Question on Flashpoint/Godox trigger interoperability

[Kumsa]

CONTEXT: My Adorama Orlit strobes/flashes are orphaned . No support and no further development. I'm looking to transition over to Flashpoint/Godox. There are lot's of great companies available. However, for (1) Adorama support for Godox via their Flashpoint house brand; (2) cost (I'd be happy to go to Profoto, otherwise); and (3) significant product line.

QUESTION: Are there any interoperability issues between Flashpoint/Godox and generic Godox products ? For instance, would there be interoperability issued if I have a Flashpoint R2 trigger and pick up a used Godox VING V860IIC flash or a Godox AD600Pro Witstro (ala BandH) ?

Thanks for an shared experience !

 

[jlafferty]

No issues.

Are you near NYC? If so, I suggest you take advantage of their in-store firmware upgrades.

 

[MartinEurope]

otherwise;

See: https://www.elinchrom.com/

 

[Paul]

I usually buy flashpoint products since adorama provides support and longer warranty in US, I have a few godox triggers, everything is exactly the same, incl firmware, flashpoint just sometimes takes a little longer to come out with their own firmware version. there is no problem running godox firmware on flashpoint or the other way around. its the same product, just a different name on it.

 

[kli]

... Are there any interoperability issues between Flashpoint/Godox and generic Godox products ?

No. The rebranding seems to primarily be for retailers offering customer support. Instead of logging serial numbers, it's just simpler to rebrand and print a different name on the face of the trigger/flash/strobe (e.g., Flashpoint, Pixapro, Stroboss, Cheetah) to know that it's a unit sold by you that you're supporting or replacing under warranty.

All the firmware images work across the rebranding. The units are physically identical.

The only real discrepancy between Flashpoint and Godox is that Adorama has two transmitter units that are exclusive to them that do not have Godox counterparts that are in the system: the R2 SPT (single-pin transceivers) and the R2 Pro II. And that not all of the AC-powered Godox manual monolight models are rebranded as Flashpoint by them, but are sold as generic Godox-branded. So, the Godox = Flashpoint thing isn't exactly one-to-one-equivalent on everything in the system.

Godox also proliferated manual AC-powered monolights like rabbits, both before and after they created the X 2.4 GHz system. The only models that have a built-in radio receiver that allows for remote power control in the Godox X system are the MS series, and any of the Mk II and Mk III versions. In general, avoid any Godox strobe that isn't in those groups (no bulit-in radio, and possibly no Bowens modifier mount, e.g. the Godox E300).

There's also the fact that some of the Jinbei strobes were actually branded as Flashpoint (compare with HDII-600) by Adorama before they realized the confusion that was causing and they came up with the separate Orlit label. So make sure if you're shopping older used Flashpoint gear that it says "Flashpoint R2" if you want it in the Godox X system. The "Flashpoint R1" gear is in Godox's older 433 MHz system (Cells II, FT16 transmitters).

 

[Kumsa]

Great content kli.

I'm only looking at wireless, battery strobes and flashes. And, if I look at used Flashpoint, I'll follow your lead: " if you're shopping older used Flashpoint gear that it says "Flashpoint R2" if you want it in the Godox X system."

Question: you mention that the R2 Pro II is exclusively Adorama. Is that a suggestion to avoid it ? Or are you simply dotting i's and crossing t's in your overview ?

Thanks !

 

[kli]

Question: you mention that the R2 Pro II is exclusively Adorama. Is that a suggestion to avoid it ? Or are you simply dotting i's and crossing t's in your overview ?

I'm mentioning it because it can mean trying to purchase one (or the R2 SPTs) can easily double the price or remove them altogether as a purchasing option if you're outside the US. Certainly not suggesting you avoid them if you're in the US.

Godox does look to be creating a new XPro II (see XProL II for Leica), which will give folks outside the US an option that's similar to the R2 Pro II with the bluetooth and SCAN functions. But they haven't yet announced any versions for brands other than Leica, and the price at the moment is $130, not $70.

 

[mHillPhoto]

Edit - I got the Flashpoint R2 Receiver to work with the X3-N. HSS works flawlessly when you turn on both flicker reduction settings in the photo shooting menu.

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Do you know if there is an analogous Flashpoint product for the Godox Cells ii transceiver and receiver? Looking for one of these , but can't find it anywhere.

Trying to get HSS to work on the AR400 ring flash with my Z8 to no avail. Tried the X3 and the FT-Sixteen. Will bet trying a sync cable when it gets here.