OM-3 Mono profile examples

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I know it might be a little soon to ask, but I would love to see a series of monochrome images using the four mono profiles. I saw the DPR samples and the grain simulation is very interesting.

Maybe this can become a thread for examples.
 
I know it might be a little soon to ask, but I would love to see a series of monochrome images using the four mono profiles. I saw the DPR samples and the grain simulation is very interesting.
I've downloaded a few of DPR's OM-3 raw samples and played with them in Workspace v2.4.

In raw processing, you can set the picture mode to Monotone or to Monochrome Profile, but I didn't find four different Mono profiles as such. So, I'm not 100% confident that this is fully representative of the in-camera effects (*).

When you pick Monochrome Profile, you can add a film grain effect with a Low, Medium or High setting. The Low setting is good for 1:1 viewing and the stronger settings should be good for prints (all three are much better than the much too contrastful 'grainy film' art filters from the old days, which are also still available).

The Monotone and Monochrome picture modes look nearly identical in Workspace. To judge the grain effects in the lower three samples, the image below should be viewed at its original size. The samples in it are crops from the .ORF file and have not been resized during or after processing.

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*: As I understand it from the manual, the 4 Mono profiles are just different variations of the Monochrome picture mode, each with different sub-settings. By default, they're configured like this:

MONO1 - A standard (monochrome) preset. Each setting value is set to default (±0).
MONO2 - Creates a monochrome film-like finish.
MONO3 - Produces an infrared film-like effect.
MONO4 - Suppresses contrast for a softer look.

In the samples above, I only used the default Monochrome picture mode, with different settings (Off Low Medium High) for the film grain effect.
 
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Here's a few from today, without knowing or dabbling in the monochrome thing to much I had a bit of a look after reading your post, added some grain with the later photos, all out of camera so hope this helps, hey love the new dial though!!

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MNE wrote:

I know it might be a little soon to ask, but I would love to see a series of monochrome images using the four mono profiles. I saw the DPR samples and the grain simulation is very interesting.

Maybe this can become a thread for examples.
 
Thank you both.

I know you haven't had the OM-3 very long and there seems to be a lot of ways to tailor each mono profile.

For B&W photography, I am trying to minimize the post-processing. I am dedicating my E-M10 II for B&W and created three MySets that I intend to mimic Delta 100, HP5, and Leica Q2 Mono.

Once I do the final tweaking I will post the settings in case someone else wants to play with their non-OM-3 camera :-)

I don't like the OW grainy film profiles. Not the kind of grain I am looking for.
 
I know it might be a little soon to ask, but I would love to see a series of monochrome images using the four mono profiles. I saw the DPR samples and the grain simulation is very interesting.

Maybe this can become a thread for examples.
I can try to put something together. It’s something that’s hard to show easily because there’s so many variables, and not all of them are available when you’re doing a RAW Data Edit”. You could use that to easily show the fundamental differences between the profiles, but it doesn’t give you control over grain, color filter, etc where I feel the real “magic” is.

What kind of photos are you looking for? Portrait? Landscape? Architecture?
 
Actually shoot a lot of my kids’ sports. I had the one em 5 mk iii, and had a button set to monochrome and would usually shoot about 65-35 color to mono. Second usage would be portrait and a little landscape. Thanks
 
Actually shoot a lot of my kids’ sports. I had the one em 5 mk iii, and had a button set to monochrome and would usually shoot about 65-35 color to mono. Second usage would be portrait and a little landscape. Thanks
As someone else stated (sorry, not sure who), the "profiles" are all just variations of a set number of variables using the same "Monochrome Profile". If you open these up in OM Workspace it's pretty clear by look at the "I" on the JPEGs.
  1. Mono 1
    1. Highlight & Shadow Control - OFF
    2. Color Filter - None
    3. Shade Effect - 0
    4. Noise Grain Effect - None
  2. Mono 2
    1. Highlight & Shadow Control - Highlight +6, Shadow -6
    2. Color Filter - None
    3. Shade Effect - 0
    4. Noise Grain Effect - High
  3. Mono 3
    1. Highlight & Shadow Control - OFF
    2. Color Filter - Red +3
    3. Shade Effect - 0
    4. Noise Grain Effect - Low
  4. Mono 4
    1. Highlight & Shadow Control - Highlight +3, Shadow -3
    2. Color Filter - None
    3. Shade Effect - 0
    4. Noise Grain Effect - Low
Here's some portrait examples. I started these by restoring the profiles back to their original states, noted above. Then I've noted any changes I've made to the profile.

Mono 1 defaults
Mono 1 defaults

Mono 2 defaults
Mono 2 defaults

Mono 3 defaults
Mono 3 defaults

Mono 4 defaults
Mono 4 defaults

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Mono 2, Sh-2, Hi+2 (which I'll refer to as "slight curve" from here on out - which is more where I keep it vs the Mono 2 default Sh-6, Hi-6 which is super contrasty

Mono 2, slight curve, Yellow Filter +2
Mono 2, slight curve, Yellow Filter +2

Mono 2, slight curve, Orange Filter +2
Mono 2, slight curve, Orange Filter +2

Mono 2, slight curve, Red Filter +2
Mono 2, slight curve, Red Filter +2

Mono 2, slight curve, Blue Filter +2
Mono 2, slight curve, Blue Filter +2

Mono 2, slight curve, Green Filter +2
Mono 2, slight curve, Green Filter +2

Mono 2, slight curve, Film Grain Off
Mono 2, slight curve, Film Grain Off

Mono 2, slight curve, Film Grain Low
Mono 2, slight curve, Film Grain Low

Mono 2, slight curve, Film Grain Med
Mono 2, slight curve, Film Grain Med

Mono 2, slight curve, Film Grain High
Mono 2, slight curve, Film Grain High

Hope this helps!

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Sam Bennett
Instagram: @swiftbennett
 

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I know it might be a little soon to ask, but I would love to see a series of monochrome images using the four mono profiles. I saw the DPR samples and the grain simulation is very interesting.
I've downloaded a few of DPR's OM-3 raw samples and played with them in Workspace v2.4.

In raw processing, you can set the picture mode to Monotone or to Monochrome Profile, but I didn't find four different Mono profiles as such. So, I'm not 100% confident that this is fully representative of the in-camera effects (*).

When you pick Monochrome Profile, you can add a film grain effect with a Low, Medium or High setting. The Low setting is good for 1:1 viewing and the stronger settings should be good for prints (all three are much better than the much too contrastful 'grainy film' art filters from the old days, which are also still available).

The Monotone and Monochrome picture modes look nearly identical in Workspace. To judge the grain effects in the lower three samples, the image below should be viewed at its original size. The samples in it are crops from the .ORF file and have not been resized during or after processing.

2753baba82594e85bb9f0de15208bb04.jpg

*: As I understand it from the manual, the 4 Mono profiles are just different variations of the Monochrome picture mode, each with different sub-settings. By default, they're configured like this:

MONO1 - A standard (monochrome) preset. Each setting value is set to default (±0).
MONO2 - Creates a monochrome film-like finish.
MONO3 - Produces an infrared film-like effect.
MONO4 - Suppresses contrast for a softer look.

In the samples above, I only used the default Monochrome picture mode, with different settings (Off Low Medium High) for the film grain effect.
So, the interesting thing here is that while this is true, if someone’s hopeful they can produce the same Profiles on the OM-1 Mark II through manipulating the in-camera profiles, you really can’t. This is because the OM-3 has a bit more flexibility available…

OM-1
  1. Color Filter - Only Yellow, Orange, Red or Green. Can adjust the color filter applied, but not the strength.
  2. Shadow & Highlight Control - Four presets for Auto, Normal, High Key and Low Key
  3. Shading Effect (vignetting) - Unavailable
  4. Film Grain Effect - Unavailable
OM-3
  1. Color Filter - Yellow, Orange, Red, Magenta, Blue, Cyan, Green and Yellow/Green. Adjustable from 1-3.
  2. Shadow & Highlight Control - Full Shadow, Mid and Highlight control (as used elsewhere on the camera)
  3. Shading Effect (vignetting) - Three levels to shade or over expose
  4. Film Grain Effect - Three levels
So, ironically - the OM-3 has the more flexible system here if in-camera processing is your bag. Personally, I’m used to doing this processing in SnapSeed, so it’s not a big deal to me.
--
Sam Bennett
Instagram: @swiftbennett
 
Am I missing something? When using mono on dial, I can’t see pic in b/w while looking through viewfinder (like omd em5.3 assigned to button). Is this not possible?
You should, but there’s some modes (like focus stacking) where the Creative Mode dial doesn’t work.
 
I know it might be a little soon to ask, but I would love to see a series of monochrome images using the four mono profiles. I saw the DPR samples and the grain simulation is very interesting.
I've downloaded a few of DPR's OM-3 raw samples and played with them in Workspace v2.4.

In raw processing, you can set the picture mode to Monotone or to Monochrome Profile, but I didn't find four different Mono profiles as such. So, I'm not 100% confident that this is fully representative of the in-camera effects (*).

When you pick Monochrome Profile, you can add a film grain effect with a Low, Medium or High setting. The Low setting is good for 1:1 viewing and the stronger settings should be good for prints (all three are much better than the much too contrastful 'grainy film' art filters from the old days, which are also still available).

The Monotone and Monochrome picture modes look nearly identical in Workspace. To judge the grain effects in the lower three samples, the image below should be viewed at its original size. The samples in it are crops from the .ORF file and have not been resized during or after processing.

2753baba82594e85bb9f0de15208bb04.jpg

*: As I understand it from the manual, the 4 Mono profiles are just different variations of the Monochrome picture mode, each with different sub-settings. By default, they're configured like this:

MONO1 - A standard (monochrome) preset. Each setting value is set to default (±0).
MONO2 - Creates a monochrome film-like finish.
MONO3 - Produces an infrared film-like effect.
MONO4 - Suppresses contrast for a softer look.

In the samples above, I only used the default Monochrome picture mode, with different settings (Off Low Medium High) for the film grain effect.
So, the interesting thing here is that while this is true, if someone’s hopeful they can produce the same Profiles on the OM-1 Mark II through manipulating the in-camera profiles, you really can’t. This is because the OM-3 has a bit more flexibility available…

OM-1
  1. Color Filter - Only Yellow, Orange, Red or Green. Can adjust the color filter applied, but not the strength.
  2. Shadow & Highlight Control - Four presets for Auto, Normal, High Key and Low Key
  3. Shading Effect (vignetting) - Unavailable
  4. Film Grain Effect - Unavailable
OM-3
  1. Color Filter - Yellow, Orange, Red, Magenta, Blue, Cyan, Green and Yellow/Green. Adjustable from 1-3.
  2. Shadow & Highlight Control - Full Shadow, Mid and Highlight control (as used elsewhere on the camera)
  3. Shading Effect (vignetting) - Three levels to shade or over expose
  4. Film Grain Effect - Three levels
So, ironically - the OM-3 has the more flexible system here if in-camera processing is your bag. Personally, I’m used to doing this processing in SnapSeed, so it’s not a big deal to me.
--
Sam Bennett
Instagram: @swiftbennett
Snapseed rocks! :)

--
Photography is poetry made visible; it is the art of painting with light!
 
Am I missing something? When using mono on dial, I can’t see pic in b/w while looking through viewfinder (like omd em5.3 assigned to button). Is this not possible?
You should, but there’s some modes (like focus stacking) where the Creative Mode dial doesn’t work.
Won’t work in the HDR modes either.
 
Actually shoot a lot of my kids’ sports. I had the one em 5 mk iii, and had a button set to monochrome and would usually shoot about 65-35 color to mono. Second usage would be portrait and a little landscape. Thanks
As someone else stated (sorry, not sure who), the "profiles" are all just variations of a set number of variables using the same "Monochrome Profile". If you open these up in OM Workspace it's pretty clear by look at the "I" on the JPEGs.
  1. Mono 1
    1. Highlight & Shadow Control - OFF
    2. Color Filter - None
    3. Shade Effect - 0
    4. Noise Grain Effect - None
  2. Mono 2
    1. Highlight & Shadow Control - Highlight +6, Shadow -6
    2. Color Filter - None
    3. Shade Effect - 0
    4. Noise Grain Effect - High
  3. Mono 3
    1. Highlight & Shadow Control - OFF
    2. Color Filter - Red +3
    3. Shade Effect - 0
    4. Noise Grain Effect - Low
  4. Mono 4
    1. Highlight & Shadow Control - Highlight +3, Shadow -3
    2. Color Filter - None
    3. Shade Effect - 0
    4. Noise Grain Effect - Low
After poking around the other night, it looks like the Color Profiles work the same way. They're all based on the Color Vivid processing, with control over certain settings. Unfortunately it doesn't have the Noise Grain Effect.
 

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