't. BTW, is English your primary
language?

--Daniella http://www.pbase.com/zylenC7OO discussion group: http://www.homepet.com/cgi-bin/c700/UltraBoard.cgi 'The things you own will only endup owning you'