Switched from "N" to "C", and here's what I learned

[Silken]

Today I switched to Canon and here's what I learned (the only important things are #1 and #2):

1. I absolutely made the right choice (for me). I will make money with the 1Ds' advantages this summer (=waiting for a new nikon isn't worthwhile when A. there won't be one now/when I need it, and B. it will most likely not be what I'm looking for anyway-- I want Full Frame)

2. If I didn't have large demand for the benefits of my 1Ds (and the equivalent lenses) I would stick with the D1x because it did its job PHENOMENALLY, and still does. Anyone want some Nikon stuff?

3. Canon flashes are junk compared to Nikon. I haven't tested the E-TTL to see if it's better than Nikon's joke-DTTL, but WHO THE HELL MAKES A FLASH WITH NO PC SOCKET?

4. While there are many more Canon custom functions (many of which are quite useful) the menus and settings take wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too loooooooooooooong to adjust. Why do I need to go through a menu to set rear curtain sync? Their buttons and menus are not quite as intuitive.

5. The Canon body build is a solid step up in weatherproofing, however, the switches on nikon lenses are slightly less prone to accidental switching.

6. While the Canon software has some aspects that I like better, it is very badly designed, even in comparison to nikon's underdeveloped offerings.

7. You had better have a GOOD use for 11 MP files if you're going to bother with a 1Ds, or any camera greater than 6MP. They are huge to transfer, manipulate, store, and archive, and many aspects of photography don't demand this level of resolution (A 6MP raw option would have been a nice option for those few jobs where I know my clients won't need the higher res and resale is unlikely). It truely is medium format picture quality in a 35mm body.

for what it's worth...

-C

http://www.studio6x7.com

 

[Janice Legler]

Email me off the forum what you have to sell. I might be interested. My email is in my profile.

JW

Anyone want some Nikon stuff?

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Have camera, will travel
http://homepage.mac.com/janice_legler/

 

[HAE]

Silken .. good that you made a decision that made you happy. It is all that matters afterall. I respect that you did not make your decision running after the latest and greatest, like the childish attiturde we have been seeing aroung this forum lately, but to satify a real need. I would like to hear about how big a problem is the chromatic aberation issue with FF if you have the time to comment on that after you get used to your new gear.

Today I switched to Canon and here's what I learned (the only
important things are #1 and #2):

1. I absolutely made the right choice (for me). I will make money
with the 1Ds' advantages this summer (=waiting for a new nikon
isn't worthwhile when A. there won't be one now/when I need it, and
B. it will most likely not be what I'm looking for anyway-- I want
Full Frame)

2. If I didn't have large demand for the benefits of my 1Ds (and
the equivalent lenses) I would stick with the D1x because it did
its job PHENOMENALLY, and still does. Anyone want some Nikon stuff?

3. Canon flashes are junk compared to Nikon. I haven't tested the
E-TTL to see if it's better than Nikon's joke-DTTL, but WHO THE
HELL MAKES A FLASH WITH NO PC SOCKET?

4. While there are many more Canon custom functions (many of which
are quite useful) the menus and settings take wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
too loooooooooooooong to adjust. Why do I need to go through a
menu to set rear curtain sync? Their buttons and menus are not
quite as intuitive.

5. The Canon body build is a solid step up in weatherproofing,
however, the switches on nikon lenses are slightly less prone to
accidental switching.

6. While the Canon software has some aspects that I like better,
it is very badly designed, even in comparison to nikon's
underdeveloped offerings.

7. You had better have a GOOD use for 11 MP files if you're going
to bother with a 1Ds, or any camera greater than 6MP. They are
huge to transfer, manipulate, store, and archive, and many aspects
of photography don't demand this level of resolution (A 6MP raw
option would have been a nice option for those few jobs where I
know my clients won't need the higher res and resale is unlikely).
It truely is medium format picture quality in a 35mm body.

for what it's worth...

-C

http://www.studio6x7.com

 

[Ron Reznick]

[email protected]

Ron
--
Ron Reznick
http://digital-images.net
http://trapagon.com

 

[Novaid]

Pls email me about what you have for sale
thanks

Today I switched to Canon and here's what I learned (the only
important things are #1 and #2):

1. I absolutely made the right choice (for me). I will make money
with the 1Ds' advantages this summer (=waiting for a new nikon
isn't worthwhile when A. there won't be one now/when I need it, and
B. it will most likely not be what I'm looking for anyway-- I want
Full Frame)

2. If I didn't have large demand for the benefits of my 1Ds (and
the equivalent lenses) I would stick with the D1x because it did
its job PHENOMENALLY, and still does. Anyone want some Nikon stuff?

3. Canon flashes are junk compared to Nikon. I haven't tested the
E-TTL to see if it's better than Nikon's joke-DTTL, but WHO THE
HELL MAKES A FLASH WITH NO PC SOCKET?

4. While there are many more Canon custom functions (many of which
are quite useful) the menus and settings take wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
too loooooooooooooong to adjust. Why do I need to go through a
menu to set rear curtain sync? Their buttons and menus are not
quite as intuitive.

5. The Canon body build is a solid step up in weatherproofing,
however, the switches on nikon lenses are slightly less prone to
accidental switching.

6. While the Canon software has some aspects that I like better,
it is very badly designed, even in comparison to nikon's
underdeveloped offerings.

7. You had better have a GOOD use for 11 MP files if you're going
to bother with a 1Ds, or any camera greater than 6MP. They are
huge to transfer, manipulate, store, and archive, and many aspects
of photography don't demand this level of resolution (A 6MP raw
option would have been a nice option for those few jobs where I
know my clients won't need the higher res and resale is unlikely).
It truely is medium format picture quality in a 35mm body.

for what it's worth...

-C

http://www.studio6x7.com

--
Thanks

Novaid
Look at pink's E-10 pics: http://www.numb.com/pink

 

[Joe Hoddinott]

[email protected]

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Regards,
Joe H.

PPA
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(Sarcasm Included - some assembly required.)

 

[WFAdams]

Silken:

You seem to know what you want, and seem to be objective enough about the overall camera market to realize what you'll be missing in making a switch to Canon. How can anyone complain about your personal decision?

Of course, your D1x could serve as your 5-6MP option when you don't need 11MP files. Surely, not all of your images are destined to become 24x30 enlargements.

But, right now there is only one D-SLR camera on the market that can approach and/or exceed the imaging capability of at least the smaller medium format cameras, and that is the Canon 1Ds. We still don't know the complete resolution/noise picture with respect to the Kodak 14MP offering. If it flops, then Canon and Canon glass will be your only option. If it is a success, then you have to assess how much Nikon glass you have, versus replacing your stock with a boat load of Canon pro quality lenses.

Today I switched to Canon and here's what I learned (the only
important things are #1 and #2):

1. I absolutely made the right choice (for me). I will make money
with the 1Ds' advantages this summer (=waiting for a new nikon
isn't worthwhile when A. there won't be one now/when I need it, and
B. it will most likely not be what I'm looking for anyway-- I want
Full Frame)

2. If I didn't have large demand for the benefits of my 1Ds (and
the equivalent lenses) I would stick with the D1x because it did
its job PHENOMENALLY, and still does. Anyone want some Nikon stuff?

3. Canon flashes are junk compared to Nikon. I haven't tested the
E-TTL to see if it's better than Nikon's joke-DTTL, but WHO THE
HELL MAKES A FLASH WITH NO PC SOCKET?

4. While there are many more Canon custom functions (many of which
are quite useful) the menus and settings take wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
too loooooooooooooong to adjust. Why do I need to go through a
menu to set rear curtain sync? Their buttons and menus are not
quite as intuitive.

5. The Canon body build is a solid step up in weatherproofing,
however, the switches on nikon lenses are slightly less prone to
accidental switching.

6. While the Canon software has some aspects that I like better,
it is very badly designed, even in comparison to nikon's
underdeveloped offerings.

7. You had better have a GOOD use for 11 MP files if you're going
to bother with a 1Ds, or any camera greater than 6MP. They are
huge to transfer, manipulate, store, and archive, and many aspects
of photography don't demand this level of resolution (A 6MP raw
option would have been a nice option for those few jobs where I
know my clients won't need the higher res and resale is unlikely).
It truely is medium format picture quality in a 35mm body.

for what it's worth...

-C

http://www.studio6x7.com

--
Bill Adams
http://www.pbase.com/bill_adams

 

[Silken]

I will do that. I'm going to have some time to do personal shooting this weekend so I'll try to find some interesting wide angle shots. My guess is that it will be there, but won't be noticable enough to make the picture look bad or not sell, at any size...

-C

Today I switched to Canon and here's what I learned (the only
important things are #1 and #2):

1. I absolutely made the right choice (for me). I will make money
with the 1Ds' advantages this summer (=waiting for a new nikon
isn't worthwhile when A. there won't be one now/when I need it, and
B. it will most likely not be what I'm looking for anyway-- I want
Full Frame)

2. If I didn't have large demand for the benefits of my 1Ds (and
the equivalent lenses) I would stick with the D1x because it did
its job PHENOMENALLY, and still does. Anyone want some Nikon stuff?

3. Canon flashes are junk compared to Nikon. I haven't tested the
E-TTL to see if it's better than Nikon's joke-DTTL, but WHO THE
HELL MAKES A FLASH WITH NO PC SOCKET?

4. While there are many more Canon custom functions (many of which
are quite useful) the menus and settings take wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
too loooooooooooooong to adjust. Why do I need to go through a
menu to set rear curtain sync? Their buttons and menus are not
quite as intuitive.

5. The Canon body build is a solid step up in weatherproofing,
however, the switches on nikon lenses are slightly less prone to
accidental switching.

6. While the Canon software has some aspects that I like better,
it is very badly designed, even in comparison to nikon's
underdeveloped offerings.

7. You had better have a GOOD use for 11 MP files if you're going
to bother with a 1Ds, or any camera greater than 6MP. They are
huge to transfer, manipulate, store, and archive, and many aspects
of photography don't demand this level of resolution (A 6MP raw
option would have been a nice option for those few jobs where I
know my clients won't need the higher res and resale is unlikely).
It truely is medium format picture quality in a 35mm body.

for what it's worth...

-C

http://www.studio6x7.com

 

[Silken]

Oh, and thank you for your respect of my decision. I made this post to show that some of the recent rumors and talk about nikon not having new offerings is important to the biz workings of some.

-C

Today I switched to Canon and here's what I learned (the only
important things are #1 and #2):

1. I absolutely made the right choice (for me). I will make money
with the 1Ds' advantages this summer (=waiting for a new nikon
isn't worthwhile when A. there won't be one now/when I need it, and
B. it will most likely not be what I'm looking for anyway-- I want
Full Frame)

2. If I didn't have large demand for the benefits of my 1Ds (and
the equivalent lenses) I would stick with the D1x because it did
its job PHENOMENALLY, and still does. Anyone want some Nikon stuff?

3. Canon flashes are junk compared to Nikon. I haven't tested the
E-TTL to see if it's better than Nikon's joke-DTTL, but WHO THE
HELL MAKES A FLASH WITH NO PC SOCKET?

4. While there are many more Canon custom functions (many of which
are quite useful) the menus and settings take wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
too loooooooooooooong to adjust. Why do I need to go through a
menu to set rear curtain sync? Their buttons and menus are not
quite as intuitive.

5. The Canon body build is a solid step up in weatherproofing,
however, the switches on nikon lenses are slightly less prone to
accidental switching.

6. While the Canon software has some aspects that I like better,
it is very badly designed, even in comparison to nikon's
underdeveloped offerings.

7. You had better have a GOOD use for 11 MP files if you're going
to bother with a 1Ds, or any camera greater than 6MP. They are
huge to transfer, manipulate, store, and archive, and many aspects
of photography don't demand this level of resolution (A 6MP raw
option would have been a nice option for those few jobs where I
know my clients won't need the higher res and resale is unlikely).
It truely is medium format picture quality in a 35mm body.

for what it's worth...

-C

http://www.studio6x7.com

 

[Silken]

It would be nice if the D1x accepted Canon lenses with full functionality, or vice versa. Then I would also have backup w/o spending another $7000...

However, walking around with two systems won't work for me. For the subjects that I'm becoming known for, there will be the chance that every image could become either a big enlargement or need a tight crop out of it.

I thought long and hard about the 14n but I'm not confident that it will be out soon enough, it's not really a 760 replacement, and nikon finally has a 70-200 VR but 300mm 2.8 IS and 400 4.0 DO IS look appealing for my work.

-C

You seem to know what you want, and seem to be objective enough
about the overall camera market to realize what you'll be missing
in making a switch to Canon. How can anyone complain about your
personal decision?

Of course, your D1x could serve as your 5-6MP option when you don't
need 11MP files. Surely, not all of your images are destined to
become 24x30 enlargements.

But, right now there is only one D-SLR camera on the market that
can approach and/or exceed the imaging capability of at least the
smaller medium format cameras, and that is the Canon 1Ds. We still
don't know the complete resolution/noise picture with respect to
the Kodak 14MP offering. If it flops, then Canon and Canon glass
will be your only option. If it is a success, then you have to
assess how much Nikon glass you have, versus replacing your stock
with a boat load of Canon pro quality lenses.

Today I switched to Canon and here's what I learned (the only
important things are #1 and #2):

1. I absolutely made the right choice (for me). I will make money
with the 1Ds' advantages this summer (=waiting for a new nikon
isn't worthwhile when A. there won't be one now/when I need it, and
B. it will most likely not be what I'm looking for anyway-- I want
Full Frame)

2. If I didn't have large demand for the benefits of my 1Ds (and
the equivalent lenses) I would stick with the D1x because it did
its job PHENOMENALLY, and still does. Anyone want some Nikon stuff?

3. Canon flashes are junk compared to Nikon. I haven't tested the
E-TTL to see if it's better than Nikon's joke-DTTL, but WHO THE
HELL MAKES A FLASH WITH NO PC SOCKET?

4. While there are many more Canon custom functions (many of which
are quite useful) the menus and settings take wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
too loooooooooooooong to adjust. Why do I need to go through a
menu to set rear curtain sync? Their buttons and menus are not
quite as intuitive.

5. The Canon body build is a solid step up in weatherproofing,
however, the switches on nikon lenses are slightly less prone to
accidental switching.

6. While the Canon software has some aspects that I like better,
it is very badly designed, even in comparison to nikon's
underdeveloped offerings.

7. You had better have a GOOD use for 11 MP files if you're going
to bother with a 1Ds, or any camera greater than 6MP. They are
huge to transfer, manipulate, store, and archive, and many aspects
of photography don't demand this level of resolution (A 6MP raw
option would have been a nice option for those few jobs where I
know my clients won't need the higher res and resale is unlikely).
It truely is medium format picture quality in a 35mm body.

for what it's worth...

-C

http://www.studio6x7.com

--
Bill Adams
http://www.pbase.com/bill_adams

 

[Browning]

I've been seen this type of message from canon forum many time since canon introduced 1D.

 

[DavidP #28649]

Good idea about being able to choose a smaller RAW size. With Canon, you can't do that. You can, of course, get smaller JPG's (losing the many advantages of RAW).

Somebody (a Canon shooter) alluded to the fact that with a Nikon you could select a smaller RAW file size, in answer to my assertion that I didn't think it'd be possible to do something like that.

So, my question is, do Nikon digital SLR's have this ability?

7. You had better have a GOOD use for 11 MP files if you're going
to bother with a 1Ds, or any camera greater than 6MP. They are
huge to transfer, manipulate, store, and archive, and many aspects
of photography don't demand this level of resolution (A 6MP raw
option would have been a nice option for those few jobs where I
know my clients won't need the higher res and resale is unlikely).
It truely is medium format picture quality in a 35mm body.

--
The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise

 

[Keith Jewell]

3. Canon flashes are junk compared to Nikon. I haven't tested the
E-TTL to see if it's better than Nikon's joke-DTTL, but WHO THE
HELL MAKES A FLASH WITH NO PC SOCKET?

I'm trying to figure out why you'd need it. The flash won't do TTL without the full connections, so you need the Off-Camera Shoe Cord 2 to extend the flash, but that's not unlike the Nikon three-pin setup you need to get Nikon flashes off the camera. If you need it to trigger other flashes, well, there's one on the body.

4. While there are many more Canon custom functions (many of which
are quite useful) the menus and settings take wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
too loooooooooooooong to adjust. Why do I need to go through a
menu to set rear curtain sync? Their buttons and menus are not
quite as intuitive.

On the 550EX, you can set rear-curtain sync from the control panel on the flash. There's a two-button combo to do that, or High Speed sync.

5. The Canon body build is a solid step up in weatherproofing,
however, the switches on nikon lenses are slightly less prone to
accidental switching.

I'm not sure what problem you've had - at least on my Canon L lenses, there's never been a problem with accidentally switching the switches. They're actually fairly stiff by my standards, though I'm happy with that.

6. While the Canon software has some aspects that I like better,
it is very badly designed, even in comparison to nikon's
underdeveloped offerings.

I totally, totally agree there. The Canon raw software is really quite miserable.

7. You had better have a GOOD use for 11 MP files if you're going
to bother with a 1Ds, or any camera greater than 6MP. They are
huge to transfer, manipulate, store, and archive, and many aspects
of photography don't demand this level of resolution (A 6MP raw
option would have been a nice option for those few jobs where I
know my clients won't need the higher res and resale is unlikely).
It truely is medium format picture quality in a 35mm body.

I'm not sure that it would be possible to have a 6MP RAW file. I know that Kodak is doing it, but I can't believe they're just throwing out half the pixels, and the moment you've done resampling, it's not really a RAW file any more. We'll see what it looks like.

-Keith

 

[DavidP #28649]

I don't have any experience with Nikon lenses, so maybe I'd be messing them up, too.

I have accidentally turned off IS, and switched to MF, without realizing it. That is, until I start to take a picture.

Must be how I'm holding the lens.

I'm not sure what problem you've had - at least on my Canon L
lenses, there's never been a problem with accidentally switching
the switches. They're actually fairly stiff by my standards, though
I'm happy with that.

--
The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise

 

[Peter Phan]

3. Canon flashes are junk compared to Nikon. I haven't tested the
E-TTL to see if it's better than Nikon's joke-DTTL, but WHO THE
HELL MAKES A FLASH WITH NO PC SOCKET?

Junk because the flash has no PC socket? Why don't you just use the PC socket on the camera body? 10D has one.

 

[Luis E Limon]

Ok some people are jumping ships but I don't realy think real nikonians are jumping boat.

Most realy nikonians love they glass and won't just jump becase a new camera is released.

I admit I'm not a real nikonian y just gent the Nikon way because I love to have choices. With canon you can only buy canon.

I like the lens. I think my 15-30 Sigma is wide enouch. and The only thing that I could be missing is the IS lenses. But nikon is releasing VR lenses to fill the gap.

Personaly I don't to to much super telephoto. and for low light I have my 50/f1.4 VR is welcome but I can live with out it. Until a VR that I like is released.

I've been seen this type of message from canon forum many time
since canon introduced 1D.

--

S2 Pro; Sigma 28-70/2.8; Sigma 15-30; Tamron SP 90/2.8; Nikon 50/1.4; Nikon 70-300ED and SB-28 Flash

 

[Luis E Limon]

With the fujis you get a RAW the size of a 6mp that at extraction time can become a 12mp jpg.

Somebody (a Canon shooter) alluded to the fact that with a Nikon
you could select a smaller RAW file size, in answer to my
assertion that I didn't think it'd be possible to do something like
that.

So, my question is, do Nikon digital SLR's have this ability?

7. You had better have a GOOD use for 11 MP files if you're going
to bother with a 1Ds, or any camera greater than 6MP. They are
huge to transfer, manipulate, store, and archive, and many aspects
of photography don't demand this level of resolution (A 6MP raw
option would have been a nice option for those few jobs where I
know my clients won't need the higher res and resale is unlikely).
It truely is medium format picture quality in a 35mm body.

--
The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise

--

S2 Pro; Sigma 28-70/2.8; Sigma 15-30; Tamron SP 90/2.8; Nikon 50/1.4; Nikon 70-300ED and SB-28 Flash

 

[Neil van Niekerk]

3. Canon flashes are junk compared to Nikon. I haven't tested the
E-TTL to see if it's better than Nikon's joke-DTTL, but WHO THE
HELL MAKES A FLASH WITH NO PC SOCKET?

I'm trying to figure out why you'd need it.

I often use my SB80-DX with a SC-17 cable on a rotating camera bracket .. and then I still want to trigger otehr studio slaves to light up a room at a wedding. In order for the radio slave to be triggered, I need a PC socket .. and since my D100 doesn't have a frikkin PC socket (aaaaargh!), I have to use the PC socket on the flashgun.

So it definitely does have its advantages.

 

[Neil van Niekerk]

I've been seen this type of message from canon forum many time
since canon introduced 1D.

Why would anyone want to jump to Canon for the 1D alone ??

 

[Peter Phan]

I've been seen this type of message from canon forum many time
since canon introduced 1D.

Why would anyone want to jump to Canon for the 1D alone ??

Overall lens selection, too, maybe.