R5 LCD display is always on Live View

[resajdak]

Just got the R5 yesterday and I'm happy with everything except the rear LCD is always on Live View.

I want it act act like my 5D4 where the LCD is off while the camera is on and after I take a shot the photo appears on the LCD for a few seconds for review and then the LCD goes off.

Any idea how to change this?

 

[birdbrain]

Where do you find that option? For me the menu on my R6 looks the same.

R5 only

 

[JaJan]

R5 only

Oh.. Well I guess Canons logic is that the R5 still has the top screen, too bad :/

 

[MeyerG]

I just received my R5 a week ago and went on my first shoot. I totally agree that a firmware fix would be helpful. Having the rear screen on when I have my camera over my should on a strap is wasting battery power.

Even if you set a custom button to toggle the screen and viewfinder on and off, anything that waves past the eye sensor turns the screen on.

The Fuji T series has the various options. You can set the rear screen to turn on briefly after a shot and then off again and the viewfinder still turns off and on when you raise your eye to the view finder.

This would be a worthwhile option to add to the existing options. The camera would also stay cooler since the screen were not on constantly.

 

[birdbrain]

I just received my R5 a week ago and went on my first shoot. I totally agree that a firmware fix would be helpful. Having the rear screen on when I have my camera over my should on a strap is wasting battery power.

Even if you set a custom button to toggle the screen and viewfinder on and off, anything that waves past the eye sensor turns the screen on.

The Fuji T series has the various options. You can set the rear screen to turn on briefly after a shot and then off again and the viewfinder still turns off and on when you raise your eye to the view finder.

This would be a worthwhile option to add to the existing options. The camera would also stay cooler since the screen were not on constantly.

Have you updated the camera firmware to the latest version?

If you do you can turn the rear screen off. With it only working when looking at an image or the menu.

 

[Sittatunga]

Having the camera switched on when it's over your shoulder on a strap is wasting battery power.

 

[Jack Pangolin]

Whatever chances of success I may have, I'll try to suggest the following scenario to Canon in order to address this need.

Would someone be kind enough to quickly review and correct my text as english is not my native language ?

My purpose is to get it as clear as possible to increase my chances of being listened to. Any advice much appreciated.

Many thanks !

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Dear Madam, dear Sir,

I'm a professional photographer and recent owner of a Canon EOS R5 (Firmware 1.2) and would like to humbly raise a suggestion to help improve its usefulness.

I am confused by the main LCD screen being always on while the EVF is turned off. I have no use of a main screen turned on by default. Indeed this leads to an excessive power drain and is a source of mis uses by accidentaly touching the screen.

Hereafter is a suggested way of managing the displays I would feel relevant and meaningful for the sake of power consumption:

• R5 is on and ready to shoot
• EVF and main screen are turned off by default
• EVF automatically turns on, with no delay, when I approach my eye
• I take a picture
• EVF automatically turns off when I remove my eye
• Depending on the chosen review option, main screen automatically and briefly turns on for reviewing the picture, and then turns back off (at this point, both EVF and main screen have been turned back off)
• Whenever I half-press the shutter button or approach my eye to the EVF, main screen immediatly turns off

Additionnally I would still be able to manually turn the main screen on for displaying my pictures or the settings etc... by pushing the corresponding button (display button / info button / quick settings button...), pretty much like on an EOS 5DMkIV.

This scenario I'm wording here might be relevant and meaningful to avoid the excessive power consumption caused by the main screen being kept turned on and therefore to improve battery life.
This scenario could be triggered by a new "AUTO3" value in the EVF/display options and featured by a future firmware.

Kindly consider this humble suggestion.

Sincerely yours,

This is so logical to me as well. If you have any success, please share! I am a real estate photographer and have blown through a battery in just two homes worth of shooting... it's silly to have the screen on as you are going from room to room etc.

Your request is exactly what it should do. Just like every other camera has done before it. We must be dinosaurs used to the old ways.

Thank you for keeping this topic up. It's a valid request!

I Don't know whether Canon are reading this forum, but, as other commenters stated, the knew 1.3.0+ firmware does introduce such an option (as a new item in the info display options).

From now on, rear screen is kept off, and briefly turns on whenever I take a pic for quick review. Hurray !

That's the very behaviour I (among others) had been expecting. Eventually that need has been judged relevant to Canon and I cannot help but thank them.

Case closed !

 

[Lloyd709]

I'm using firmware 1.4 on my R6 and can't find an otption for this under Shooting info disp. Is this just a R5 update anyone know?

 

[Lloyd709]

Replying to my own post here.

I've just borrowed an R5 from a friend and noticed he has the option which is option 6 (Screen Off) on the Screen info Settings under Shooting info Disp. However, I don't have the the number 6 option on my R6. His R5 is running firmware version 1.3.1 and my R6 1.4. I don't really want to update his firmware so not sure if you lose the option for version 1.4 or if it's just not there for the R6 (which is what I suspect).

Two things that need to be confirmed. First, running firmware 1.3.x on the R6 does it have this option (i,e do you lose it when you go to 1.4). Second (but related) does the R5 lose this option if running firmware 1.4.x?

 

[UZI2D30]

Replying to my own post here.

I've just borrowed an R5 from a friend and noticed he has the option which is option 6 (Screen Off) on the Screen info Settings under Shooting info Disp. However, I don't have the the number 6 option on my R6. His R5 is running firmware version 1.3.1 and my R6 1.4. I don't really want to update his firmware so not sure if you lose the option for version 1.4 or if it's just not there for the R6 (which is what I suspect).

Two things that need to be confirmed. First, running firmware 1.3.x on the R6 does it have this option (i,e do you lose it when you go to 1.4). Second (but related) does the R5 lose this option if running firmware 1.4.x?

It has never been ported to the R6. It didn't exist in 1.3.x or before. I've been eagerly awaiting this feature on the R6 since the DPReview moderator decided to delete posts in this 'discussion' a year ago when people were asking why it couldn't be done, saying it already was done, or why it should never be done.

Still holding out hope that the R6 gets option 6.

 

[Lloyd709]

Thanks for confirming - my friend lent me his R5 because he's thinking of selling it and I'm tempted for that feature alone. What game are Canon playing not putting that feature on the R6.

Also, the R6 also doesn't have the ability to use the cable stabiliser thing - the threaded hole is not there on the R6 to mount it. I hired an R5 a while ago for a job that I need to tether and it worked perfectly - disappointed that the R6 can't use it.

 

[Shaun Gibbs]

Thanks for confirming - my friend lent me his R5 because he's thinking of selling it and I'm tempted for that feature alone. What game are Canon playing not putting that feature on the R6.

Also, the R6 also doesn't have the ability to use the cable stabiliser thing - the threaded hole is not there on the R6 to mount it. I hired an R5 a while ago for a job that I need to tether and it worked perfectly - disappointed that the R6 can't use it.

Unfortunately, that's the name of the game, whatever brand.

No camera has all the features we want as individuals.

Even if you pay top dollar, you wont get it ALL.

Same with cars, computers or any other commodity.

That's life. It is what it is.

Enjoy what you have and make the most of it.

Take beautiful photos and be a better photographer with what you have.

 

[birdbrain]

Thanks for confirming - my friend lent me his R5 because he's thinking of selling it and I'm tempted for that feature alone. What game are Canon playing not putting that feature on the R6.

Also, the R6 also doesn't have the ability to use the cable stabiliser thing - the threaded hole is not there on the R6 to mount it. I hired an R5 a while ago for a job that I need to tether and it worked perfectly - disappointed that the R6 can't use it.

The latest R6 update fixed the IBIS issue with non IS lenses.

We are still waiting for the same fix for the R5.

 

[Lloyd709]

Thanks for confirming - my friend lent me his R5 because he's thinking of selling it and I'm tempted for that feature alone. What game are Canon playing not putting that feature on the R6.

Also, the R6 also doesn't have the ability to use the cable stabiliser thing - the threaded hole is not there on the R6 to mount it. I hired an R5 a while ago for a job that I need to tether and it worked perfectly - disappointed that the R6 can't use it.

Unfortunately, that's the name of the game, whatever brand.

No camera has all the features we want as individuals.

Even if you pay top dollar, you wont get it ALL.

Same with cars, computers or any other commodity.

That's life. It is what it is.

Enjoy what you have and make the most of it.

Take beautiful photos and be a better photographer with what you have.

Ahh, I'm enlightened - I guess you are having a bit of time off from taking beautiful photos browsing dpreview forums (aka 'all about gear' forums) !!!!

 

[jm_saiz]

Ok I believe it can be done, it involves a few steps though...

These steps are for firmware Ver. 1.4.0

I specify this because I believe some items have moved around with different firmware versions.

1. Go to the yellow menu, page 3 (SET UP3).

• For "Screen/viewfinder display" select "AUTO2".

2. Go to the red menu, page 7 (SHOOT7).

• Under "Image review" set the review duration to whatever you like. I used 2 sec. and kept "Viewfinder review" disabled.
• This is the important part. In the same SHOOT7 tab go to "Shooting info. disp." then select "Screen info. settings". Make sure you checkmark the "Screen Off" box. For me it is number 6. In my case I selected and configured one screen with just the electronic level, one with all the parameters AND the "Screen Off" one.

This way you can cycle through the info. displays you selected using the info button on the back of your camera. When you cycle through and get to the screen off, you can operate the camera the way you could with previuos models. Screen will be off, the EVF will turn on when you put your eye near the sensor and when you snap a photo the rear view screen will show the photo for the selected amount of time and then turn off again!

I hope this helps and wasn't too convoluted.

 

[r6 shooter]

So is there a way to make it behave as listed in the 3 bullet points above? How does one do that? Should I go ML at some point I'd be interested in this as well.

Mark

Not possible.

You could configure the camera to have the LCD off. The EVF will go dark after a few seconds and switch on again as soon as you put in on your eye. But picture review will then be on the EVF only.

You might in addition to that assign EVF/LCD swap to a button but then the camera has a clear tendency to fall back to the LCD. You would use that button quite often.

A mirror less camera is on live view at default. It has nothing else. That is one of the very big improvements over DSLR's. ;-) And no! DSLM's will never ever behave like DSLR's.

There's no reason for live view to be on all the time, not only is it a big power draw but many people still do not use the LCD to compose 100% of the time. Otherwise why even include an EVF?

all you do is press Info a few times then it just shows the settings no liveview. you can also set a button to toggle lcd on/off but it's just unnecessary imo. just press info a few times to turn off liveview and you're good to go.

 

[Lloyd709]

Yup, that method became available since a certain update a while ago. I know the name of the this thread is 'R5 LCD display ....' but the issue now is that this method is not available for the R6 for some reason (at least the last time I tried). The only reason for this that I can think of is that as the R6 does not have a screen on the top of the camera Canon believes everyone will want the screen on the back on all the time!!. This was one of my reasons (justifications) for selling my R6 and buying the R5 - or maybe Canon's reason was because they want people to buy the R5 over the R6!!!!

 

[r6 shooter]

Yup, that method became available since a certain update a while ago. I know the name of the this thread is 'R5 LCD display ....' but the issue now is that this method is not available for the R6 for some reason (at least the last time I tried). The only reason for this that I can think of is that as the R6 does not have a screen on the top of the camera Canon believes everyone will want the screen on the back on all the time!!. This was one of my reasons (justifications) for selling my R6 and buying the R5 - or maybe Canon's reason was because they want people to buy the R5 over the R6!!!!

you have to be hard trolling. you press INFO a few times so it only shows the settings no liveview. you can turn down the LCD brightness if you find it too bright. then every time you put your face to the viewfinder, the lcd turns off automatically. when you bring it away from your face, the lcd shows your settings.

you can also set a key to turn off the LCD whenever you want so if you want the camera on but don't want the LCD on, this solves that too.

the idea that you need the LCD to be off so hard to the point where that's your reasoning to get an R5 is so cringe. this is pure inability to adapt and you just want it to feel like your old DSLR. that's all this is. nothing to do with anything that actually matters. the lcd with no liveview just showing settings is not going to eat all your battery. not to mention you can always lower the brightness, set a hotkey to turn off the lcd, or just use viewfinder only.

 

[BBR5]

Many different preferences, with a variety of options. I use the EVF almost exclusively and leave the LCD closed with the screen facing the body. So the LCD is always off and the EVF turns off soon after I move the camera away from my eye. If I need the LCD for something, I open it.

 

[Lloyd709]

Oh dear, I forgot the types on dpreview!! Why go on the attack?

I simply don't want my screen on (or to come on when the camera moves close to my body and thinks it's next to my eye). To give you one reason (and there are others), when I'm shooting a theatre production (or any delicate situation) I don't want any light coming from the back of my camera when I don't want it to! OK, I can hear you say well turn the screen around. My answer to that is that when I do gimp at the image I want to do it fast. That alone was enough to justify upgrading to the R5 for me.

 

[Sittatunga]

Oh dear, I forgot the types on dpreview!! Why go on the attack?

I simply don't want my screen on (or to come on when the camera moves close to my body and thinks it's next to my eye). To give you one reason (and there are others), when I'm shooting a theatre production (or any delicate situation) I don't want any light coming from the back of my camera when I don't want it to! OK, I can hear you say well turn the screen around. My answer to that is that when I do gimp at the image I want to do it fast. That alone was enough to justify upgrading to the R5 for me.

Surely the quickest way to chimp at your last image is through the viewfinder, just press the review button without taking the camera away from your face.