S602 - new firmware?

[PrzemKo]

Hi! I'm quite new here, but I've seen something interesting and want to ask. On this page ( http://www.impuls.neostrada.pl/fuji602/602fujisoft.htm ) someone's put supposedly a new firmware for S602 along with a brief instruction. He's got it by e-mail from one of tech support people. I might be version from 602 Pro with fixed battery status display and faster (movie?) writing to CF. The only problem is... no one has tried it yet. It seems to be a 'legit' update, but it is somewhat unresting to have a prospect of dealing with the service with badly reflashed camera. So - is someone brave enough (or with easy access to Fuji's service) to check this file and give a report?

 

[mb34928]

The file date is 25 Jun 02, is this the original firmware??? Do you know if the manufacture date is stamped on the camera?? Can't check mine till tonight.

Shawn
http://www.pbase.com/mb34928
FAQ
http://www.marius.org/fuji602faq.php

Hi! I'm quite new here, but I've seen something interesting and
want to ask. On this page
( http://www.impuls.neostrada.pl/fuji602/602fujisoft.htm ) someone's
put supposedly a new firmware for S602 along with a brief
instruction. He's got it by e-mail from one of tech support people.
I might be version from 602 Pro with fixed battery status display
and faster (movie?) writing to CF. The only problem is... no one
has tried it yet. It seems to be a 'legit' update, but it is
somewhat unresting to have a prospect of dealing with the service
with badly reflashed camera. So - is someone brave enough (or with
easy access to Fuji's service) to check this file and give a report?

 

[jkirk@oz]

Gidday,

for someone that is "new" here you have found the holy grail. You won't beleive how many ppl have searched for this. Ok so far, I've converted the S3 format to bin and reverse-disassembled the bin file. Unfortunately it doesn't look good from there on - it is Fuji S602 Ver1.00, USB Ver1.00, and Flash(??) Ver Y-131 (beats me). BEFORE anyone will load this in, we need to find out how to backup the original code (I did found references to that). Then I need to verify that it isn't the S602SE, UNLIKELY. Anyway its a heck of a lot of work from here on. I'll start working on it during my spare time.

Well it PROVES that Fuji IS capable of doing user-updates !!! MANY THANKS, you're a hero
JKirk

PrzemKo wrote:
Hi! I'm quite new here, but I've seen something interesting and
want to ask. On this page
( http://www.impuls.neostrada.pl/fuji602/602fujisoft.htm ) someone's
put supposedly a new firmware for S602 along with a brief
instruction. He's got it by e-mail from one of tech support people.
I might be version from 602 Pro with fixed battery status display
and faster (movie?) writing to CF. The only problem is... no one
has tried it yet. It seems to be a 'legit' update, but it is
somewhat unresting to have a prospect of dealing with the service
with badly reflashed camera. So - is someone brave enough (or with
easy access to Fuji's service) to check this file and give a report?

 

[PrzemKo]

Well - I can't decypher camera markings into a date, but I've bought mine S602 aronud july 2002, and it was on the market since couple of months then. Directory name suggests it's 1.01 firmware for something (hopefully S602), and in EXIF header from jpegs I can read "1.00". From what I heard, included PDF isn't quite accurate and you need to format SmartMedia card via the PC (not the camera) and then copy unzipped directory onto "clean" media. Other bit of info is about the unzipped file - someone's decoded those hexdata into ASCII and found camera name (S602) in it...

The file date is 25 Jun 02, is this the original firmware??? Do
you know if the manufacture date is stamped on the camera?? Can't
check mine till tonight.

Shawn
http://www.pbase.com/mb34928
FAQ
http://www.marius.org/fuji602faq.php

 

[PrzemKo]

Not really the hero - friend of mine has the same camera, and told me what he found when he was tracking polish digital photography newsgroup. I've scanned this with the google and found the URL. Real hero was that guy who was persistent enough to "wear-off" one of tech support people and make him send the binaries. Many thanks for work on the file - perhaps we'll be able to remove those little but sometimes annoying bugs...

Gidday,
for someone that is "new" here you have found the holy grail. You
won't beleive how many ppl have searched for this. Ok so far, I've
converted the S3 format to bin and reverse-disassembled the bin
file. Unfortunately it doesn't look good from there on - it is Fuji
S602 Ver1.00, USB Ver1.00, and Flash(??) Ver Y-131 (beats me).
BEFORE anyone will load this in, we need to find out how to backup
the original code (I did found references to that). Then I need to
verify that it isn't the S602SE, UNLIKELY. Anyway its a heck of a
lot of work from here on. I'll start working on it during my spare
time.
Well it PROVES that Fuji IS capable of doing user-updates !!! MANY
THANKS, you're a hero
JKirk

 

[jkirk@oz]

Bad news: It's Ver1.00

Good news: It uses a common "off-the-shelf" operating system, I've used it long ago. Hopefully I can source it again. So far -

I can customise menu items, Folder and file-names.Yeah I know big-deal you say Well, we can add a CUSTOM ID# !!
It plays MP3 Files!!

I've found ONE reference to a File-counter and killed the CLEAR command (NOP's), this maybe that DAMN ReSET function that NOBODY wanted. Unfortunately, until I work out the Flash backup, I'm not game to upload this stuff.
Anyone have the pSOS development system?

NOTE: Fooling with the firmware WILL void the warranty, this is purely for interest.

Some Info from the Firmware-

FinePix S602 ZOOMY-364 0001010FJX0000000000 R98FinePix S602 ZOOM DIGCAM FUJIFILM_FUJIDSCF

pSOS+ M32R v2.3.0-32COPYRIGHT 1998, INTEGRATED SYSTEMS, INC.
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED

System Initialization Failed: insufficient memory available!
JKirk

PrzemKo wrote:
Not really the hero - friend of mine has the same camera, and told
me what he found when he was tracking polish digital photography
newsgroup. I've scanned this with the google and found the URL.
Real hero was that guy who was persistent enough to "wear-off" one
of tech support people and make him send the binaries. Many thanks
for work on the file - perhaps we'll be able to remove those little
but sometimes annoying bugs...

 

[tailwind]

It could also be a firmware for different market (ex. different language, TV out as either PAL/NTSC)

Hi! I'm quite new here, but I've seen something interesting and
want to ask. On this page
( http://www.impuls.neostrada.pl/fuji602/602fujisoft.htm ) someone's
put supposedly a new firmware for S602 along with a brief
instruction. He's got it by e-mail from one of tech support people.
I might be version from 602 Pro with fixed battery status display
and faster (movie?) writing to CF. The only problem is... no one
has tried it yet. It seems to be a 'legit' update, but it is
somewhat unresting to have a prospect of dealing with the service
with badly reflashed camera. So - is someone brave enough (or with
easy access to Fuji's service) to check this file and give a report?

--
tailwind - S602Z + HOYA HMC UV Filter
http://www.pbase.com/tailwind

 

[jkirk@oz]

Has 4 languages built-in, PAL/NTSC is a Hardware change, thats why its NOT menu-selectable. It IS definitely the original V1.00 release, dunno why they wanted it, but at least this gives us a breakthrough.
JKirk

tailwind wrote:
It could also be a firmware for different market (ex. different
language, TV out as either PAL/NTSC)

 

[DINH Viet Huy]

I wanted to know what is the 602 onboard cpu ?

and how can people an easily disassemble the coded file ( ok it's merely hexadecimal) but maybe it's only a (big) patch for an testing release of the 602.

However I agree with JKirk it's a grail , coz I don't understand a word of polish, it might be more interesting to discuss of this matter here( or in a more specialized hardware oriented forum ) to make community made firmware (we can always dream of it ).

 

[Unnamed33]

Jkirk,

Would it be possible for you to post the dissasembled file somewhere ? Or maybe you could let us now what you are using to look at the contents as I would love a peek. I only have a little assembler (6502/8088/68000/8058&pic) experience.

Thanks
mips

tailwind wrote:
It could also be a firmware for different market (ex. different
language, TV out as either PAL/NTSC)

 

[jkirk@oz]

Certainly,
When you unzip 602fujisoft.zip, you'll Find an S3 Data File -
Get the Motorola S3 Format to BIN File converter here -
http://www.keil.com/download/docs/mot2bin.zip.asp
I use HexEdit2 to view the RAW code, get that from
ZDNET DOWNLOADS @
http://downloads-zdnet.com.com/3120-20-0.html?qt=hexedit&tg=dl-2001
Search backwards from the END, as is usual for Moto.
After that I use expensive emulator / disassembler systems BUT -
you "should" find shareware / free disassemblers / simulators easy enough
I'd be interested to see how other get on with this task
JKirk

mips wrote:
Would it be possible for you to post the dissasembled file
somewhere ? Or maybe you could let us now what you are using to
look at the contents as I would love a peek. I only have a little
assembler (6502/8088/68000/8058&pic) experience.
Thanks
mips

 

[Unnamed33]

Thanks !

I'll have a look at it.

Cheers
mips

mips wrote:
Would it be possible for you to post the dissasembled file
somewhere ? Or maybe you could let us now what you are using to
look at the contents as I would love a peek. I only have a little
assembler (6502/8088/68000/8058&pic) experience.
Thanks
mips

 

[Unnamed33]

Not that much to see with a HEX editor. Need to dissasemble the binary to assembly of some sort. (An then I'll need some form of reference guide as it will probably greek for someone with my limited experience.)

The directories as specified in the .pdf looks correct as the same directories also appear in the bin file pointing to the .s3 file.

I found some text references to "Invalid IP address (null)" in the code ???

I'll have a look at it.

Cheers
mips

mips wrote:
Would it be possible for you to post the dissasembled file
somewhere ? Or maybe you could let us now what you are using to
look at the contents as I would love a peek. I only have a little
assembler (6502/8088/68000/8058&pic) experience.
Thanks
mips

 

[Unnamed33]

I either need to type slower or spell/syntax check my text before posting... ;-)

The directories as specified in the .pdf looks correct as the same
directories also appear in the bin file pointing to the .s3 file.

I found some text references to "Invalid IP address (null)" in the
code ???

I'll have a look at it.

Cheers
mips

mips wrote:
Would it be possible for you to post the dissasembled file
somewhere ? Or maybe you could let us now what you are using to
look at the contents as I would love a peek. I only have a little
assembler (6502/8088/68000/8058&pic) experience.
Thanks
mips

 

[Benoit Racicot]

There is a lot of stuff in there. Lots to see, even in ASCII only.

I don't have a disassembler either.

What worries me though, is that even if this firmware version has new stuff like continuous numbering, etc. There is a chance that the image quality could be lower than what we all currently have, if they've been experimenting with algorithms...

If there was a way to test it safely!
--
Benoit
http://www.pbase.com/glutier

 

[Unnamed33]

"If there was a way to test it safely!"

It would help if we knew how to recover from a corrupt upgrade & how to backup the current firmware.

Anybody have any friends working at a Fuji service centre ? ;-)

Cheers
mips

There is a lot of stuff in there. Lots to see, even in ASCII only.

I don't have a disassembler either.

What worries me though, is that even if this firmware version has
new stuff like continuous numbering, etc. There is a chance that
the image quality could be lower than what we all currently have,
if they've been experimenting with algorithms...

If there was a way to test it safely!
--
Benoit
http://www.pbase.com/glutier

 

[marius100281]

There's a few things we should probably see if we can get:

• a 6900 code, since that has the stuff like continuous numbering
• a way to pull the existing image off our cameras.. does anyone see anything in the decoded file referencing the "magic directory name" that it will pull updates out of? Maybe there's something around there about dumping flash to disk as well..
• If all this works out, I'd say we need a wishlist but I think we already have a really long wishlist

There is a lot of stuff in there. Lots to see, even in ASCII only.

I don't have a disassembler either.

What worries me though, is that even if this firmware version has
new stuff like continuous numbering, etc. There is a chance that
the image quality could be lower than what we all currently have,
if they've been experimenting with algorithms...

If there was a way to test it safely!
--
Benoit
http://www.pbase.com/glutier

--
-marius
Visit the S602Z FAQ: http://www.marius.org/fuji602faq.php
Fuji Forum Mugshot at http://www.fujimugs.com/

 

[marius100281]

Anyone have an out of warranty 602 that has something broke on it that makes it non-usable? We could load the test code on a broken camera, and see if certain things still work.

It would help if we knew how to recover from a corrupt upgrade &
how to backup the current firmware.

Anybody have any friends working at a Fuji service centre ? ;-)

Cheers
mips

There is a lot of stuff in there. Lots to see, even in ASCII only.

I don't have a disassembler either.

What worries me though, is that even if this firmware version has
new stuff like continuous numbering, etc. There is a chance that
the image quality could be lower than what we all currently have,
if they've been experimenting with algorithms...

If there was a way to test it safely!
--
Benoit
http://www.pbase.com/glutier

--
-marius
Visit the S602Z FAQ: http://www.marius.org/fuji602faq.php
Fuji Forum Mugshot at http://www.fujimugs.com/

 

[Shoester]

This is not anything that I am familiar with but, I did see some software at one of the Fuji sites for a "6900 customizer". It only allows a couple of things "customized", but it may offer some insight into how the firmware is structured.

Or maybe not, FWIW. Looking forward to developments in this thread, so I'll get out of the way......

Regards, Shoester

 

[jkirk@oz]

marius wrote:
There's a few things we should probably see if we can get:

• a 6900 code, since that has the stuff like continuous numbering

Very easy, already done.

• a way to pull the existing image off our cameras.. does anyone

see anything in the decoded file referencing the "magic directory
name" that it will pull updates out of? Maybe there's something
around there about dumping flash to disk as well..

To download - Just create this path on a SM card and put the S3 file in it -
A:\IMFIDX10\MV320RSC.S3

Remove CF card and power on - Thats all. Since we HAVE the original code, we probably WON'T need to read the Firmware.

• If all this works out, I'd say we need a wishlist but I think we

already have a really long wishlist

Waaaaaaay ahead of you

Benoit Racicot wrote:
There is a lot of stuff in there. Lots to see, even in ASCII only.
I don't have a disassembler either.
What worries me though, is that even if this firmware version has
new stuff like continuous numbering, etc. There is a chance that
the image quality could be lower than what we all currently have,
if they've been experimenting with algorithms...
If there was a way to test it safely!

Sorry, this is ONLY the original code (which is actually a blessing). They would never "experiment" then release it as an update.

Benoit
http://www.pbase.com/glutier

-marius
Visit the S602Z FAQ: http://www.marius.org/fuji602faq.php
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