PS: Impossible Selections with ONE CLICK

[Night Pixel]

Unmesh Dinada is back again with an amazing demonstration of a new feature in Photoshop. Here he shows how much one-click selections and background removal / mask creation has advanced within the last year:

00:00 Intro - Select Subject

01:30 How to Get This Feature?

02:06 Complex Object - Example 1

03:56 Complex Object - Example 2

05:24 Selecting Hair

07:14 Select Subject - Device vs Cloud

08:53 Concerns - Will Adobe Charge Extra For This?

This is really amazing technology and but may upset old school PS users who like to use time-consuming complex techniques. You cannot make a mask like the one shown in the thumbnal using the Pen Tool in less than a few hours. Here it takes seconds!



--
"A photograph is a secret about a secret. The more it tells you the less you know." - Diane Arbus

 

[ishwanu]

This is really amazing technology

It is indeed.

and but may upset old school PS users who like to use time-consuming complex techniques.

If there are such people who prefer to spend hours making pixel-perfect selections, I see no reason for them to be upset out this for that reason. They can still do what they like to do.

But this is obviously another jump in the continuous advancements of AI, and people might do well to be concerned about the consequences of ever-advancing AI in general and the big picture of its possible effects on society - a different subject.

 

[Major Jack]

Unmesh Dinada is back again with an amazing demonstration of a new feature in Photoshop. Here he shows how much one-click selections and background removal / mask creation has advanced within the last year:

00:00 Intro - Select Subject

01:30 How to Get This Feature?

02:06 Complex Object - Example 1

03:56 Complex Object - Example 2

05:24 Selecting Hair

07:14 Select Subject - Device vs Cloud

08:53 Concerns - Will Adobe Charge Extra For This?

This is really amazing technology and but may upset old school PS users who like to use time-consuming complex techniques. You cannot make a mask like the one shown in the thumbnal using the Pen Tool in less than a few hours. Here it takes seconds!

Just watched that video on YouTube myself. Looks very promising also, especially the hair extractions also.

 

[TorsteinH]

Very impressive indeed!

It may make me take a subscription to the Adobe photo plan sometime in the future. Do you believe that Adobe will charge extra for the cloud selection tools?

 

[Major Jack]

Very impressive indeed!

It may make me take a subscription to the Adobe photo plan sometime in the future. Do you believe that Adobe will charge extra for the cloud selection tools?

If you are a subscriber, they do not charge you extra for the new tools. You get them as part of your annual subscription. Now, there has been some "talk" about them charging for some of their Ai Tools eventually, but I am not sure if they have or not.

Typically, if you own the annual subscription plan, you will get all the updates they offer for free. That is the BIG benefit of being a Subscription holder.

 

[LarryRC]

Thanks for posting the video. Amazing!

I wish he'd specify actual versions which as I wasn't sure when this was posted. Have these features been incorporated into PS 2025 yet?

 

[TorsteinH]

Very impressive indeed!

It may make me take a subscription to the Adobe photo plan sometime in the future. Do you believe that Adobe will charge extra for the cloud selection tools?

If you are a subscriber, they do not charge you extra for the new tools. You get them as part of your annual subscription. Now, there has been some "talk" about them charging for some of their Ai Tools eventually, but I am not sure if they have or not.

Typically, if you own the annual subscription plan, you will get all the updates they offer for free. That is the BIG benefit of being a Subscription holder.

I believe this was a tool that need an external server to run the heavy AI processing and not just a new tool in PS. Running that server must have a rather high cost for Adobe, but with their new pricing that may be OK for them...?

 

[LarryRC]

Very impressive indeed!

It may make me take a subscription to the Adobe photo plan sometime in the future. Do you believe that Adobe will charge extra for the cloud selection tools?

If you are a subscriber, they do not charge you extra for the new tools. You get them as part of your annual subscription. Now, there has been some "talk" about them charging for some of their Ai Tools eventually, but I am not sure if they have or not.

Typically, if you own the annual subscription plan, you will get all the updates they offer for free. That is the BIG benefit of being a Subscription holder.

I believe this was a tool that need an external server to run the heavy AI processing and not just a new tool in PS. Running that server must have a rather high cost for Adobe, but with their new pricing that may be OK for them...?

My grandfathered LRC and PS for $124 per year gives me 250 Generative credits per month. I just check and i have 230 credits left for the month. Didn’t see what they’d be charging after 250. I like the model as it allows big users to pay more and myself who use it far less less.

 

[TorsteinH]

Very impressive indeed!

It may make me take a subscription to the Adobe photo plan sometime in the future. Do you believe that Adobe will charge extra for the cloud selection tools?

If you are a subscriber, they do not charge you extra for the new tools. You get them as part of your annual subscription. Now, there has been some "talk" about them charging for some of their Ai Tools eventually, but I am not sure if they have or not.

Typically, if you own the annual subscription plan, you will get all the updates they offer for free. That is the BIG benefit of being a Subscription holder.

I believe this was a tool that need an external server to run the heavy AI processing and not just a new tool in PS. Running that server must have a rather high cost for Adobe, but with their new pricing that may be OK for them...?

My grandfathered LRC and PS for $124 per year gives me 250 Generative credits per month. I just check and i have 230 credits left for the month. Didn’t see what they’d be charging after 250. I like the model as it allows big users to pay more and myself who use it far less less.

I guess you will have to use some of your generative credits on selections in the future.

 

[Night Pixel]

Thanks for posting the video. Amazing!

I wish he'd specify actual versions which as I wasn't sure when this was posted. Have these features been incorporated into PS 2025 yet?

He shows that this is in the BETA version right now and will move to standard release sometime soon.

 

[Night Pixel]

Very impressive indeed!

It may make me take a subscription to the Adobe photo plan sometime in the future. Do you believe that Adobe will charge extra for the cloud selection tools?

If you are a subscriber, they do not charge you extra for the new tools. You get them as part of your annual subscription. Now, there has been some "talk" about them charging for some of their Ai Tools eventually, but I am not sure if they have or not.

Typically, if you own the annual subscription plan, you will get all the updates they offer for free. That is the BIG benefit of being a Subscription holder.

I believe this was a tool that need an external server to run the heavy AI processing and not just a new tool in PS. Running that server must have a rather high cost for Adobe, but with their new pricing that may be OK for them...?

My grandfathered LRC and PS for $124 per year gives me 250 Generative credits per month. I just check and i have 230 credits left for the month. Didn’t see what they’d be charging after 250. I like the model as it allows big users to pay more and myself who use it far less less.

For professionals who need these kinds of complex cutouts regularly time is money. If you can produce significantly more output in way shorter time then paying for credits is going to be a non-issue.

 

[TorsteinH]

Very impressive indeed!

It may make me take a subscription to the Adobe photo plan sometime in the future. Do you believe that Adobe will charge extra for the cloud selection tools?

If you are a subscriber, they do not charge you extra for the new tools. You get them as part of your annual subscription. Now, there has been some "talk" about them charging for some of their Ai Tools eventually, but I am not sure if they have or not.

Typically, if you own the annual subscription plan, you will get all the updates they offer for free. That is the BIG benefit of being a Subscription holder.

I believe this was a tool that need an external server to run the heavy AI processing and not just a new tool in PS. Running that server must have a rather high cost for Adobe, but with their new pricing that may be OK for them...?

My grandfathered LRC and PS for $124 per year gives me 250 Generative credits per month. I just check and i have 230 credits left for the month. Didn’t see what they’d be charging after 250. I like the model as it allows big users to pay more and myself who use it far less less.

For professionals who need these kinds of complex cutouts regularly time is money. If you can produce significantly more output in way shorter time then paying for credits is going to be a non-issue.

Of course, if you live of your photography, it's a non-issue. I was speaking for myself, a half retired amateur, then the costs start to count more.

 

[Major Jack]

Very impressive indeed!

It may make me take a subscription to the Adobe photo plan sometime in the future. Do you believe that Adobe will charge extra for the cloud selection tools?

If you are a subscriber, they do not charge you extra for the new tools. You get them as part of your annual subscription. Now, there has been some "talk" about them charging for some of their Ai Tools eventually, but I am not sure if they have or not.

Typically, if you own the annual subscription plan, you will get all the updates they offer for free. That is the BIG benefit of being a Subscription holder.

I believe this was a tool that need an external server to run the heavy AI processing and not just a new tool in PS. Running that server must have a rather high cost for Adobe, but with their new pricing that may be OK for them...?

Yes, it is called Firefly, and it is part of Adobe's Ai Software. It is built into Photoshop also, and is accessed two ways.

https://www.adobe.com/products/firefly.html

1. In the TOOL bar menu when you select the Remove Tool, or Generative Fill Tool.

2. You can turn it ON by going to. Photoshop>Settings>Image Processing. Under the image processing section, under "Select Subject and Remove Background, click on CLOUD in the sub menu section.

 

[ljed]

Looks just like Capture One ("CO") AI Selections. They are on YouTube video from

I understand Adobe implementation is online only. If so, Capture One works off-line so my pictures are still mine (hopefully). CO seems to work faster on my 10-year-old notebook, too.

November 2023 so they must have been introduced about 1.5 years ago.

Which implementation is better? I do not know and will not care to check. CO AI selections work for me just fine.

Why this post? Two love-hate reasons:

1. Adobe is the biggest elephant in town with more users and more cash flows than all competition combined. This near monopoly sucks money from the market. Some competition will have to go no matter how nice products they made. It is rarely the case that monopolies are innovative. Think about Microsoft under S. Ballmer in 2000s. Take Google in the last 10 years with web search going Titanic route quality-wise. Back to graphics software, more money to Adobe will not benefit users.

2. Something makes Adobe users think they got all the best and the latest. True or marketing doctors at work? This case does not confirm the "all" part of the statement. Very similar to some Tesla or Apple users. There must be a saying in English which boils down to: nothing will make you happier than unawareness of other alternatives*.

* dictionary suggests "ignorance" but that is probably offensive and not my point. We all have human limitations like time to expiry so we cannot check every product.

 

[Night Pixel]

From Adobe's Terry Lee White is another great demo of the new technology: He compares the current release version of PS 2025 with the lastest Photoshop Beta to show how the selection logic is improved.

In this demo he uses four progessively more difficult subjects to compare the masks created by the one-click Remove Backgound tool.



--
"A photograph is a secret about a secret. The more it tells you the less you know." - Diane Arbus