Upgrade from A6400 to A6700: my questions

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I currently have a Sony A6400, the 16-55G and the 70-350G. After the price for a the A6700 has fallen quite a bit, I have thought about an upgrade. Has anyone switched from 6400 to 6700 and can help me with my questions? I am generally very happy and thus uncertain if an upgrade would make sense at all. I hardly use video, only photography, mainly kids and family, BIF, landscapes and planes. What annoys me about the 6400 is the crappy smartphone connection, the menu system, the lack of a proper touchscreen and the old micro-USB-port.

1. Some reviewers say that the A6700's low light performance is worse. Is this true? Do you see a difference in real world performance?

2. IQ in general: color science, sharpness, dynamic range: is there a noticeable difference?

3. How much of a difference does IBIS make?

4. How much better is the new menu system and the touch screen functionality?

5. Is it much easier to connect the camera to your smartphone? The implementation on my A6400 is so bad that I use a card reader to transfer the pictures. How fast is the transfer over wifi?

6. How much better is the AF? Does it only add subject recognition or is it generally faster and more accurate?

7. How much better is the battery in real life use?
 
Not a lot of help here. I used an A6400 for a couple of years and it was supplanted by an a7Riv. I kind of recently added an A6700 and it's the "new" second camera. What I haven't done is controlled critical comparisons nor was I typically stressing the edges of performance with the A6400. I really like the A6400 and might be a bit skeptical or careful about review or forum comments that one or the other is "noisier," or that there are IQ type differences. Controlled tests may show things like that but how the "differences," if any, actually show up in real use might be harder to actually see.
I currently have a Sony A6400, the 16-55G and the 70-350G. After the price for a the A6700 has fallen quite a bit, I have thought about an upgrade. Has anyone switched from 6400 to 6700 and can help me with my questions? I am generally very happy and thus uncertain if an upgrade would make sense at all. I hardly use video, only photography, mainly kids and family, BIF, landscapes and planes. What annoys me about the 6400 is the crappy smartphone connection, the menu system, the lack of a proper touchscreen and the old micro-USB-port.
Like the new usb-c connectivity, if nothing else I'm not chasing two different cord types nearly as much.
1. Some reviewers say that the A6700's low light performance is worse. Is this true? Do you see a difference in real world performance?
Untested (by me) as such, I don't know that it's a real world issue. I'll run a noise reduction in post if I think necessary. I do get different results to some extent with the different programs. I haven't compared A6400 to A6700 directly.
2. IQ in general: color science, sharpness, dynamic range: is there a noticeable difference?
Same, I haven't done anything formal to compare. haven't noticed anything significant - to me.
3. How much of a difference does IBIS make?

4. How much better is the new menu system and the touch screen functionality?
It's a "new" camera to me so it's taking some time to get used to it. It does seemed to be arranged more clearly. So, I'd say "better," with the caveat that not sure how important that is for other users. I like the touch screeen functionality but not used to it fully and have fat-fingered things some or accidentally hit things at times.
5. Is it much easier to connect the camera to your smartphone? The implementation on my A6400 is so bad that I use a card reader to transfer the pictures. How fast is the transfer over wifi?
Never tried connecting them. I do tend to use a cable or card reader for file transfers.
6. How much better is the AF? Does it only add subject recognition or is it generally faster and more accurate?
I think there are more subject options. I've casually tried some and they seem to work well. The A6400 usually worked well and fast enough for me. Others may have more specific or critical applications and uses to compare as to accuracy and speed, etc.
7. How much better is the battery in real life use?
Better, yes. Like the usb-c cable, it's the same as used with the A7Riv so there is a commonality enhancement for me. too.

I like the A6700, a number of improvements or changes. I'm glad I added it. I'm not sure I really "needed" to.
 
I currently have a Sony A6400, the 16-55G and the 70-350G. After the price for a the A6700 has fallen quite a bit, I have thought about an upgrade. Has anyone switched from 6400 to 6700 and can help me with my questions? I am generally very happy and thus uncertain if an upgrade would make sense at all. I hardly use video, only photography, mainly kids and family, BIF, landscapes and planes. What annoys me about the 6400 is the crappy smartphone connection, the menu system, the lack of a proper touchscreen and the old micro-USB-port.

1. Some reviewers say that the A6700's low light performance is worse. Is this true? Do you see a difference in real world performance?

2. IQ in general: color science, sharpness, dynamic range: is there a noticeable difference?
Forget about that. Unless you are pixel peeping, IQ is going to be the very same. 2 MPx is just no difference and sensors are just too good in both cases.

I haven't made any direct comparison between my old NX1 and my new a6700 (because of the broken lens and because I don't care) but I don't miss the 2 MPx I've lost in the transition and I feel IQ is more or less the same no matter what noise and dynamic range technical graphs say (as example photonstophotos.net where a6700 is "better" than NX1).

DON'T TAKE YOUR DECISION (either yes or no) BECAUSE OF THIS.
3. How much of a difference does IBIS make?
A LOT in the right circumstances. (Static target and not excess of light, ie interiors).

Haven't you ever used either it or a stabilized lens?

As example: From my old Canon 7D (stabilized lens) to my former Samsung NX1 (stabilized lens) to my brand new 6700 I am capable of consistently shooting at 1/6th when in 50-55mm. Or even 1/4th with a lucky shot. (2s self-timer obviously and being well rested, relaxed and concentrated and with a extremely tight grip and through viewfinder so the camera also lays on my face). And that's a lot of feasible ISO gain and therefore IQ, much much much more than the difference in sensor intrinsic IQ.

(But also remember to turn it off when shooting on tripod. In that situation, IS blurries your picture rather than sharpening it, because it continues to work when it shouldn't).

And also remember it's not magic (although sometimes it feels like it). You must focus on what you are doing. IS is not going to work with carefree shooting. You need a very tight grip.
4. How much better is the new menu system and the touch screen functionality?
At least for me, menu organization is just another irrelevant thing. You get used to whichever one that camera or brand uses. I'd never ever change my camera because of this.

I don't really use touchscreen, (I'm an old buttons-dials-and-viewfinder guy), but it offers "touch and start tracking with no need to half-press shutter button". Also it offers full access to all shooting capabilities or even a touch shooting button which can be very useful while in tripod or a selfie picture.

I haven't really used it but I feel it is quite comprehensive and useful in the right circumstances along the fully articulated screen
5. Is it much easier to connect the camera to your smartphone? The implementation on my A6400 is so bad that I use a card reader to transfer the pictures. How fast is the transfer over wifi?
I don't use these features. But I've swapped from card reader (with Samsung) to directly use the camera (MTP connection, not MassStorage one) because Sony folder and file naming system is quite weird with movies and stills with different names and locations... NX1 was much clear with just date and a consecutive number in each file.
6. How much better is the AF? Does it only add subject recognition or is it generally faster and more accurate?
I cannot compare with 6400 but with NX1 it is just worlds ahead. Now I just use AF-C and tracking nearly 99% of the time. I mean I use AF-C even with static targets and its great tracking allows you to recompose without needing to manually move the focus point in most of the situations. (Being an old button guy, as I formerly said, I even don't have any direct access to Focus Mode any more but I use FN menu instead...)

And yes target recognition (humans, animals and birds at least not moving extremely fast) works pretty, pretty well. There are some misses but they're pretty few.

In my old NX1, AF-C was neither precise nor reliable. You had to use AF-S in general and when forced to use it with moving subjects, you had to pray to whichever god or devil you believed in.
7. How much better is the battery in real life use?
Again a nearly unimportant issue. People/reviews say that it's way better because of the bigger battery. But I think you must always have at least two more spare and fully charged batteries. In this way you forget about charging the battery in the camera till it depletes, (even at the beginning of your day), and two fully charged batteries should last a full day no matter what you do (in normal conditions, I mean). This is a general rule for any camera.

The important thing here, that I don't know if it happened in 6400, is that 6700, like every single new Sony camera, "does not support" third party batteries. I mean you get an annoying message at about 30s of inserting them which effectively blocks your camera till you OK it.

I'm not going to start a discussion about the risks or not risks of using third party batteries but you must know what happens in order to either live with that "unexpected block message till OKed" or expend more money on Sony batteries.
 
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Hi,

perhaps worth to keep in mind:

1) A different battery, which means also new spare is needed (my a6400 is the same as my RX10Mk3 and Mk1 so a total of 4 batteries of the same type is fine a is still holding me back from the upgrade)

2) As a RAW shooter new RAW conversion SW is needed that supports the new cam.

What triggers my interest though are the improvements of the AF system. The additional MP or IBIS not that much since my lenses are OSS stabilized.
 
Also consider, that a6700 loose HDR and Multi Frame Noise Reduction modes.

I am frequenly use HDR in daylight, so a6600 is my choice and next camera will not be a sony apsc.
 
I currently have a Sony A6400, the 16-55G and the 70-350G. After the price for a the A6700 has fallen quite a bit, I have thought about an upgrade. Has anyone switched from 6400 to 6700 and can help me with my questions? I am generally very happy and thus uncertain if an upgrade would make sense at all. I hardly use video, only photography, mainly kids and family, BIF, landscapes and planes. What annoys me about the 6400 is the crappy smartphone connection, the menu system, the lack of a proper touchscreen and the old micro-USB-port.

1. Some reviewers say that the A6700's low light performance is worse. Is this true? Do you see a difference in real world performance?
Not really and if there is any at all it is negligible.
2. IQ in general: color science, sharpness, dynamic range: is there a noticeable difference?
I dont experience much difference when it comes to RAW but the Jpeg's roll out of the camera much better in comparison to previous models.
3. How much of a difference does IBIS make?
It does make a difference for static objects but doesnt do anything when shooting action.
4. How much better is the new menu system and the touch screen functionality?
The new menu system is lightyears ahead of the old system, the interface it provides is very well structured, logical and makes for a much better user experience.
5. Is it much easier to connect the camera to your smartphone? The implementation on my A6400 is so bad that I use a card reader to transfer the pictures. How fast is the transfer over wifi?
I never bothered using any smartphone functionality with any of the previous models, the quality just wasnt up to it. The a6700 however does a much better job there, it is easy to connect it to the phone and it doesnt lose connection easily. There is some latency involved still though, the response between cam and phone wont be instant and the same goes for file-transfer speeds. Despite the fact for the cam to send a much reduced-in-size file to the phone the transfer doesnt make for a fast and responsive experience (at all).
6. How much better is the AF? Does it only add subject recognition or is it generally faster and more accurate?
The AF aquisition speeds and also the 'stickyness' are much better, tracking movement is a breeze with this camera. Compared to everything that came before it the a6700 is just way faster, no more waiting for the camera to come alive whenever any (un)expectedly fast flying birds appear but just instantly ready to focus, track and shoot.

Accuracy has also gone up as the high amount of keepers have forced me to review my old habits completely. I used to take a lot of shots, to atleast end up with a few good keepers, but which now has become something of the past as almost every shot is sharp. Even so much so that with the first few outings I ended up with way too many good images and found myself spending too much time culling captures preventing filling up the drives too fast.
7. How much better is the battery in real life use?
I used to take several batteries with me, always atleast 3, while now it is only the one battery that came with the camera. I find no need for spare batteries anymore.
 
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I came from the A-mount A-68 which I thought was a pretty nice wildlife camera using the Sony 70-400mm G2. I now use the A-6700 with the Sony 100-400mm. For me, the AF system alone is worth the price of admission. If there is an eye in the scene, regardless of location, the A-6700 will find it and lock perfect focus. It really is amazing. For landscapes, probably not any difference though. The in body stabilization works well if you have lenses w/o OSS.

The menu system has a folder (My Menu) where you can add frequently used functions. Pretty handy for quick access. I mainly use it for formatting the memory card and changing to the 2 or 10 second timer. Overall, the menus are pretty complicated but the camera is very customizable.

As far as image quality, I don't think you'll see much difference given all the new AI software out there for RAW shooters. Maybe slightly more dynamic range but it's pretty minimal. 24mp ---> 26mp, I doubt you will notice the difference.

Dials: Having a shutter and aperture dial is nice with a touch of the control wheel for ISO. Generally, you can set up and won't have to do any menu diving unless you are doing a specialized shoot.

Finally, here's a link to a wildlife setup for the Sony A1, but the A-6700 is very similar. It's long and somewhat complicated, but well worth watching if you are a wildlife photographer:

 
I currently have a Sony A6400, the 16-55G and the 70-350G. After the price for a the A6700 has fallen quite a bit, I have thought about an upgrade. Has anyone switched from 6400 to 6700 and can help me with my questions? I am generally very happy and thus uncertain if an upgrade would make sense at all. I hardly use video, only photography, mainly kids and family, BIF, landscapes and planes. What annoys me about the 6400 is the crappy smartphone connection, the menu system, the lack of a proper touchscreen and the old micro-USB-port.

1. Some reviewers say that the A6700's low light performance is worse. Is this true? Do you see a difference in real world performance?
I bought the 6400 when it was released. I upgraded to 6700 when it was released.

I haven't noticed any difference in low light performance. I don't agree with those who speak of the noise at higher ISO. Furthermore, IBIS lets me shoot static subjects at slower SS's and use lower ISO.
2. IQ in general: color science, sharpness, dynamic range: is there a noticeable difference?
Nope
3. How much of a difference does IBIS make?
I'd say it's very helpful. Magical? No. But a very nice addition and useful in the right situations.
4. How much better is the new menu system and the touch screen functionality?
Menu is much better. But the cam has so many options for customization that once it was set up I haven't gone back into the main menu....ever. Heck, there's prolly fun little features in there that I forgot about!
5. Is it much easier to connect the camera to your smartphone? The implementation on my A6400 is so bad that I use a card reader to transfer the pictures. How fast is the transfer over wifi?
Connecting the 6400 to the smart phone was impossible. I gave up. The 6700 is much easier. Still a little clunky but it is definitely usable.
6. How much better is the AF? Does it only add subject recognition or is it generally faster and more accurate?
Don't disregard the subject recognition. IMO it's the catalyst that puts the amazing AF into motion. I've given detailed replies to this in the past but simply put, the subject recognition is so darn good that it allows one to shoot with wide AF area as it is intended. This lets you point the cam at your subject in it'll lock on and stick. This allows me to focus (no pun) more on composition rather than moving an AF point around the screen. (I used expanded flexible spot with the 6400). Also, The eye AF of the 6700 is much better than the 6400's. As someone else mentioned, the better AF system is other the price of admission.
7. How much better is the battery in real life use?
The bigger batteries are much better. I have na extra but have never needed to use it when out for the day. Those little guys with the other cam's drove me nuts.

Pretty sure I've seen you mention in other threads that you felt the 6700 was ridiculously overpriced. While cost is relative I couldn't disagree more. For $1400 you get a one seriously amazing camera. Worth every penny. Hobbies cost money but we enjoy them. If you can swing it I wouldn't wait for it to drop in price just to save a couple hundred bucks. I always say buy once, cry once, then move on and have fun with a new toy!
 
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I currently have a Sony A6400, the 16-55G and the 70-350G. After the price for a the A6700 has fallen quite a bit, I have thought about an upgrade. Has anyone switched from 6400 to 6700 and can help me with my questions? I am generally very happy and thus uncertain if an upgrade would make sense at all. I hardly use video, only photography, mainly kids and family, BIF, landscapes and planes. What annoys me about the 6400 is the crappy smartphone connection, the menu system, the lack of a proper touchscreen and the old micro-USB-port.

1. Some reviewers say that the A6700's low light performance is worse. Is this true? Do you see a difference in real world performance?
I bought the 6400 when it was released. I upgraded to 6700 when it was released.

I haven't noticed any difference in low light performance. I don't agree with those who speak of the noise at higher ISO. Furthermore, IBIS lets me shoot static subjects at slower SS's and use lower ISO.
2. IQ in general: color science, sharpness, dynamic range: is there a noticeable difference?
Nope
3. How much of a difference does IBIS make?
I'd say it's very helpful. Magical? No. But a very nice addition and useful in the right situations.
4. How much better is the new menu system and the touch screen functionality?
Menu is much better. But the cam has so many options for customization that once it was set up I haven't gone back into the main menu....ever. Heck, there's prolly fun little features in there that I forgot about!
5. Is it much easier to connect the camera to your smartphone? The implementation on my A6400 is so bad that I use a card reader to transfer the pictures. How fast is the transfer over wifi?
Connecting the 6400 to the smart phone was impossible. I gave up. The 6700 is much easier. Still a little clunky but it is definitely usable.
6. How much better is the AF? Does it only add subject recognition or is it generally faster and more accurate?
Don't disregard the subject recognition. IMO it's the catalyst that puts the amazing AF into motion. I've given detailed replies to this in the past but simply put, the subject recognition is so darn good that it allows one to shoot with wide AF area as it is intended. This lets you point the cam at your subject in it'll lock on and stick. This allows me to focus (no pun) more on composition rather than moving an AF point around the screen. (I used expanded flexible spot with the 6400). Also, The eye AF of the 6700 is much better than the 6400's. As someone else mentioned, the better AF system is other the price of admission.
7. How much better is the battery in real life use?
The bigger batteries are much better. I have na extra but have never needed to use it when out for the day. Those little guys with the other cam's drove me nuts.

Pretty sure I've seen you mention in other threads that you felt the 6700 was ridiculously overpriced. While cost is relative I couldn't disagree more. For $1400 you get a one seriously amazing camera. Worth every penny. Hobbies cost money but we enjoy them. If you can swing it I wouldn't wait for it to drop in price just to save a couple hundred bucks. I always say buy once, cry once, then move on and have fun with a new toy!
Thank you for your honest reply. Yes, I still think the A6700 is overpriced. I have often seen the full frame A7C on offer for less. With my lenses, the A6700 seems to be the right upgrade but the question is if it is only, say, 20÷ better than the A6400, does that justify the huge investment?
 
I currently have a Sony A6400, the 16-55G and the 70-350G. After the price for a the A6700 has fallen quite a bit, I have thought about an upgrade. Has anyone switched from 6400 to 6700 and can help me with my questions? I am generally very happy and thus uncertain if an upgrade would make sense at all. I hardly use video, only photography, mainly kids and family, BIF, landscapes and planes. What annoys me about the 6400 is the crappy smartphone connection, the menu system, the lack of a proper touchscreen and the old micro-USB-port.

1. Some reviewers say that the A6700's low light performance is worse. Is this true? Do you see a difference in real world performance?
I bought the 6400 when it was released. I upgraded to 6700 when it was released.

I haven't noticed any difference in low light performance. I don't agree with those who speak of the noise at higher ISO. Furthermore, IBIS lets me shoot static subjects at slower SS's and use lower ISO.
2. IQ in general: color science, sharpness, dynamic range: is there a noticeable difference?
Nope
3. How much of a difference does IBIS make?
I'd say it's very helpful. Magical? No. But a very nice addition and useful in the right situations.
4. How much better is the new menu system and the touch screen functionality?
Menu is much better. But the cam has so many options for customization that once it was set up I haven't gone back into the main menu....ever. Heck, there's prolly fun little features in there that I forgot about!
5. Is it much easier to connect the camera to your smartphone? The implementation on my A6400 is so bad that I use a card reader to transfer the pictures. How fast is the transfer over wifi?
Connecting the 6400 to the smart phone was impossible. I gave up. The 6700 is much easier. Still a little clunky but it is definitely usable.
6. How much better is the AF? Does it only add subject recognition or is it generally faster and more accurate?
Don't disregard the subject recognition. IMO it's the catalyst that puts the amazing AF into motion. I've given detailed replies to this in the past but simply put, the subject recognition is so darn good that it allows one to shoot with wide AF area as it is intended. This lets you point the cam at your subject in it'll lock on and stick. This allows me to focus (no pun) more on composition rather than moving an AF point around the screen. (I used expanded flexible spot with the 6400). Also, The eye AF of the 6700 is much better than the 6400's. As someone else mentioned, the better AF system is other the price of admission.
7. How much better is the battery in real life use?
The bigger batteries are much better. I have na extra but have never needed to use it when out for the day. Those little guys with the other cam's drove me nuts.

Pretty sure I've seen you mention in other threads that you felt the 6700 was ridiculously overpriced. While cost is relative I couldn't disagree more. For $1400 you get a one seriously amazing camera. Worth every penny. Hobbies cost money but we enjoy them. If you can swing it I wouldn't wait for it to drop in price just to save a couple hundred bucks. I always say buy once, cry once, then move on and have fun with a new toy!
Thank you for your honest reply. Yes, I still think the A6700 is overpriced. I have often seen the full frame A7C on offer for less. With my lenses, the A6700 seems to be the right upgrade but the question is if it is only, say, 20÷ better than the A6400, does that justify the huge investment?
You are trying to quantify love, happiness, sadness...

There's no way anyone can say this camera is 23,47% better than that other one. How much does the better IQ FF's have score? How much does the 3rd control dial score? How much does that slow SS picture you took in the evening thanks to IBIS score?

There's just no way anybody but you, and knowing what you really like, can answer those questions. Maybe you prefer buying a 6700 or maybe you prefer spending that very same money on a holiday week somewhere using your old and good 6400.

6700 is plainly better than 6400 in nearly everything but possibly real world IQ (and its flash). Period. But maybe it's just not good enough for its price AND for you. Nobody can answer that but you.

(Before buying you can always hire one and test the camera yourself, but that's going to be more expensive than directly buying one...)
 
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It's not so much the price difference between the A6400 and A6700, but the initial difference between the A6400 and the A6600. IIRC the A6600 was about 500 or 600 more in Europe than the A6400.

The only difference being a mediocre IBIS and the larger battery. I decided for the A6400 and rather to spend the difference for a good lens.

So I keep my A6400 and hope for a successor with the same Menu and AF, but without IBIS and a smaller battery for way less money. In Germany the A6700 is €1.500,-, the A6400 was 800,- new.
 
From the points you mentioned , most obvious improvement is the AF and battery life (at least doubled battery life). I don't think you'll see any improvement connecting it with the phone . In fact it may have become more difficult as they have ditched NFC support.
 
I currently have a Sony A6400, the 16-55G and the 70-350G. After the price for a the A6700 has fallen quite a bit, I have thought about an upgrade. Has anyone switched from 6400 to 6700 and can help me with my questions? I am generally very happy and thus uncertain if an upgrade would make sense at all. I hardly use video, only photography, mainly kids and family, BIF, landscapes and planes. What annoys me about the 6400 is the crappy smartphone connection, the menu system, the lack of a proper touchscreen and the old micro-USB-port.

1. Some reviewers say that the A6700's low light performance is worse. Is this true? Do you see a difference in real world performance?
I bought the 6400 when it was released. I upgraded to 6700 when it was released.

I haven't noticed any difference in low light performance. I don't agree with those who speak of the noise at higher ISO. Furthermore, IBIS lets me shoot static subjects at slower SS's and use lower ISO.
2. IQ in general: color science, sharpness, dynamic range: is there a noticeable difference?
Nope
3. How much of a difference does IBIS make?
I'd say it's very helpful. Magical? No. But a very nice addition and useful in the right situations.
4. How much better is the new menu system and the touch screen functionality?
Menu is much better. But the cam has so many options for customization that once it was set up I haven't gone back into the main menu....ever. Heck, there's prolly fun little features in there that I forgot about!
5. Is it much easier to connect the camera to your smartphone? The implementation on my A6400 is so bad that I use a card reader to transfer the pictures. How fast is the transfer over wifi?
Connecting the 6400 to the smart phone was impossible. I gave up. The 6700 is much easier. Still a little clunky but it is definitely usable.
6. How much better is the AF? Does it only add subject recognition or is it generally faster and more accurate?
Don't disregard the subject recognition. IMO it's the catalyst that puts the amazing AF into motion. I've given detailed replies to this in the past but simply put, the subject recognition is so darn good that it allows one to shoot with wide AF area as it is intended. This lets you point the cam at your subject in it'll lock on and stick. This allows me to focus (no pun) more on composition rather than moving an AF point around the screen. (I used expanded flexible spot with the 6400). Also, The eye AF of the 6700 is much better than the 6400's. As someone else mentioned, the better AF system is other the price of admission.
7. How much better is the battery in real life use?
The bigger batteries are much better. I have na extra but have never needed to use it when out for the day. Those little guys with the other cam's drove me nuts.

Pretty sure I've seen you mention in other threads that you felt the 6700 was ridiculously overpriced. While cost is relative I couldn't disagree more. For $1400 you get a one seriously amazing camera. Worth every penny. Hobbies cost money but we enjoy them. If you can swing it I wouldn't wait for it to drop in price just to save a couple hundred bucks. I always say buy once, cry once, then move on and have fun with a new toy!
Thank you for your honest reply. Yes, I still think the A6700 is overpriced. I have often seen the full frame A7C on offer for less. With my lenses, the A6700 seems to be the right upgrade but the question is if it is only, say, 20÷ better than the A6400, does that justify the huge investment?
You are trying to quantify love, happiness, sadness...

There's no way anyone can say this camera is 23,47% better than that other one. How much does the better IQ FF's have score? How much does the 3rd control dial score? How much does that slow SS picture you took in the evening thanks to IBIS score?

There's just no way anybody but you, and knowing what you really like, can answer those questions. Maybe you prefer buying a 6700 or maybe you prefer spending that very same money on a holiday week somewhere using your old and good 6400.

6700 is plainly better than 6400 in nearly everything but possibly real world IQ (and its flash). Period. But maybe it's just not good enough for its price AND for you. Nobody can answer that but you.

(Before buying you can always hire one and test the camera yourself, but that's going to be more expensive than directly buying one...)
This is why I am asking people here how they feel about their upgrade from the A6400-A6700. If I come to the conclusion that improvements are only incremental for my photography, I will not buy the 67.
 
I have both and intend to keep both. The A6400 is a very capable camera and I could live with it by itself but decided to treat myself to the A6700.

My General Comments:
  • No real difference in photo image quality in my opinion.
  • I find the A6700 Autofocus noticeably more powerful in tough situations such as action and lowlight subject recognition and focus tracking. However, the A6400 focusing is definitely no slouch.
  • I love the new menu system. I am originally a Nikon DSLR shooter and the new layout just works for me.
  • The A6700 touchscreen in much noticeably more useable.
  • The A6700 viewfinder and rear LCD are definitely better.
  • The bigger battery is better a noticeable improvement.
  • The A6700 is more customizable.
  • The A6700 buffer is bigger and clears faster.
  • Connection to mobile device is easier on the a6700 They use different apps.
  • The A6700 grip is more comfortable especially for larger lenses, but the a6400 is smaller and can fit into one of my tiny bags more easily.
  • I love the IBIS on the A6700. Never had it before and I love to shoot lowlight scenery. The IBIS on the A6700 minimizes the need for a tripod for me. It just provides noticeable more flexibility for night photography of static subjects.
  • I prefer the ergonomics of the A6700. The Front dial and the photo-video-S&Q dial really works nicely and you have the ability to customize function menu separately for photo and video.
  • The video features of the A6700 are light years ahead of the A6400, but I am not big on video.
  • I prefer the A6400 tilt screen than the fully articulating screen.
In summary, I didn't need to the A6700, as the A6400 is very capable for what I do. However, I absolutely love the A6700 after using it for 6 months, and I can say that I have taken pictures with it which I would have struggled to capture with my a6400 in poor lighting or fast paced situations. I do think it is a bit pricy compared with the Canon R7 which is probably better for professional use with its faster mechanical shutter (1/8000th), dual card slots, and AF point joystick.

The decision to upgrade is probably down to use. Don't upgrade for photo image quality, but for almost everything else the A6700 is a more capable camera. My decision to upgrade was heart-based :). I wanted, rather than needed, all the new fancy capabilities. I haven't regretted it though. It is a noticeable step up in capability for me.... but I still love and have kept a6400. I sometimes use them together. I have attended events where I wanted to used fast primes and minimize changing out lenses. They both fit nicely in a bag like the Peak Design 10l sling and I have had fun using them together.

Good luck with your decision making
I currently have a Sony A6400, the 16-55G and the 70-350G. After the price for a the A6700 has fallen quite a bit, I have thought about an upgrade. Has anyone switched from 6400 to 6700 and can help me with my questions? I am generally very happy and thus uncertain if an upgrade would make sense at all. I hardly use video, only photography, mainly kids and family, BIF, landscapes and planes. What annoys me about the 6400 is the crappy smartphone connection, the menu system, the lack of a proper touchscreen and the old micro-USB-port.

1. Some reviewers say that the A6700's low light performance is worse. Is this true? Do you see a difference in real world performance?

2. IQ in general: color science, sharpness, dynamic range: is there a noticeable difference?

3. How much of a difference does IBIS make?

4. How much better is the new menu system and the touch screen functionality?

5. Is it much easier to connect the camera to your smartphone? The implementation on my A6400 is so bad that I use a card reader to transfer the pictures. How fast is the transfer over wifi?

6. How much better is the AF? Does it only add subject recognition or is it generally faster and more accurate?

7. How much better is the battery in real life use?
 
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I have both and intend to keep both. The A6400 is a very capable camera and I could live with it by itself but decided to treat myself to the A6700.

My General Comments:
  • No real difference in photo image quality in my opinion.
  • I find the A6700 Autofocus noticeably more powerful in tough situations such as action and lowlight subject recognition and focus tracking. However, the A6400 focusing is definitely no slouch.
  • I love the new menu system. I am originally a Nikon DSLR shooter and the new layout just works for me.
  • The A6700 touchscreen in much noticeably more useable.
  • The A6700 viewfinder and rear LCD are definitely better.
  • The bigger battery is better a noticeable improvement.
  • The A6700 is more customizable.
  • The A6700 buffer is bigger and clears faster.
  • Connection to mobile device is easier on the a6700 They use different apps.
  • The A6700 grip is more comfortable especially for larger lenses, but the a6400 is smaller and can fit into one of my tiny bags more easily.
  • I love the IBIS on the A6700. Never had it before and I love to shoot lowlight scenery. The IBIS on the A6700 minimizes the need for a tripod for me. It just provides noticeable more flexibility for night photography of static subjects.
  • I prefer the ergonomics of the A6700. The Front dial and the photo-video-S&Q dial really works nicely and you have the ability to customize function menu separately for photo and video.
  • The video features of the A6700 are light years ahead of the A6400, but I am not big on video.
  • I prefer the A6400 tilt screen than the fully articulating screen.
In summary, I didn't need to the A6700, as the A6400 is very capable for what I do. However, I absolutely love the A6700 after using it for 6 months, and I can say that I have taken pictures with it which I would have struggled to capture with my a6400 in poor lighting or fast paced situations. I do think it is a bit pricy compared with the Canon R7 which is probably better for professional use with its faster mechanical shutter (1/8000th), dual card slots, and AF point joystick.

The decision to upgrade is probably down to use. Don't upgrade for photo image quality, but for almost everything else the A6700 is a more capable camera. My decision to upgrade was heart-based :). I wanted, rather than needed, all the new fancy capabilities. I haven't regretted it though. It is a noticeable step up in capability for me.... but I still love and have kept a6400. I sometimes use them together. I have attended events where I wanted to used fast primes and minimize changing out lenses. They both fit nicely in a bag like the Peak Design 10l sling and I have had fun using them together.

Good luck with your decision making
I currently have a Sony A6400, the 16-55G and the 70-350G. After the price for a the A6700 has fallen quite a bit, I have thought about an upgrade. Has anyone switched from 6400 to 6700 and can help me with my questions? I am generally very happy and thus uncertain if an upgrade would make sense at all. I hardly use video, only photography, mainly kids and family, BIF, landscapes and planes. What annoys me about the 6400 is the crappy smartphone connection, the menu system, the lack of a proper touchscreen and the old micro-USB-port.

1. Some reviewers say that the A6700's low light performance is worse. Is this true? Do you see a difference in real world performance?

2. IQ in general: color science, sharpness, dynamic range: is there a noticeable difference?

3. How much of a difference does IBIS make?

4. How much better is the new menu system and the touch screen functionality?

5. Is it much easier to connect the camera to your smartphone? The implementation on my A6400 is so bad that I use a card reader to transfer the pictures. How fast is the transfer over wifi?

6. How much better is the AF? Does it only add subject recognition or is it generally faster and more accurate?

7. How much better is the battery in real life use?
Thank you for this comprehensive reply. This sounds just like me. So basically it comes down to whether I want to treat myself to some new features while my A6400 will be good enough for most situations.
 
I’ll try to keep this short because the long version would look like everyone else’s.

I picked up a used a6400 because AF on my a6000 couldn’t keep up with my dog (there were additional reasons). I knew Sony was going to release an updated APS-C camera, which is why I hedged on a used a6400 instead of going for an a6600, but I didn’t know when, how much it would cost, or which features it would have.

Key selling points for me were the AI-AF (I think the a6700 was the second camera to get this after the $4k a7RV), battery, ibis, and price under USD1400. My main lenses are the 70-350 and 90 macro, so camera size creep wasn’t a factor (neither of those lenses makes for a pocketable system). In this regard, the deeper hand grip of the a6700 actually helps.

If I’m setting up a static shot in good light, I’d be hard pressed to tell a difference from my a6400 (really, even the a6000). What you get with the newer models is the ability to get more usable shots as photographic conditions worsen – light, motion, cluttered scenes with misc. stuff behind, or in front of, your subject of interest. With my a6400, AF was just as happy to focus on a leaf as on the bird behind it. With the a6700, I can tell the camera which to focus on.

Basically, the shots you could get with the a6400 won’t look any better with the a6700, but you can get shots with the a6700 that you might miss with the a6400. Whether this is worth it to you will depend on, among other things, what subjects/conditions you shoot and your finances.
 
From the points you mentioned , most obvious improvement is the AF and battery life (at least doubled battery life). I don't think you'll see any improvement connecting it with the phone . In fact it may have become more difficult as they have ditched NFC support.
nope….as I stated above…it’s easier to connect smartphone (at least the iPhone) to the 6700 than it was with the 6400. It’s actually useful now.
 
From the points you mentioned , most obvious improvement is the AF and battery life (at least doubled battery life). I don't think you'll see any improvement connecting it with the phone . In fact it may have become more difficult as they have ditched NFC support.
nope….as I stated above…it’s easier to connect smartphone (at least the iPhone) to the 6700 than it was with the 6400. It’s actually useful now.
Thanks for the clarification, didn't know it's a completely different app now
 

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