Please OM System, can I haz CP function button?

[AznJunkie]

The “new” OM-5 Mark II got a new menu and CP function button. So, I wonder if OM System will be nice to OM-1 (Mark 1 and Mark II) owners and give us a firmware update with the CP function button. The OM-3 has it, so I can’t imagine it would be too difficult to add it to the OM-1 Mark II at least since they share the same hardware. It may seem trivial since you can assign each computational feature to a function button but it would be nice to have all of them in a single function button instead.

So what say you OM-1 owners, would you like to see OM System add the CP to a function button (like the OM-3 and OM-5 Mark II) via a firmware update?

 

[James Stirling]

I only use them occasionally so a separate button would be overkill for me. If you use all the options regularly it would certainly be a handy option

 

[ahaslett]

I'll make a counter proposal that at least one body ought to have RAW exposure aids. That would reposition OMDS as innovators.

Culturally a challenge but easier than metering against jpeg output.

A

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[Sam Bennett]

I only use them occasionally so a separate button would be overkill for me. If you use all the options regularly it would certainly be a handy option

Do you think it's possible you'd use them more often if they were easier to access?

 

[James Stirling]

I'll make a counter proposal that at least one body ought to have RAW exposure aids. That would reposition OMDS as innovators.

A

Given how simple an option that would be. You would think some maker would have done it . Though a lot of folk want a sunshine lollipops and rainbows default output .

 

[Sam Bennett]

The “new” OM-5 Mark II got a new menu and CP function button. So, I wonder if OM System will be nice to OM-1 (Mark 1 and Mark II) owners and give us a firmware update with the CP function button. The OM-3 has it, so I can’t imagine it would be too difficult to add it to the OM-1 Mark II at least since they share the same hardware. It may seem trivial since you can assign each computational feature to a function button but it would be nice to have all of them in a single function button instead.

So what say you OM-1 owners, would you like to see OM System add the CP to a function button (like the OM-3 and OM-5 Mark II) via a firmware update?

I've been loving this on my OM-3, and I find that I utilize them much more often since they're easier to get to. The CP button itself is a "reminder" that they're there (although I've remapped mine to the "Fn" button so I can use the CP button for AF Modes - I think the OM-5 Mark II is actually a better layout here.

I'd love to see this on my OM-1 Mark II as well. Realistically I wouldn't use it quite as often since I primarily use that camera for event photography, but would come in handy while on vacation with both cameras.

 

[James Stirling]

I only use them occasionally so a separate button would be overkill for me. If you use all the options regularly it would certainly be a handy option

Do you think it's possible you'd use them more often if they were easier to access?

I don't think so Sam, I have dabbled with all the various options in my OM-1 and had some fun with the in-camera macro stacking for a spell. Before drifting back to doing the work in post . The tripod pixel shift option can give very good results if your subject is static but is easily impacted by even modest movement

I think at heart I enjoy the process of doing things myself. And having the time to faff about I just prefer this way . As I say if you use a number of these features regularly then a dedicated button would I am sure be attractive .

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[Sam Bennett]

I only use them occasionally so a separate button would be overkill for me. If you use all the options regularly it would certainly be a handy option

Do you think it's possible you'd use them more often if they were easier to access?

I don't think so Sam, I have dabbled with all the various options in my OM-1 and had some fun with the in-camera macro stacking for a spell. Before drifting back to doing the work in post . The tripod pixel shift option can give very good results if your subject is static but is easily impacted by even modest movement

Cool. I use the macro stacking, Live ND and Live GND pretty regularly. Live Composite much less regularly but a place I like to have a lot of fun when on vacation and photography is my focus.

I think at heart I enjoy the process of doing things myself. And having the time to faff about I just prefer this way .

Totally get that. There was a point at which I enjoyed that process, but I simply don't have the time nor the desire to pore over photos at this point. Again, if that's part of photography that you enjoy, more power to you - but that ain't me.

 

[ahaslett]

I'll make a counter proposal that at least one body ought to have RAW exposure aids. That would reposition OMDS as innovators.

A

Given how simple an option that would be. You would think some maker would have done it . Though a lot of folk want a sunshine lollipops and rainbows default output .

I can't find my Tesco photo where the fairy gold is buried at the end of the rainbow under the petrol station.




This exposure bracket will have to do - Abersoch is to the left

A

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[James Stirling]

I'll make a counter proposal that at least one body ought to have RAW exposure aids. That would reposition OMDS as innovators.

A

Given how simple an option that would be. You would think some maker would have done it . Though a lot of folk want a sunshine lollipops and rainbows default output .

I can't find my Tesco photo where the fairy gold is buried at the end of the rainbow under the petrol station.


This exposure bracket will have to do - Abersoch is to the left

A

Lovely scene , other than a couple of sporting events ( international rugby and football ) I have never spent any time in Wales

raw exposure aids would be a very simple thing to provide and could probably be done in a simple firmware update for most cameras. Maybe the makers are scared some reviewer wouldn't understand it and get hideous out of camera results that would seal the fate of the camera

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Jim Stirling:
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Feel free to tinker with any photos I post

 

[Asherax]

I only use them occasionally so a separate button would be overkill for me. If you use all the options regularly it would certainly be a handy option

Do you think it's possible you'd use them more often if they were easier to access?

I don't think so Sam, I have dabbled with all the various options in my OM-1 and had some fun with the in-camera macro stacking for a spell. Before drifting back to doing the work in post . The tripod pixel shift option can give very good results if your subject is static but is easily impacted by even modest movement

Cool. I use the macro stacking, Live ND and Live GND pretty regularly. Live Composite much less regularly but a place I like to have a lot of fun when on vacation and photography is my focus.

I think at heart I enjoy the process of doing things myself. And having the time to faff about I just prefer this way .

Totally get that. There was a point at which I enjoyed that process, but I simply don't have the time nor the desire to pore over photos at this point. Again, if that's part of photography that you enjoy, more power to you - but that ain't me.

When I was doing paid work and going through thousands of photos every week it was a different ball game Now I can take a leisurely approach , I enjoy manual focus, tripods , real filters etc , in other words getting back to the things that appealed to me about photography in the first case.

Doing a ton of paid work was a handy and profitable side business , but I felt it sucked the pleasure right out of photography

This is exactly why I gravitated towards vintage Glass... It is no longer necessary to make anything but timely Artwork, with my preferred medium being light. Taking time over composition, tweaking filters, manually exposing images and using the craft makes photography fun for me, and using vintage glass allows me to experiment far away from the hyper-realism of the uber resolution of super sharp glass. Character and Colour blended with imagination, or high contrast black and white gives me a kind of joy, and I do love Olympus Colour science, even if post can be deeply cathartic and imaginal space. A little bit of joy goes a long way.

 

[ahaslett]

I'll make a counter proposal that at least one body ought to have RAW exposure aids. That would reposition OMDS as innovators.

A

Given how simple an option that would be. You would think some maker would have done it . Though a lot of folk want a sunshine lollipops and rainbows default output .

I can't find my Tesco photo where the fairy gold is buried at the end of the rainbow under the petrol station.


This exposure bracket will have to do - Abersoch is to the left

A

Lovely scene , other than a couple of sporting events ( international rugby and football ) I have never spent any time in Wales

raw exposure aids would be a very simple thing to provide and could probably be done in a simple firmware update for most cameras. Maybe the makers are scared some reviewer wouldn't understand it and get hideous out of camera results that would seal the fate of the camera

Now you have 70 year olds that never took to film and think in camera jpegs are a work of the devil, maybe the time has come to accept that instant images is for phones, and the future of photography is your own digital darkroom. Anselm Adams would be turning in his grave that modern landscape photographers don’t take the time to learn about digital technology the way he did with film.

Andrew

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Please feel free to edit any images that I post

 

[radix1]

The “new” OM-5 Mark II got a new menu and CP function button. So, I wonder if OM System will be nice to OM-1 (Mark 1 and Mark II) owners and give us a firmware update with the CP function button. The OM-3 has it, so I can’t imagine it would be too difficult to add it to the OM-1 Mark II at least since they share the same hardware. It may seem trivial since you can assign each computational feature to a function button but it would be nice to have all of them in a single function button instead.

So what say you OM-1 owners, would you like to see OM System add the CP to a function button (like the OM-3 and OM-5 Mark II) via a firmware update?

since the internal of the OM-5.2 is basically the same with E-M1.3, please firmware update OMDS.

cheers

 

[jefrs]

The “new” OM-5 Mark II got a new menu and CP function button. So, I wonder if OM System will be nice to OM-1 (Mark 1 and Mark II) owners and give us a firmware update with the CP function button. The OM-3 has it, so I can’t imagine it would be too difficult to add it to the OM-1 Mark II at least since they share the same hardware. It may seem trivial since you can assign each computational feature to a function button but it would be nice to have all of them in a single function button instead.

So what say you OM-1 owners, would you like to see OM System add the CP to a function button (like the OM-3 and OM-5 Mark II) via a firmware update?

The OM-1ii does not have a CP button but the red record button can be reassigned from the SCP to a large number of computational functions such as focus-stacking instead if hi-res. This is almost but not quite like the CP button you speak of.

 

[jefrs]

I'll make a counter proposal that at least one body ought to have RAW exposure aids. That would reposition OMDS as innovators.

Culturally a challenge but easier than metering against jpeg output.

A

We already have that, it's called the exposure triangle. We could also chuck in the gain curve, colour profile, and WB correction. Anything that alters the gain alters the raw.

Quite why we insist on the raw every time is beyond me as that is what the camera usually does the job better than any editing app. Just set the camera up to take the photo you want before pressing the shutter. The raw becomes a safety net if you want to mess it about when you got it wrong.

 

[ahaslett]

I'll make a counter proposal that at least one body ought to have RAW exposure aids. That would reposition OMDS as innovators.

Culturally a challenge but easier than metering against jpeg output.

A

We already have that, it's called the exposure triangle. We could also chuck in the gain curve, colour profile, and WB correction. Anything that alters the gain alters the raw.

Quite why we insist on the raw every time is beyond me as that is what the camera usually does the job better than any editing app. Just set the camera up to take the photo you want before pressing the shutter. The raw becomes a safety net if you want to mess it about when you got it wrong.

I only shoot RAW. The camera meters against jpeg, so exposes less than you can in RAW. RAW shooting is a safety net only for jpeg shooters. There is no exposure triangle if you are a RAW shooter, only scene luminance, shutter speed, T-stop, saturation at base ISO in highlights and exceeding the ADC input voltage above base ISO.

Nothing alters the RAW except shutter speed, T-Stop, analogue gain, digital multipliers outside the native range, and any RAW cooking the camera does (ISO affects at least the gain and maybe the pixel capacitance).

I use RAW because it’s faster, easier and gives me more control without having to mess with different settings across cameras and fiddle with wheels and buttons while shooting.

Metering is affected by jpeg settings, especially WB.

A

 

[alan scott]

I have the OM-3 and the OM-1 mark 2. As soon as I picked up my OM-3 and used the CP button I thought YES! I want this on my OM-1 as well. Just give us the option to assign CP to a button on the camera please. Surely can't be hard to do.

Oh, and while you're at it how about naming the Custom modes and Cine 1 & 2.

In other words update the OM-1 flagship with the OM-3 improvements.

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Alan Scott
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[ticket919]

I have the OM-3 and the OM-1 mark 2. As soon as I picked up my OM-3 and used the CP button I thought YES! I want this on my OM-1 as well. Just give us the option to assign CP to a button on the camera please. Surely can't be hard to do.

Oh, and while you're at it how about naming the Custom modes and Cine 1 & 2.

In other words update the OM-1 flagship with the OM-3 improvements.

Maybe they will, maybe not. The Z9 flagship never got some of the improvements later cameras got. You buy it for what it has, not what you hope it someday gets.

 

[john isaacs]

The “new” OM-5 Mark II got a new menu and CP function button. So, I wonder if OM System will be nice to OM-1 (Mark 1 and Mark II) owners and give us a firmware update with the CP function button. The OM-3 has it, so I can’t imagine it would be too difficult to add it to the OM-1 Mark II at least since they share the same hardware. It may seem trivial since you can assign each computational feature to a function button but it would be nice to have all of them in a single function button instead.

So what say you OM-1 owners, would you like to see OM System add the CP to a function button (like the OM-3 and OM-5 Mark II) via a firmware update?

And add more custom modes. If they can manage custom modes that aren’t on the mode dial, then add them. And let me name them.

And while they are at it, fix the interface for Pre MF and AF Limiter.

 

[Art_P]

Depends on your shooting style I suppose.

If you have the time to play with multiple settings, try different art filters or whatever when taking the shot, then in camera jpeg would be fine for you.

When I'm out for a walk, or chasing bugs or birds, I worry about framing and exposure and DoF and nailing focus, the art filters, tweaks, effects can wait until I get home. Many times I'm boosting contrast, darkening, even turning day to night in post.