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New firmware for S1
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MaxinAus
Leading Member
I did extensive testing before and after the upgrade and honestly see NO difference. I never could understand the complaints about freezing because I never had that problem. My firmware was version 1.0.0.0 and is now 1.0.1.0 and I have no black dot inside the card door. I can only presume Canon made changes to the original firmware without changing the version number ? It's a mystery to me. The camera continues to render great shots and it's a joy to use.
Regards,
Max ...
Regards,
Max ...
dpassmore
Active member
I think this may be an example,you tell me.
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Tom F>
Leading Member
Edgaress
Well-known member
cross the meadow in front of you.
Before, when you focused on the horse (ie the deadly green rectangle of doom appeared), the scene froze ie the horse was stationary. You then pushed the button, then released the button...voila, the horse is gone....if he had been posted at decent odds, anyhow.
Now, with the upgrade, same horse, when the focus locks (ie the deadly green rectangle of doom appears), the horse continues to gallop across the meadow in your viewfinder. The focus and exposure is still locked on the original reading when the deadly green rectangle of doom had appeared, but you can shoot at any time by following the action.
Big help.
Stan alias EdgarEss the Handicapper
I asked Mom if I was a gifted child...she said they certainly wouldn't have paid for me.
Before, when you focused on the horse (ie the deadly green rectangle of doom appeared), the scene froze ie the horse was stationary. You then pushed the button, then released the button...voila, the horse is gone....if he had been posted at decent odds, anyhow.
Now, with the upgrade, same horse, when the focus locks (ie the deadly green rectangle of doom appears), the horse continues to gallop across the meadow in your viewfinder. The focus and exposure is still locked on the original reading when the deadly green rectangle of doom had appeared, but you can shoot at any time by following the action.
Big help.
Stan alias EdgarEss the Handicapper
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I asked Mom if I was a gifted child...she said they certainly wouldn't have paid for me.
MaxinAus
Leading Member
Hi Stan,
I understand what you are saying but I never had that problem. I shoot sports and wildlife and never had that freeze you talk about. Why do you call it the green rectangle of doom ? Green shows you the focus is set.
Edgaress
Well-known member
Hi, MaxinAus
Maybe you were a black dot exception and never did have "The Freeze"? Many of us experienced the deadly green rectangle of doom freeze. The view froze at the green rectangle episode until the shutter was pressed.
Maybe it was more prevalent up here, where the four seasons are cold, cold, cold, and damned cold. Got this from a friend in Perth who said his four were hot, hot, hot, and damned hot!!
Cheers,
StaninCan alias EdgarEss
Maybe you were a black dot exception and never did have "The Freeze"? Many of us experienced the deadly green rectangle of doom freeze. The view froze at the green rectangle episode until the shutter was pressed.
Maybe it was more prevalent up here, where the four seasons are cold, cold, cold, and damned cold. Got this from a friend in Perth who said his four were hot, hot, hot, and damned hot!!
Cheers,
StaninCan alias EdgarEss
I asked Mom if I was a gifted child...she said they certainly wouldn't have paid for me.
Lisa Horton
Leading Member
I did it today, and indeed, it fixes the display freeze problem. Haven't had a chance to check the overexposure problem.
I just downloaded the file to a CF card, put that in the camera, and did the upgrade. Worked like a charm.
Lisa
I just downloaded the file to a CF card, put that in the camera, and did the upgrade. Worked like a charm.
Lisa
Edgaress
Well-known member
Hi, Lisa
Ditto me - see earlier message.
Forgot to mention - someone in this thread felt that the upgrade changed the zoom response ie made it easier to control?
Not for me. No difference. Placebo efffect?
Stan
I asked Mom if I was a gifted child...she said they certainly wouldn't have paid for me.
Ditto me - see earlier message.
Forgot to mention - someone in this thread felt that the upgrade changed the zoom response ie made it easier to control?
Not for me. No difference. Placebo efffect?
Stan
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I asked Mom if I was a gifted child...she said they certainly wouldn't have paid for me.
In response to the earlier query, you don't need to install the ZoomBrowser or any of the software that came in the camera kit. The download includes software for transferring the software to the card while the card is in the camera.
The firmware uploader also verifies the FW version on your camera, and the one you're about to install, prior to taking any action, and so can be used to verify that it was installed successfully.
In general I like the focusing better. I hadn't used continuous focusing for a long time due to the freeze, and also the increased delays experienced. This seems much better.
On the whole--subjectively--it appears to have a better time getting lock in low light. It's impossible to duplicate the conditions without having tried this before the update. Perhaps someone else can do some comparisons.
That was simple and I'm pleased!
Finally, the upgrade took longer than I would have expected. It does finish if you're the anxious type. (The green on button flashes while it's writing, if that's a comfort to you ;-)
Jeff
The firmware uploader also verifies the FW version on your camera, and the one you're about to install, prior to taking any action, and so can be used to verify that it was installed successfully.
In general I like the focusing better. I hadn't used continuous focusing for a long time due to the freeze, and also the increased delays experienced. This seems much better.
On the whole--subjectively--it appears to have a better time getting lock in low light. It's impossible to duplicate the conditions without having tried this before the update. Perhaps someone else can do some comparisons.
That was simple and I'm pleased!
Finally, the upgrade took longer than I would have expected. It does finish if you're the anxious type. (The green on button flashes while it's writing, if that's a comfort to you ;-)
Jeff
Folks,
My quick take on the new firmware:
1. I've never installed any of the Canon software -- I use a firewire card reader.
2. I managed to keep it that way -- I just copied the fimware files onto the root directory of my card, and the S1 saw them and gave me the menu item to upgrade the firmware.
3. Worked like a charm.
4. The "continuous mode focus" issue is much improved. Remember my "vintage auto races" pictures? I'd focus on that corner, and wait for the cars to come through. Well, if I tried to focus while a car was in the corner, the S1 would "freeze" on the car, which would quickly speed out of my focus range, and so it would have big trouble focusing. Well, now with this upgrade, I focused on a few cars driving by, and it just keeps the image moving, and it focuses much better. A wonderful improvement!
5. My impression of the "overexposure" fix is that it's only if you're using the "flash synchronization" feature. I've never used it, so I can't tell you anything about that.
6. Oh boy, you betcha, it does seem that the zoom works better now. It seems that you can push quite a bit more and still stay in "slow" mode, and there's more of a distinct change to the "fast" mode when you get there. I sure notice a lot better control over the thing.
7. As Martha would say from her cell, "it's a good thing!"
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Tom Hoots
My PBase galleries:
http://www.pbase.com/thoots
My quick take on the new firmware:
1. I've never installed any of the Canon software -- I use a firewire card reader.
2. I managed to keep it that way -- I just copied the fimware files onto the root directory of my card, and the S1 saw them and gave me the menu item to upgrade the firmware.
3. Worked like a charm.
4. The "continuous mode focus" issue is much improved. Remember my "vintage auto races" pictures? I'd focus on that corner, and wait for the cars to come through. Well, if I tried to focus while a car was in the corner, the S1 would "freeze" on the car, which would quickly speed out of my focus range, and so it would have big trouble focusing. Well, now with this upgrade, I focused on a few cars driving by, and it just keeps the image moving, and it focuses much better. A wonderful improvement!
5. My impression of the "overexposure" fix is that it's only if you're using the "flash synchronization" feature. I've never used it, so I can't tell you anything about that.
6. Oh boy, you betcha, it does seem that the zoom works better now. It seems that you can push quite a bit more and still stay in "slow" mode, and there's more of a distinct change to the "fast" mode when you get there. I sure notice a lot better control over the thing.
7. As Martha would say from her cell, "it's a good thing!"
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Tom Hoots
My PBase galleries:
http://www.pbase.com/thoots
Anson
Well-known member
am i right?
Have just updated my camera, but I will not agree with statement above. When green retangle appeared, my camera only frooze for about a half second. Now, it never freeze.
See you!
Johnny
Tomek Porosinski
Member
I don't know if I understand you fully but it seems that when you half-press the shutter button (with old firmware), everything freezes on the LCD. Am I right?
Even my good old A60 lets me change the composition/pan with a half-pressed shutter button. It seems that this firmware update resolves the freeze problem only in continuous auto-focus mode - what about a single focus mode (which I would prefer because of battery life)?
Regards,
Tomek
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itsybitsyspidy
Well-known member
no kidding, the shutter really dusent lag anymore. don't know about those who don't find this a problem, but i personally find it very nice of canon to solve this problem. now i can take my favourite shots even when my objects move about!
no problems installing it, just follow instructions. simple and easy. i'm wondering whether anyone had a flat battery while updating the firmware.... haha that would be interesting see. i wonder what would happen to his S1 then?
Noobishly Amaturish
no problems installing it, just follow instructions. simple and easy. i'm wondering whether anyone had a flat battery while updating the firmware.... haha that would be interesting see. i wonder what would happen to his S1 then?
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Noobishly Amaturish
thw
Veteran Member
I think this behavior can change depending on when the camera is made. I tried an S1 camera in Future Shop here in Toronto and the screen freeze is downright terrible. But when I tried (and eventually bought) the camera from another shop, the problem is not so obvious. So, there...
I guess it depends on your definiton of "a lot". Obviously it saves some power. But I spent 6 hours at an airshow and shot over 300 on one set of batteries. And I had turned off the every power saving feature I could because every time the camera went into sleep mode and then resumed, it would default back to auto focus, which I didn't want.
So I think that continuous focus mode is useful enough and the battery life is still good enough that it is a non-issue for me.
itsybitsyspidy
Well-known member
Dave Hanson
Forum Enthusiast
Very smooth update, no hitches.
Nice improvements. The lack of freezing during focus makes it much easier to follow moving subjects. I had not experienced the outdoor flash-balance problem, but it's nice to know it's been fixed for when it comes time to use it. The zoom response seems about the same (very sensitive), so I can't say there's any improvement there.
I contacted Canon about the Custom mode "forgetting" it's in manual focus when coming out of power save. It'll be interesting to see if they address this in the next firmware update.
Dave
Nice improvements. The lack of freezing during focus makes it much easier to follow moving subjects. I had not experienced the outdoor flash-balance problem, but it's nice to know it's been fixed for when it comes time to use it. The zoom response seems about the same (very sensitive), so I can't say there's any improvement there.
I contacted Canon about the Custom mode "forgetting" it's in manual focus when coming out of power save. It'll be interesting to see if they address this in the next firmware update.
Dave
Edgaress
Well-known member
Ditto, yeah, for the price of a couple of sets of NiMH rechargeables, I prefer keeping the little beast awake - and many times leaving continuous focus on. Naturally this doesn't apply if I'm at an affair with only occasional shooting.
Presume that Canon will pay heed some day and add a choice for saving all prior settings on re-awakening. But, probably a non-issue for 95% of their customer.
Stan alias Stitch
I asked Mom if I was a gifted child...she said they certainly wouldn't have paid for me.
Presume that Canon will pay heed some day and add a choice for saving all prior settings on re-awakening. But, probably a non-issue for 95% of their customer.
Stan alias Stitch
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I asked Mom if I was a gifted child...she said they certainly wouldn't have paid for me.
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