R1: “Not a flagship camera” after all?

[Photo-opinion]

According to one rumour-supplying Youtuber answering someone in the comments column.

Why? Because according to a podcast he’s picked up, the R1 will have a 24mp sensor. Of course, “that’s enough”. (Why do we keep hearing that in 2024, when the other two big boys—or girls, let’s not be sexist—and maybe we should even include Fuji, seem to think so for a flagship camera and haven’t since 2021?)

https://blog.jholko.com/2024/05/25/...anon-eos-r1-will-be-24-mega-pixels-with-qpaf/

 

[R2D2]

According to one rumour-supplying Youtuber answering someone in the comments column.

Why? Because according to a podcast he’s picked up, the R1 will have a 24mp sensor. Of course, “that’s enough”. (Why do we keep hearing that in 2024, when the other two big boys—or girls, let’s not be sexist—and maybe we should even include Fuji, seem to think so for a flagship camera and haven’t since 2021?)

https://blog.jholko.com/2024/05/25/...anon-eos-r1-will-be-24-mega-pixels-with-qpaf/

Canon has always segmented their body offerings by potential usage.

R2

 

[Photo-opinion]

According to one rumour-supplying Youtuber answering someone in the comments column.

Why? Because according to a podcast he’s picked up, the R1 will have a 24mp sensor. Of course, “that’s enough”. (Why do we keep hearing that in 2024, when the other two big boys—or girls, let’s not be sexist—and maybe we should even include Fuji, seem to think so for a flagship camera and haven’t since 2021?)

https://blog.jholko.com/2024/05/25/...anon-eos-r1-will-be-24-mega-pixels-with-qpaf/

Canon has always segmented their body offerings by potential usage.

R2

I meant of course ‘seem not to think so’ but someone was so quick off the mark I couldn’t edit it.

 

[Photo-opinion]

I meant ‘seem not to’ of course, but someone responded before I could edit the post.

 

[PicPocket]

According to one rumour-supplying Youtuber answering someone in the comments column.

Why? Because according to a podcast he’s picked up, the R1 will have a 24mp sensor. Of course, “that’s enough”. (Why do we keep hearing that in 2024, when the other two big boys—or girls, let’s not be sexist—and maybe we should even include Fuji, seem to think so for a flagship camera and haven’t since 2021?)

https://blog.jholko.com/2024/05/25/...anon-eos-r1-will-be-24-mega-pixels-with-qpaf/

I guess people who care more about MP as opposed to things like QPAF will likely won't buy it. If that spec is deliberate, this outcome could also be factored in. I am sure Canon knows most people don't buy a flagship. Just enough they plan to make

5DS R wasn't a flagship too, all its mega pixels aside. But surely some people don't get that at all

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PicPocket

 

[Leigh A]

Depends upon one's definitive qualifications to earn the so-called "flagship" title?

(1) The most expensive?

(2) The best build quality?

(3) The highest overall performance?

(4) The highest resolution?

While #2 would be universal, #3 & #4 may be defendant upon user and purpose.

A dedicated Sports-action shooter would likely choose #3 over #4, whereas a dedicated Landscape photographer would likely choose #4 over #3.

For those that find it necessary to crown a particular camera body as a "flagship", there's no reason why there can't be both a Sports/action flagship as the R1 & R3 series, and a Landscape/scenic flagship as the R5 series. ;-)

 

[MarshallG]

According to one rumour-supplying Youtuber answering someone in the comments column.

Why? Because according to a podcast he’s picked up, the R1 will have a 24mp sensor. Of course, “that’s enough”. (Why do we keep hearing that in 2024, when the other two big boys—or girls, let’s not be sexist—and maybe we should even include Fuji, seem to think so for a flagship camera and haven’t since 2021?)

https://blog.jholko.com/2024/05/25/...anon-eos-r1-will-be-24-mega-pixels-with-qpaf/

This blog is pure, uninformed drivel. Canon flagships have always had lower resolution and higher frame rates with better AF

 

[Leigh A]

"Who cares?

Apparently, anyone who replies to the thread, including you, otherwise they would not have responded. :-D

 

[dmanthree]

According to one rumour-supplying Youtuber answering someone in the comments column.

Why? Because according to a podcast he’s picked up, the R1 will have a 24mp sensor. Of course, “that’s enough”. (Why do we keep hearing that in 2024, when the other two big boys—or girls, let’s not be sexist—and maybe we should even include Fuji, seem to think so for a flagship camera and haven’t since 2021?)

https://blog.jholko.com/2024/05/25/...anon-eos-r1-will-be-24-mega-pixels-with-qpaf/

*If* this is true then let the pros who will use this decide. I'm sure Canon reached out to their primary customer base for this camera before finalizing the design. And for PJ/Sports shooters, well, is that enough for them since the vast majority of their shots end on on web sites?

 

[ptambori]

Depends upon one's definitive qualifications to earn the so-called "flagship" title?

(1) The most expensive?

(2) The best build quality?

(3) The highest overall performance?

(4) The highest resolution?

While #2 would be universal, #3 & #4 may be defendant upon user and purpose.

A dedicated Sports-action shooter would likely choose #3 over #4, whereas a dedicated Landscape photographer would likely choose #4 over #3.

For those that find it necessary to crown a particular camera body as a "flagship", there's no reason why there can't be both a Sports/action flagship as the R1 & R3 series, and a Landscape/scenic flagship as the R5 series. ;-)

Virtually all of the Royal Navy's flagships unfortunately went under!
Being a "flagship" seems to be a bad omen.

 

[JustUs7]

Anyone using megapixel count as the primary measuring stick of what makes a great camera really doesn’t know what they’re talking about.

 

[BBR5]

Ideas of what makes a flagship vary greatly. And none of the various flagships are best in every category. Make your choice and pay a premium for what tickles your fancy. Don't be like me and be willing to settle for something less like an R6II that takes great pictures, and is comfortable and fairly easy to use.

 

[jjbinx]

Canon is just the manufacturer [the shipbuilder]
They don’t have operational fleets

We purchase cameras and lenses and build our own operational fleet

I have gear made by Olympus and Canon covering Micro Fourthirds, APS-C and Full Frame, DSLR and Mirrorless.

Within my personal camera fleet I have a body and a lens which for me are my flagships

jj

 

[PicPocket]

Canon is just the manufacturer [the shipbuilder]
They don’t have operational fleets

We purchase cameras and lenses and build our own operational fleet
I have gear made by Olympus and Canon covering Micro Fourthirds, APS-C and Full Frame, DSLR and Mirrorless.

Within my personal camera fleet I have a body and a lens which for me are my flagships

Speaking "metaphorically" a flagship needs a context. Yours and Canon's can and usually mean a different thing, and normally have nothing to do with fleets in naval terms (even though the term originated there)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flagship

Over the years, the term "flagship" has become a metaphor used in industries such as broadcasting, automobiles, education, technology, airlines, and retail to refer to their highest profile or most expensive products and locations

People here can argue endlessly about this, in the end, the context is that Canon simply places R1 at the top of their product line for whatever reason it excels in. If it's not the best in terms of MP, it will have to make up with some other strengths to appeal to consumers. It's for Canon to make it appeal, and for consumer to choose. I don't see others trying to make a case for or against that in what is basically a bilateral transaction

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PicPocket

 

[R2D2]

Canon is just the manufacturer [the shipbuilder]
They don’t have operational fleets

We purchase cameras and lenses and build our own operational fleet
I have gear made by Olympus and Canon covering Micro Fourthirds, APS-C and Full Frame, DSLR and Mirrorless.

Within my personal camera fleet I have a body and a lens which for me are my flagships

Speaking "metaphorically" a flagship needs a context. Yours and Canon's can and usually mean a different thing, and normally have nothing to do with fleets in naval terms (even though the term originated there)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flagship

Over the years, the term "flagship" has become a metaphor used in industries such as broadcasting, automobiles, education, technology, airlines, and retail to refer to their highest profile or most expensive products and locations

People here can argue endlessly about this, in the end, the context is that Canon simply places R1 at the top of their product line for whatever reason it excels in. If it's not the best in terms of MP, it will have to make up with some other strengths to appeal to consumers. It's for Canon to make it appeal, and for consumer to choose. I don't see others trying to make a case for or against that in what is basically a bilateral transaction

Well said.

R2

 

[CamerEyes]

According to one rumour-supplying Youtuber answering someone in the comments column.

Why? Because according to a podcast he’s picked up, the R1 will have a 24mp sensor. Of course, “that’s enough”. (Why do we keep hearing that in 2024, when the other two big boys—or girls, let’s not be sexist—and maybe we should even include Fuji, seem to think so for a flagship camera and haven’t since 2021?)

https://blog.jholko.com/2024/05/25/...anon-eos-r1-will-be-24-mega-pixels-with-qpaf/

Maybe it's the Canon flagship for 2024-2026. Viewing it that way, the other killer features - outside of MP - are what can set it apart from other Canon bodies. Whether it sets them apart from the flagships of Nikon, Sony, etc. largely depends on the final product that Canon will release.

 

[Nimonus]

It has to be the flagship in Canon’s dream.

There are no Sony, Nikon in the dream.

What a dream.

 

[Sittatunga]

It has to be the flagship in Canon’s dream.

There are no Sony, Nikon in the dream.

What a dream.

Sounds like your dream. I don't think Canon want to eliminate the other manufacturers, they just want to make money.

 

[Stig Nygaard]

There's really nothing surprising here. Especially considering the timing and wording of the pre-announcement. Target group for Canon's 1-series is clearly the same it has been in many years.

Canon has always been putting a lot prestige into making a 1-series camera optimized to be a fast workhorse for the photo agencies and their photographers at the big sports events (with Summer Olympics as the most important). They want very fast camera and moderate file-sizes (resolution) for fast camera off-load, curation, processing and transferring of image files. Remember these photographers even shoot in JPG-format for the same reason!

People should give up the idea that a "flagship camera" equals your personal dream camera. Needs and priorities are not the same for all photographers.

Most people complaining will probably be much more interested in a camera like the upcoming R5II.

 

[PicPocket]

It has to be the flagship in Canon’s dream.

There are no Sony, Nikon in the dream.

What a dream.

It is not possible to see what is in anyone else's dreams. People often imagine things that make up their own dreams

If you wake up, things may look very different