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Scan one and find out. If backwards .. flip it and scan that way..

The time it takes to get replies here to find out you could have scanned a dozen rolls. Besides, scanning software and your image editing software have means to flip the image.
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I use the Epson Perfection 1660 and the directions say to put the emulsion (flat) side up. I scan 4 at a time. Bill
 
Okay, I get three replies. The first says emulsion down. The third says emulsion up. The second is a flip answer in which the flip reply is that it doesn't matter as you can flip it if it is backwards, so says the flippant poster. The flippant poster also says I could have scanned in many of them while waiting for a reply. The flippant poster assumes, wrongly, that I wanted to scan them in immediately and wasn't worried about patiently waiting for a reply.

Now, I assume it does matter which side is down, and it is not entirely dependant upon correct orientation. I believe the quality of the light may be different when it is coming from one side as oppossed to another, or else manufacturers would simply tell us to just throw it on the scanner and flip it over if you don't like it.

So, I am tempted to go with the emulsion up as the poster states he has an Epson and that is the directions they give. I'm curiously awaiting any other thoughts on this, flippant or otherwise.
 
It depends on the scanner and what you are looking for. For instance my flatbed seems to work better emulsion side towards the lens. I have a drum scanner also and generally the manuf recommends just the opposite, due to the fact that it softens the grain a bit. That is a wet scan though and wrapped around a drum with a piece of acetate over it, but generally that technique does help with the grain, (emul side opposite from the lens), I would guess due to having the lens focus through the film base.

All that said that particular scanner has a focusing lens and I have found that it focuses more accurately with the emulsion side towards the lens. If you have a non focusing scanner like the 4990 it would not affect the focus since there is none, but scanning the emulsion side should resolve the grain a little better.

After a lot of experiments, I now scan only the emulsion side for either scanner. Its a bit sharper. Also a wet scan helps reduce the grain, dust and scratches quite a bit.

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Skipper494 said:
GovtLawyer said:
When scanning slides, is the emulsion side up or down?
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Put it the way the manual says to do, or is that a ridiculous
suggestion?
Skipper494.
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Well, the way you put it, you obnoxious, flippant, know-it-all pompous A* , yes, it does sound ridiculous. You see, you dimwit, pathetic, sarcastic loser, the manual doesn't say anything about the emulsion side. It talks about the BASE side, which it describes as the side with printing on the negative. It mentions nothing about emuslion sides of slides. It mentions nothing about slides in cardboard holders without printing.

Now, perhaps if you, you peabrained fool, were faced with the same problem of having read a manual and not been given the answer, and you turned to a group of people with know-how, like this board, you might actual get a worthwhile answer, instead of the holier-than-thou insignificant, immature and worthless drivel that mental midgits like you toss around.

Thanks for your help.
 
Emulsion side down / facing the lens / towards scanner glass (if flatbed)

or you could scan one to see if you have it the right way, but don't flip it with software as it won't be scanned at it's sharpest point.
hope this helps.
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You have the manual but don't understand the words it contains.

I suggest you actually learn something about photography, like a few terms which relate to darkroom terminology.
 
And why not? The person before didn't provide me with any help, merely a snotty remark. Perhaps you didn't read it.
 
Arend_T said:
You have the manual but don't understand the words it contains.
I suggest you actually learn something about photography, like a
few terms which relate to darkroom terminology.
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I understand fully. Perhaps you'd like me to send you the pertinent part, and you can figure it out.

BTW, I just got an email from Epson in response to a question I left with the technical department. They merely repeated all of the directions, except for which side is down. So, some of the people on this board are in good company. They are like Epson, either not helpful at all, or quoting the wrong thing. One of the two previous posters did give the right answer.
 
You're delusional! Check the list of posted messages. The first message you posted was to never give me help again. Pretty weird, isn't it, as you didn't provide any.
 
It doesn't matter on a Nikon LS2000. When Nikon first introduced the scanner they had some ground rules regarding your question (I don't recall the initial ground rule). Later, in Nikon's forums, the Nikon technical support person(s) commented MANY times that it does not matter what side is up. I don't know for sure what the official position is today but I would bet big money that it doesn't matter for the latest crop of Nikon scanners.

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In the hope that things have cooled off now, may I add my understanding of the issue here?

As far as I'm aware - after working for several years with a movie newsreel library - what's missing is that the two faces of a slide or negative are sometimes referred to as the (film) base and the emulsion side.

Which makes about as much sense as calling the two sides of a coin the obverse and the reverse (when everyone knows that the Queen is shown on the "head" and her wxyz on the "tail") - but, once you know, you know.
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I just received the following reply from Epson, the second one, as the first did not address the issue.

"Thank you for contacting the Epson Connection.

THink of the glass of the scanner as being like an eye looking up through
to the film; therefore the base (shiny side) goes face down
on the glass."

OK, Emulsion side is UP! At least on the Epson Perfection 2400.
 
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