The fully functional D800 AF thread - drop a line!

[Thilo]

No problems after some AF-Finetuning.

 

[Pradipta Dutta]

5tve wrote:

"One issue from the very beginning has been the "I've got no problem" folks. Those that have a perfectly functioning D800 have been quick to jump on the claims of those that are having problems with theirs. I'll remind everyone that absence of a problem on your sample doesn't mean that there wasn't a problem on other samples."

Hardly anyone said that there is no problem with D800. What people have been arguing about is not to tag the camera as largely defective when there is no evidence of large (20%-30%) percentage of defective bodies that is being portrayed on these forums as an established truth.

 

[Pradipta Dutta]

5tve wrote:

My interpretation is in your first post you estimated 3.6 million bodies by now.

This was incorrect as several posters pointed out ,

You are showing your "selective reading" characteristics. I acknowledged my decimal point mistake several times but people (you for instance) kept on pointing it out over and over again.

you also said

"Since you have heard complaints from a very small number, it is proof enough to show that a large percentage of the cameras are operating fine."

Hearing from small number of people about the problem is a fact. If you check this forum, you can find it out yourself if you know how to count. There are only a small number of people who have been repeatedly complaining about it. Again, I am not saying they don't have problem. But it is wrong to take their repeated complaints and equate it to a broader problem with the camera.

You cannot post a contentious opinion like that in this forum & not expect to draw replies that disagree with you. You have been in this forum for 7 years & you are an active member with over 9,500 posts I suspect you were knowingly acting like a kid with a stick poking a wasp's nest.

That is your opinion. But a kid always sees others' as kids play.

 

[Pradipta Dutta]

bobn2 wrote:

Thom is a professional photographer, sometime electronic engineer, writes popular books about Nikon cameras, runs a couple of popular websites. All commendable, but doesn't give any reason to believe that the data the he puts forward himself as a guesstimate is somehow unquestionable is absurd. Coming back to your post up there, that Thom stated that between 20% and 30% of the early cameras had a problem is untrue. He estimated that between 20% and 30% had a problem. He set out the basis for his estimate, and some of it was decidedly guesswork.

That has exactly been my point, Bob. As you can see, what I have been saying is that 20%-30% number, if true, is really worrisome. However, just because Thom published that number on his web site, I am not going to believe it as "fact".

 

[Longview]

Tweaked the WB to suit but never had any issues with focus or anything else. It is a demanding camera and you have to learn how to use it but it is very rewarding when you (the user) get it right.

 

[TOF guy]

Alejandrowrote:

TOF guy wrote:

Alejandro Daz del Ro Fery wrote:

That's exactly what I meant, hundreds of desperate posts of a crying person and hundreds of met silent people will reflect a false statistical.

But there were no "hundreds of posts from a crying person" when many D800 were shipping with a defective AF in the first months of production. There were a large number of users reporting defective cameras.

 

[5tve]

Pradipta Dutta wrote:

5tve wrote:

"One issue from the very beginning has been the "I've got no problem" folks. Those that have a perfectly functioning D800 have been quick to jump on the claims of those that are having problems with theirs. I'll remind everyone that absence of a problem on your sample doesn't mean that there wasn't a problem on other samples."

Hardly anyone said that there is no problem with D800. What people have been arguing about is not to tag the camera as largely defective when there is no evidence of large (20%-30%) percentage of defective bodies that is being portrayed on these forums as an established truth.

 

[RicAllan]

henrikbengtsson wrote:

It seems to me that many users are complaining about the Left AF issue on the D800 series. But then again only people with real issues seem to be active on the internet - making it a bit hard to jump to conclusions. I am fully aware of the problem but I thought maybe instead of all the whining it might be fun to hear, "my D800 is allright" (there should be plenty plenty) and whenever someone complains about Nikon (real problem or not), there's always this thread for some perspective.

So drop a line, a "+1" or whatever if your D800 AF is 100%.

Happy enough to order a second (E this time)...

 

[CraigBennett]

henrikbengtsson wrote:

It seems to me that many users are complaining about the Left AF issue on the D800 series. But then again only people with real issues seem to be active on the internet - making it a bit hard to jump to conclusions. I am fully aware of the problem but I thought maybe instead of all the whining it might be fun to hear, "my D800 is allright" (there should be plenty plenty) and whenever someone complains about Nikon (real problem or not), there's always this thread for some perspective.

So drop a line, a "+1" or whatever if your D800 AF is 100%.

Both of my D800e's are +1 on AF. Could not be happier....with both of them!

Regards,

 

[TOF guy]

moving_comfort wrote:

But the number of 20 to 30% is not a prediction.

No - and it's also not hard statistical evidence. Thom would be the first to admit that (and IIRC, he has.)

No he hasn't see his statement on the reliability of the estimate.

Continuing to use this "20 - 30%" as a fact in this thread is misleading.

It's not misleading when a stat is given with 95% confidence as he has found.