Some thoughts ...

[RStyga]

of me to two different topics:

Phones vs. Cameras

Because the use of (smart)phones to take images is in most cases different to the use of (real) cameras we should/could call such type of image taking 'phonography' in contrast to the more classical image taking with cameras that we call 'photography'.

Remark: This not meant offensive. I think we could call different things with different names.

(Youtube) videos

• A video recorded with a very short focal length looks like someone is talking to you with <30 cm distance. In real life, most people would not be comfortable if someone talks to one so near.
• Many videos are recorded with a 'sensational style' while talking about non sensational topics. Is this really necessary to et the attention of the viewer?

For both topics i am interested in the view of others, please write a comment.

Your suggestion shows lack of understanding of these two words. They both come from Greek: photo-graphy (φωτο-γραφία, light-inscription), phono-graph (φωνο-γράφος, voice-inscription). You cannot call photography using a mobile phone, phonography, it's completely misleading and linguistically invalid. The term photography does not relate to the type of medium used; hence SLR photography, film photography, mobile phone photography. Regards,

 

[jiberlin]

Thank you all for sharing your thoughts about my topics.

My thoughts/answers to all the posts:

Specific photo styles

Some people use a (smart)phone like a normal dedicated camera, but others use it in a way that is, in my view, very specific to (smart)phones:

• Taking photos from every meal they get in a restaurant or every cocktail they get in a bar (Foodp***)
• Taking photos of them self in every situation (me in the bus, me in the local train, me in the tram, me in car, me...)
• Taking photos of friends in bizarr poses
• Visiting special locations only to take photos for the social media without real interest on the place they visit

Sometime such photos are also taken with dedicated cameras, but in my view, these type of photos are specific to a (smart)phone or (smart)phone like use of a dedicated camera.

That these kind of pictures are taken with a phone camera is all about availability, convenience and connectivity. ...

I hope I've clarified what I meant. It's not about what a recording was made with, but rather the style that has evolved with the new equipment.

Both are cameras. There is no real difference in style. It is the small size, availability and connectivity with the internet that make people use the phone camera more often in different situations. In the end, regular cameras and phone cameras are exactly the same. They are devices to capture an image. Nothing more and nothing less.

You contradict yourself. The convenience, availability and to be connected differentiate a (smart)phone from a dedicated camera, and this results in a very different usage.

Different tools are used for different things. The styles i mentioned have evolved from the (exzessive ) use of (smart)phones, even if some use dedicated cameras for this style of images. And some use (smart)phones for the more classic style of images.

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Sensational video style

Perhaps this is a cultural thing. I am German and films produced in Germany are normally in a more neutral/factual/objectively style. I we have films in public TV that originated from US, they are much more in the sensational/excited style. For me, it is strange to be such excited about a new lens/camera/...

Germany is well known for its solid quality products. People are more modest. The videos you are probably watching often have a commercial purpose of selling a product. ...

As i have written, it is about films in public TV, mostly documentations. Synchronized imports from US are very different to productions from Germany

 

[gianstam]

Thomas Edison invented the Phonograph in c 1899 so, sorry but you can't have that one.

The device we call a "phone", (more correctly a 'phone when I was at school) is actually a telephone.

Photo = light

Graph = Drawing

Thus photograph = drawing with light. It follows that phonography would be drawing, or writing, with sound, today we call it recording.

Nice try though.

I can confirm your words (Just because of my knowledge of Greek language)
BTW the "prefix" tele means from far away. So, all the words that include it have the corresponding meaning. Telephone is the device which sends or receives voice (phone-φωνή) to/from far away.
Second part of many of these words is a Greek word too (ancient or modern) .
Telephoto, Telemetry, Telepathy, Telescope, etc

 

[Ozzie SD]

Thank you all for sharing your thoughts about my topics.

My thoughts/answers to all the posts:

Specific photo styles

Some people use a (smart)phone like a normal dedicated camera, but others use it in a way that is, in my view, very specific to (smart)phones:

• Taking photos from every meal they get in a restaurant or every cocktail they get in a bar (Foodp***)
• Taking photos of them self in every situation (me in the bus, me in the local train, me in the tram, me in car, me...)
• Taking photos of friends in bizarr poses
• Visiting special locations only to take photos for the social media without real interest on the place they visit

Sometime such photos are also taken with dedicated cameras, but in my view, these type of photos are specific to a (smart)phone or (smart)phone like use of a dedicated camera.

That these kind of pictures are taken with a phone camera is all about availability, convenience and connectivity. ...

I hope I've clarified what I meant. It's not about what a recording was made with, but rather the style that has evolved with the new equipment.

Both are cameras. There is no real difference in style. It is the small size, availability and connectivity with the internet that make people use the phone camera more often in different situations. In the end, regular cameras and phone cameras are exactly the same. They are devices to capture an image. Nothing more and nothing less.

You contradict yourself. The convenience, availability and to be connected differentiate a (smart)phone from a dedicated camera, and this results in a very different usage.

That is not contradicting at all. I clearly explained why more and other photos might be taken with a phone. I explained about size, availability and connectivity. But in the end they are both cameras, devices to capture an image. Both devices can be used to take the same images. You have small hammers and you have very big hammers. Both are more convenient in certain situations. But in the end they are what they are, a hammer.

Different tools are used for different things. The styles i mentioned have evolved from the (exzessive ) use of (smart)phones, even if some use dedicated cameras for this style of images. And some use (smart)phones for the more classic style of images.

...

Sensational video style

Perhaps this is a cultural thing. I am German and films produced in Germany are normally in a more neutral/factual/objectively style. I we have films in public TV that originated from US, they are much more in the sensational/excited style. For me, it is strange to be such excited about a new lens/camera/...

Germany is well known for its solid quality products. People are more modest. The videos you are probably watching often have a commercial purpose of selling a product. ...

As i have written, it is about films in public TV, mostly documentations. Synchronized imports from US are very different to productions from Germany