So how fast is your system?

[Ger Bee]

----------- have my 2GHz P4 and 1GB DDR ram so it a wee bit faster than it was before to be sure.

Can't get my AGP vard working though -- ;(

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[Dave Brennan103047]

Not to drift too much, but what is the deal with XP licensing? I've been hearing people ***** about it, but don't know about what, exactly. I was thinking about upgrading to it from 98SE.

Dave

 

[Johnny Apertureseed]

FWIW, I have two Macs, one for home, dual monitor G4, first-round 733 mhz sp, superdrive, 1 GB RAM and 200 GB storage. Running OS 10.2. I edit/process most of my images and upload them to my agency's server and to individual clients via a cable modem that connects anywhere from 2200 to 3200 kbps, so I can move a lot of images. I've even edited a few videos on this system (Final Cut Pro).

For the road, I have a G3 "Pismo" Powerbook, connects at locations T1 lines or can do crappy dialup, 750-ish megs of RAM and a 48 GB travlestar drive, two smaller firewire drives for backup/extra and a firewire CD-R to burn client copies when needed. I run OS 10.1.5 on this one, since Nikon drags their feet on scanner software and I still scan and archive my slides on an LS-4000. When I'm home, that's what the Powerbook usually does.

 

[Dave Harpe]

The big change is that registration is mandantory. When you register your system, it "fingerprints" it...basically cataloging what your system "looks" like...how much memory you have, number of CPUs, hard drives, etc. It then locks your registration to that system.

If you change your system substantially (i.e. add another hard disk, add memory) your system fingerprint changes. This causes your operating system registration to become invalid. To reactivate it, you have to CALL Microsoft, explain the changes, then get a new authorization code. Each time you change your system, you have to get a new code.

For users who set up a system and only change things maybe once a year, it's probably not a problem. I'm always adding/removing/changing things on my systems, which makes the licensing a real pain in the rear.

Windows 2000 Pro is extremely stable for me. I'm staying with it until I move to an Apple.

Dave

Not to drift too much, but what is the deal with XP licensing? I've
been hearing people ***** about it, but don't know about what,
exactly. I was thinking about upgrading to it from 98SE.

Dave

 

[Ron Hildebrand]

Dave--

Did you get to read my post just above? In that post, I mentioned that according to the builder of my RAID system, who REALLY wanted me to go with XP instead of Win2K, the registration in XP Pro has been disabled due to numerous complaints from large corporate clients who found it annoying and costly time-wise, so forced registration should no longer be an issue. MS doesn't advertise this fact, and it is my understanding that it still appears toat registration is necessary, but you can move right past that screen without registering. I can't verify this--maybe someone who has XP Pro can--but I have no reason to doubt this shop owner.

I remained with Win2K because of the driver situation, and the sometimes lag-behind of smaller software vendors to catch up to newer systems, and so figured a conservative decision on the OS was the wise decision.

Like you, I find Win2K to be just fine. Unfortunately, I will assume that ATA support will stop where it is now at ATA100 in Win2K (upgraded in SP2 from ATA66, but not upgraded to 133 in SP3 from what I can see), so I will probably consider moving to XP in the next year or so.

I understand that progress is slowly taking place in the Linux world in making needed software usable on a Linux box. However, full color management with ICC profiles has not yet been achieved. (If there was a real push toward Linux, and it was indeed ICC compatible, I'm sure Adobe would author a Linux version of PS.) It would be truly a red letter day when we could at least move our image processing onto Linux and away from Microsoft.

Ron

If you change your system substantially (i.e. add another hard
disk, add memory) your system fingerprint changes. This causes
your operating system registration to become invalid. To
reactivate it, you have to CALL Microsoft, explain the changes,
then get a new authorization code. Each time you change your
system, you have to get a new code.

For users who set up a system and only change things maybe once a
year, it's probably not a problem. I'm always
adding/removing/changing things on my systems, which makes the
licensing a real pain in the rear.

Windows 2000 Pro is extremely stable for me. I'm staying with it
until I move to an Apple.

Dave

Not to drift too much, but what is the deal with XP licensing? I've
been hearing people ***** about it, but don't know about what,
exactly. I was thinking about upgrading to it from 98SE.

Dave

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Ron

 

[Cribbage]

You can accomplish a great deal with The Gimp. If you write your own scripts, you can batch process very complex procedures with speed and efficiency.

Did you get to read my post just above? In that post, I mentioned
that according to the builder of my RAID system, who REALLY wanted
me to go with XP instead of Win2K, the registration in XP Pro has
been disabled due to numerous complaints from large corporate
clients who found it annoying and costly time-wise, so forced
registration should no longer be an issue. MS doesn't advertise
this fact, and it is my understanding that it still appears toat
registration is necessary, but you can move right past that screen
without registering. I can't verify this--maybe someone who has XP
Pro can--but I have no reason to doubt this shop owner.

I remained with Win2K because of the driver situation, and the
sometimes lag-behind of smaller software vendors to catch up to
newer systems, and so figured a conservative decision on the OS was
the wise decision.

Like you, I find Win2K to be just fine. Unfortunately, I will
assume that ATA support will stop where it is now at ATA100 in
Win2K (upgraded in SP2 from ATA66, but not upgraded to 133 in SP3
from what I can see), so I will probably consider moving to XP in
the next year or so.

I understand that progress is slowly taking place in the Linux
world in making needed software usable on a Linux box. However,
full color management with ICC profiles has not yet been achieved.
(If there was a real push toward Linux, and it was indeed ICC
compatible, I'm sure Adobe would author a Linux version of PS.) It
would be truly a red letter day when we could at least move our
image processing onto Linux and away from Microsoft.

Ron

If you change your system substantially (i.e. add another hard
disk, add memory) your system fingerprint changes. This causes
your operating system registration to become invalid. To
reactivate it, you have to CALL Microsoft, explain the changes,
then get a new authorization code. Each time you change your
system, you have to get a new code.

For users who set up a system and only change things maybe once a
year, it's probably not a problem. I'm always
adding/removing/changing things on my systems, which makes the
licensing a real pain in the rear.

Windows 2000 Pro is extremely stable for me. I'm staying with it
until I move to an Apple.

Dave

Not to drift too much, but what is the deal with XP licensing? I've
been hearing people ***** about it, but don't know about what,
exactly. I was thinking about upgrading to it from 98SE.

Dave

--
Ron

 

[Ron Hildebrand]

You can accomplish a great deal with The Gimp. If you write your
own scripts, you can batch process very complex procedures with
speed and efficiency.

That's what I understand, Cribbage, but without precise, full color management, it would not be a workable solution for many of us, especially for those of us who do not have a "closed loop" system on premises. And as for me, I'm still willing to stick with something like Win2K for now if it would mean even more work to move to Linux!

Ron

 

[paulfrye]

Hi Erika,

I've got a new G4 DP1.25 GHz with about 2 gigs of 333 DDR.

My results are similar to Dave's above, but opening is quite faster. I tried it in both OSX and OS9 and got the following:

View a NEF in PS7 with Plugin -- 2 sec.
Open a NEF in PS7 with Plugin -- 9 sec.
Rotate 16 bit file 17.3 CCW -- 2 secs.
Changing fm 16 to 8 bit file was instant.

I also run Nikon Capture in OS9 sometimes. It does very well, with batch processing taking about 30 seconds or so per file. I'm looking forward to the Capture 3.5 upgrade which will provide the compatibility for OSX 10.2

Regards,

Paul

It's real easy Dave. Just walk on down to your local Apple store
and take your pick! The new iMac with the 17" screen and DVD burner
looks and performs beautifully. Don't be put off be "clock speed"
alone, it also depends on how all that info is travelling around
the rest of the computer. If numbers mean a lot to you check out
the new G4 dual processor units – they're awesome.

The main advantage of using a Mac of course is not having to use
Windows and don't listen to the doomsayers telling you there's no
good software for the Mac – that's "el torro poopoo".
You must have heard the old saying, "Windows 2000, or as it used to
be known, Mac 1989"

Over to you guys!
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[Gabriele Sartori]

I am assuming that Ron is using one of the Tyans for AMD SMP.

I agree on the rest but make sure are MP or they don't work. They are the same CPU but SMP is disabled on the XP. I've a dual Athlon, it kick the $hit out of everything else.

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Gabriele Sartori

 

[TonyK_in_Texas]

Don't be fooled. Having 512MB of memory and a 866 Mhz process will help.

Also getting the faster drive and making it your data/photo drive is a great suggestion.

If you want a FAST system, consider getting a dual processor system and Windows 2K Pro (it can go dual), Linux (almost any flavor) or who know what else. PhotoShop can use the dual processors and with 512MB memory per processor will provide power for now and some room to grow later.

Good luck in your search for speed.

Ok, ok. So I have a clunky system. The problem is that my current
MB can only go to a max of 866 mhz and 512 meg RAM. Instead, I
think I'm leaning toward a new system after hearing dannv's times
with his machine. And Group Idiot's battlewagon sounds like a
downright fire hazard.

I'm still curious to hear others' times for some of these
operations I described.

Thanks!

Dave

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TonyK

 

[Group Idiot]

I am assuming that Ron is using one of the Tyans for AMD SMP.

I agree on the rest but make sure are MP or they don't work. They
are the same CPU but SMP is disabled on the XP. I've a dual Athlon,
it kick the $hit out of everything else.

I am running dual XP 2000+ on one of our Tyan S2460 "Tiger MP" mobos. SMP is not disabled, just not "certified."

Brendan
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