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NX3000, better processing or lack of AA filter?

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you either have to adjust red saturation in post-processing if you want to change intensity of color or adjust red lumination to change brightness of color. older NX looks more muted than newer NX.
 
If you are that serious about color, I would for starters profile your camera with a fixed lighting setup that you use for product photos. Some applications, like Lightroom, allow for the profile to be incorporated in the work flow.
 
nster said:
should I be returning my unopened NX300 for an NX3000? lol

I'm not sure what to make of this result really
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Heh, my thoughts similarly (although I don't know if NX3000 would be enough for me). But even looking at NX2000 sample photographs, those, along with NX3000, look cleaner than NX300's too on ephotozine. I can't decide if it's the in-camera processing or the sensor difference. I'm actually expecting an NX300M, not NX300, and I only find one source--an Amazon review--that says NX300M uses a slightly larger sensor than NX300; something they call "APMOS". I call "BS", seeing as dimension are listed being the same on Samsung's own site.
 
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jennyrae said:
you either have to adjust red saturation in post-processing if you want to change intensity of color or adjust red lumination to change brightness of color. older NX looks more muted than newer NX.
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Thanks!

I did notice when comparing the sample images of the NX1000 and the NX3000 that the hue seems to be the same; it's just the brightness that is different. That would seem to indicate that they haven't mucked around too much with the color accuracy of the JPG engine, which is a good thing. Of course, Imaging Resource will eventually do tests on the NX3000, and then we'll know.
 
Gesture said:
If you are that serious about color, I would for starters profile your camera with a fixed lighting setup that you use for product photos. Some applications, like Lightroom, allow for the profile to be incorporated in the work flow.
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Good point. However, shortness of funds has kept me from buying a lighting setup or a calibration kit for my monitor. I simply figure that if I'm starting out with a camera that has accurate colors, that will help keep the colors accurate overall. Truthfully, I have my monitor looking the way which I think is probably accurate, and I want a better camera so I won't have to keep tweaking the colors in my photo-editing program.
 
OrdinarilyInordinate said:
No, they used the 60mm prime for their comparison photos, you can see it in the EXIF. So same lens across all test samples on NX30, NX300, and NX3000 at imaging resource.
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Oh, I didn't notice which lens they used. Well, I'll probably get the 60mm prime eventually, so I'll be able to get those sharp images also.

I must say, it's so surprising for me to be hanging out on the Samsung forum now. The images from Samsung cameras (that I have seen) are as good as what I see from Canon, Nikon, Sony, etc. I have looked and looked for the perfect camera for me, and I never thought it would be a Samsung.
 
due to different lens used in website, pictures are difficult to assess quality.
 
jennyrae said:
due to different lens used in website, pictures are difficult to assess quality.
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You can ignore sharpness and to some extent colors, but you can still tell noise grain and smoothing, regardless of lenses.
 
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OrdinarilyInordinate said:
Found yet another site with comparison photos for various Samsung cameras and competition. Pretty useful :)

http://www.dkamera.de/testbericht/samsung-nx3000/bildqualitaet.html

Kind of a wash between NX30, NX300, and NX3000 there.
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It's very impressive how sharp the Samsung images are.
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Unlike the Imaging Resource site, that German site shows the pictures from the NX1000 to be just as sharp as the pictures from the NX3000, so I think I'll go ahead and buy an NX1000 to save a little money. Otherwise I'll have to wait for a year for the price of the NX3000 to drop a little, and I don't want to wait.
 
The 16-50 kit lens is probably the sharpest kit lens available.
 
I think you're mostly paying for features when choosing between these camera models. I like the ability to have touch focus, flipping screen, and general faster operation (almost makes up for the missing EVF), so 300M was for me instead of NX3000, which was going to cost about the same and have fewer features (but more compact and with the latest zoom lens). If you think NX1100 or NX2000 will suit your needs fine--by all means, they are still good cameras. NX2000 was on a $200 sale not too long ago, which was excellent and hard to beat. My NX300M cost me $450 with 18-55mm OIS III kit lens: that's over 2x as much.
 
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I think you're mostly paying for features when choosing between these camera models. I like the ability to have touch focus, flipping screen, and general faster operation (almost makes up for the missing EVF), so 300M was for me instead of NX3000, which was going to cost about the same and have fewer features (but more compact and with the latest zoom lens). If you think NX1100 or NX2000 will suit your needs fine--by all means, they are still good cameras. NX2000 was on a $200 sale not too long ago, which was excellent and hard to beat. My NX300M cost me $450 with 18-55mm OIS III kit lens: that's over 2x as much.
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Well, as I've said, I'm interested in the excellent color accuracy that Imaging Resource found in the NX1000, and that's why I'm interested in the NX3000 (being essentially the same as the NX1000 with some new features). But I am beginning to realize that probably all of Samsung's NX cameras have the same color accuracy, so perhaps I should just select the one that has the exact features I want. One thing I can tell you is that I have no need for an LCD that flips up for selfies (being old and butt ugly). As for the NX2000, I hate touch screens.

I would have ordered the NX1100 today but the Amazon supplier that is selling it has a restocking fee. I called them four times to ask them about it, but they never answered or called back.
 
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jennyrae said:
why not nx300 or nx300m?
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Those cameras have a touch screen, which I don't want, and they are more expensive than the NX1100. Also, the NX1000 was the camera that Imaging Resource said has the good color reproduction, and I couldn't be sure that was true of the NX300.

I just ordered the NX1100, and it was $290 including shipping. I'm a little concerned because the supplier doesn't answer its phone or return calls (despite the fact that an RMA number is required to return a product, and you have to call to get one). They also charge a restocking fee. However, I doubt that I'll want to return the camera (I certainly hope not).

The Imaging Resource site said that close-up macro shots are a little soft, but the macro shots that I take are not that close up (about a foot away), so hopefully I won't have that problem. I could always buy another lens, but the lenses are as expensive as the camera.
 
personally, I like Color better on the NX300 because it is improved and more consistent. I had NX200 which is same sensor used on NX1000 and NX1100. also, you can disable touchscreen function and just used physical buttons for control. if you look enough, you see good deal for NX300 selling around same price as that of NX1000. but anyway, it is still your choice. I just mention what NX300 can offer.
 
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