Need an adapter for installation of graphics card?

[Flycaster]

I have a HP TE01-1020 that recently had a SSD added as my F-drive in addition to the existing C-drive. Now I want to add a graphics card to increase processing speed as the present integrate Intel UHD 630 is too slow. The card I've settled on is the Gigabyte RTX 4060 Low Profile. Initially, I thought that its installation would be easy: Place in its slot and hook up to the 8-pin. However, after seeing this video (https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...triple-fan-dual-slot-329-new-product.2614629/) at 4:72 and the need to use adapters because of the SSD, I am now wondering if this will be necessary for my installation?

 

[BobKnDP]

I have a HP TE01-1020 that recently had a SSD added as my F-drive in addition to the existing C-drive. Now I want to add a graphics card to increase processing speed as the present integrate Intel UHD 630 is too slow. The card I've settled on is the Gigabyte RTX 4060 Low Profile. Initially, I thought that its installation would be easy: Place in its slot and hook up to the 8-pin. However, after seeing this video (https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...triple-fan-dual-slot-329-new-product.2614629/) at 4:72 and the need to use adapters because of the SSD, I am now wondering if this will be necessary for my installation?

The SFF (small form factor) system in your link required two adapters because it had no PCI-E power cable. One adapter took power from two SATA connectors into one 8 pin PCI-E plug. However, the SFF box's PSU didn't have enough SATA power connectors, so they used a splitter off one of the SATA power connectors. I think the word is "kludge". I doubt that the PSU in the SFF box was really adequate to add even a moderate power card like the 4060. There also was precious little space in that case for airflow.

Your TE01-1020 appears to be a regular desktop PC, not SFF. Is that correct?

When you added the SSD, did you make a note of the available cables off the PSU? I haven't found a list of what it has. It appears to be a proprietary unit. It may have a single 6 pin PCI-E connector. If that's all you have, you may need to get a 6 to 8 pin adapter . (There may be a better choice; this is just an example.) That should be OK for a card that draws less than 150W. (The 4060 draws 115W.)

Do you need a low profile graphics card? You could save a few dollars with a full height card, if it'll fit.

 

[Flycaster]

I have a HP TE01-1020 that recently had a SSD added as my F-drive in addition to the existing C-drive. Now I want to add a graphics card to increase processing speed as the present integrate Intel UHD 630 is too slow. The card I've settled on is the Gigabyte RTX 4060 Low Profile. Initially, I thought that its installation would be easy: Place in its slot and hook up to the 8-pin. However, after seeing this video (https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...triple-fan-dual-slot-329-new-product.2614629/) at 4:72 and the need to use adapters because of the SSD, I am now wondering if this will be necessary for my installation?

The SFF (small form factor) system in your link required two adapters because it had no PCI-E power cable. One adapter took power from two SATA connectors into one 8 pin PCI-E plug. However, the SFF box's PSU didn't have enough SATA power connectors, so they used a splitter off one of the SATA power connectors. I think the word is "kludge". I doubt that the PSU in the SFF box was really adequate to add even a moderate power card like the 4060. There also was precious little space in that case for airflow.

Your TE01-1020 appears to be a regular desktop PC, not SFF. Is that correct?

When you added the SSD, did you make a note of the available cables off the PSU? I haven't found a list of what it has. It appears to be a proprietary unit. It may have a single 6 pin PCI-E connector. If that's all you have, you may need to get a 6 to 8 pin adapter . (There may be a better choice; this is just an example.) That should be OK for a card that draws less than 150W. (The 4060 draws 115W.)

Do you need a low profile graphics card? You could save a few dollars with a full height card, if it'll fit.

The TE01-1020 is a regular desktop. The PSU does have a 6+2 pin cable, which I understand will easily accommodate the card's 8 pin. Due to my nativity, I'm not sure whether or not this cable or a different cable was used when the SSD was installed. Bottom line is, I want to know if the PSU's 6+2 cable is available for the new card with the SSD installed?

BTW, thanks for referencing size and cost. I don't mind spending a few extra bucks when I can be assured of fit and low power draw (my PSU is 400W.)

 

[olavsu1]

It not need a adapter, but it will need better PSU that has the appropriate power connectors for this graphics card.

Bottom line is, I want to know if the PSU's 6+2 cable is available for the new card after the SSD was installed?

you can find it out when you unscrew the lid of the computer box

 

[Flycaster]

It not need a adapter, but it will need better PSU that has the appropriate power connectors for this graphics card.

"not need a adapter," good news, thanks. I know a high watt PSU would be ideal, but I figure that the PC's 400W PSU should be adequate to handle the card as long as my editing doesn't get too intensive.

 

[olavsu1]

It not need a adapter, but it will need better PSU that has the appropriate power connectors for this graphics card.

"not need a adapter," good news, thanks. I know a high watt PSU would be ideal, but I figure that the PC's 400W PSU should be adequate to handle the card as long as my editing doesn't get too intensive.

to choose optimal PSU, you need know what stuff you have

you enter the data into the calculator and it makes recommendations.

PSU Calculator | Cooler Master

Accurately determine your power supply needs for your PC build. Easy to use, reliable results. Optimize your system's performance today!

www.coolermaster.com

 

[Flycaster]

It not need a adapter, but it will need better PSU that has the appropriate power connectors for this graphics card.

"not need a adapter," good news, thanks. I know a high watt PSU would be ideal, but I figure that the PC's 400W PSU should be adequate to handle the card as long as my editing doesn't get too intensive.

to choose optimal PSU, you need know what stuff you have

you enter the data into the calculator and it makes recommendations.

https://www.coolermaster.com/power-supply-calculator/

Can't do the calculations. I'm willing to take the chance that I don't cook the PC. However, if I do come close (do have a core monitor), I guess I'll just have to get a higher watt PSU.

 

[BobKnDP]

I have a HP TE01-1020 that recently had a SSD added as my F-drive in addition to the existing C-drive. Now I want to add a graphics card to increase processing speed as the present integrate Intel UHD 630 is too slow. The card I've settled on is the Gigabyte RTX 4060 Low Profile. Initially, I thought that its installation would be easy: Place in its slot and hook up to the 8-pin. However, after seeing this video (https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...triple-fan-dual-slot-329-new-product.2614629/) at 4:72 and the need to use adapters because of the SSD, I am now wondering if this will be necessary for my installation?

The SFF (small form factor) system in your link required two adapters because it had no PCI-E power cable. One adapter took power from two SATA connectors into one 8 pin PCI-E plug. However, the SFF box's PSU didn't have enough SATA power connectors, so they used a splitter off one of the SATA power connectors. I think the word is "kludge". I doubt that the PSU in the SFF box was really adequate to add even a moderate power card like the 4060. There also was precious little space in that case for airflow.

Your TE01-1020 appears to be a regular desktop PC, not SFF. Is that correct?

When you added the SSD, did you make a note of the available cables off the PSU? I haven't found a list of what it has. It appears to be a proprietary unit. It may have a single 6 pin PCI-E connector. If that's all you have, you may need to get a 6 to 8 pin adapter . (There may be a better choice; this is just an example.) That should be OK for a card that draws less than 150W. (The 4060 draws 115W.)

Do you need a low profile graphics card? You could save a few dollars with a full height card, if it'll fit.

The TE01-1020 is a regular desktop. The PSU does have a 6+2 pin cable, which I understand will easily accommodate the card's 8 pin. Due to my nativity, I'm not sure whether or not this cable or a different cable was used when the SSD was installed. Bottom line is, I want to know if the PSU's 6+2 cable is available for the new card with the SSD installed?

BTW, thanks for referencing size and cost. I don't mind spending a few extra bucks when I can be assured of fit and low power draw (my PSU is 400W.)

The SSD uses a SATA power connector, so your 6+2 pin PCI-E cable is free.

(The machine also takes an M.2 SSD. I suppose that you didn't upgrade that. Whether you did or not, it doesn't use any cabling. It gets all its power from the slot.)

I believe that the Gigabyte low profile 4060 uses the same amount of power as more standard 4060s, so there is little reason to use as you don't need a low-profile card.

If you wish to be cautious, buy the card from a source with a generous return policy. I'd bet that you have nothing to worry about, though. Go for it.

 

[BobKnDP]

It not need a adapter, but it will need better PSU that has the appropriate power connectors for this graphics card.

"not need a adapter," good news, thanks. I know a high watt PSU would be ideal, but I figure that the PC's 400W PSU should be adequate to handle the card as long as my editing doesn't get too intensive.

to choose optimal PSU, you need know what stuff you have

you enter the data into the calculator and it makes recommendations.

https://www.coolermaster.com/power-supply-calculator/

Can't do the calculations. I'm willing to take the chance that I don't cook the PC. However, if I do come close (do have a core monitor), I guess I'll just have to get a higher watt PSU.

The i7-10700 is a 65W CPU. The RTX 4060 is a 115W GPY.

That's 180W between them. A 400W PSU that isn't really terrible should have lots of margin.

The Coolermaster calculator predicts that you need about 300W.

You don't need a higher wattage PSU. Which is as well, because the HP doesn't use a standard ATX PSU.

 

[Flycaster]

It not need a adapter, but it will need better PSU that has the appropriate power connectors for this graphics card.

"not need a adapter," good news, thanks. I know a high watt PSU would be ideal, but I figure that the PC's 400W PSU should be adequate to handle the card as long as my editing doesn't get too intensive.

to choose optimal PSU, you need know what stuff you have

you enter the data into the calculator and it makes recommendations.

https://www.coolermaster.com/power-supply-calculator/

Can't do the calculations. I'm willing to take the chance that I don't cook the PC. However, if I do come close (do have a core monitor), I guess I'll just have to get a higher watt PSU.

The i7-10700 is a 65W CPU. The RTX 4060 is a 115W GPY.

That's 180W between them. A 400W PSU that isn't really terrible should have lots of margin.

The Coolermaster calculator predicts that you need about 300W.

You don't need a higher wattage PSU. Which is as well, because the HP doesn't use a standard ATX PSU.

Hey Bob, I do appreciate all the work you put into educating me about how everything appears to be related to the power supply. And, most importantly, you've considerably reduced my anxieties about getting this GPU upgrade right (ie, I won't be cooking my PC.) All good news to learn that my PC will handle a 115W GPU. As for the actual card I'll be getting, the Gigabyte LP 4060 was recommended from a reputable response on the HP community forum. The responder felt that the card will surely fit as my PC won't be able to handle a card longer than 10.4" (264mm)...many of the cards are 11", and it's small size will allow for better air circulation.

 

[BobKnDP]

It not need a adapter, but it will need better PSU that has the appropriate power connectors for this graphics card.

"not need a adapter," good news, thanks. I know a high watt PSU would be ideal, but I figure that the PC's 400W PSU should be adequate to handle the card as long as my editing doesn't get too intensive.

to choose optimal PSU, you need know what stuff you have

you enter the data into the calculator and it makes recommendations.

https://www.coolermaster.com/power-supply-calculator/

Can't do the calculations. I'm willing to take the chance that I don't cook the PC. However, if I do come close (do have a core monitor), I guess I'll just have to get a higher watt PSU.

The i7-10700 is a 65W CPU. The RTX 4060 is a 115W GPY.

That's 180W between them. A 400W PSU that isn't really terrible should have lots of margin.

The Coolermaster calculator predicts that you need about 300W.

You don't need a higher wattage PSU. Which is as well, because the HP doesn't use a standard ATX PSU.

Hey Bob, I do appreciate all the work you put into educating me about how everything appears to be related to the power supply. And, most importantly, you've considerably reduced my anxieties about getting this GPU upgrade right (ie, I won't be cooking my PC.) All good news to learn that my PC will handle a 115W GPU. As for the actual card I'll be getting, the Gigabyte LP 4060 was recommended from a reputable response on the HP community forum. The responder felt that the card will surely fit as my PC won't be able to handle a card longer than 10.4" (264mm)...many of the cards are 11", and it's small size will allow for better air circulation.

I didn't realize that the card was so short: 182mm (7.2"). There are a number of 2 fan full-height cards that are pretty short, too. Example: MSI GeForce RTX™ 4060 VENTUS 2X BLACK 8G OC, 199mm (7.8").

Maybe the 3 tiny fans on the low-profile card are adequate.

It seems to come with both half and full height faceplates, so it'd fit in a regular (not SFF) case with the full height one.

A minor detail: for nVidia desktop graphics cards, I recommend downloading drivers directly from nVidia. That'd give you the latest. I believe that third party card makers don't customize drivers for desktop cards. (The story may be different for laptops.)

Please let us know how it works out for you. Should be an easy upgrade.

 

[Flycaster]

It not need a adapter, but it will need better PSU that has the appropriate power connectors for this graphics card.

"not need a adapter," good news, thanks. I know a high watt PSU would be ideal, but I figure that the PC's 400W PSU should be adequate to handle the card as long as my editing doesn't get too intensive.

to choose optimal PSU, you need know what stuff you have

you enter the data into the calculator and it makes recommendations.

https://www.coolermaster.com/power-supply-calculator/

Can't do the calculations. I'm willing to take the chance that I don't cook the PC. However, if I do come close (do have a core monitor), I guess I'll just have to get a higher watt PSU.

The i7-10700 is a 65W CPU. The RTX 4060 is a 115W GPY.

That's 180W between them. A 400W PSU that isn't really terrible should have lots of margin.

The Coolermaster calculator predicts that you need about 300W.

You don't need a higher wattage PSU. Which is as well, because the HP doesn't use a standard ATX PSU.

Hey Bob, I do appreciate all the work you put into educating me about how everything appears to be related to the power supply. And, most importantly, you've considerably reduced my anxieties about getting this GPU upgrade right (ie, I won't be cooking my PC.) All good news to learn that my PC will handle a 115W GPU. As for the actual card I'll be getting, the Gigabyte LP 4060 was recommended from a reputable response on the HP community forum. The responder felt that the card will surely fit as my PC won't be able to handle a card longer than 10.4" (264mm)...many of the cards are 11", and it's small size will allow for better air circulation.

I didn't realize that the card was so short: 182mm (7.2"). There are a number of 2 fan full-height cards that are pretty short, too. Example: MSI GeForce RTX™ 4060 VENTUS 2X BLACK 8G OC, 199mm (7.8").

Maybe the 3 tiny fans on the low-profile card are adequate.

It seems to come with both half and full height faceplates, so it'd fit in a regular (not SFF) case with the full height one.

A minor detail: for nVidia desktop graphics cards, I recommend downloading drivers directly from nVidia. That'd give you the latest. I believe that third party card makers don't customize drivers for desktop cards. (The story may be different for laptops.)

Please let us know how it works out for you. Should be an easy upgrade.

One of the reasons I think I"ll be sticking with the Gigabyte is that the MSI calls for 550W PSU, whereas the former calls for 450W PSU. As I won't be getting a new PSU, I figure that I will be able to get by with my 400W PSU. We'll see, and I'll surely be getting back with my results when I get the card somewhere around BF time.

 

[Eric Carlson]

It not need a adapter, but it will need better PSU that has the appropriate power connectors for this graphics card.

"not need a adapter," good news, thanks. I know a high watt PSU would be ideal, but I figure that the PC's 400W PSU should be adequate to handle the card as long as my editing doesn't get too intensive.

The 400W PS is more than adequate.

 

[Flycaster]

Well, the new RTX 4060 has been succ3essfully installed. Everything working fine and faster. Core temps only raised a little bit...no problem. And only a very slight noise coming from the card's fans. The only problem was my initially not correctly orienting the PSU's 8-pin. I was panicking that the pins were not fitting into the card's pin slots. Finally got it right. A very happy camper here. Thanks all for your help.

 

[BobKnDP]

Well, the new RTX 4060 has been succ3essfully installed. Everything working fine and faster. Core temps only raised a little bit...no problem. And only a very slight noise coming from the card's fans. The only problem was my initially not correctly orienting the PSU's 8-pin. I was panicking that the pins were not fitting into the card's pin slots. Finally got it right. A very happy camper here. Thanks all for your help.

That great.

Assuming that you've gotten the latest drivers for it (nvidia.com ), I suggest loading up the card to see whether it's entirely happy in the PC.

One way: Furmark . You can run one a benchmark at your screen resolution, and watch the temperature of the GPU rise. Few real-world applications would stress the card like Furmark can.

 

[Flycaster]

Assuming that you've gotten the latest drivers for it (nvidia.com ), I suggest loading up the card to see whether it's entirely happy in the PC.

One way: Furmark . You can run one a benchmark at your screen resolution, and watch the temperature of the GPU rise. Few real-world applications would stress the card like Furmark can.

Yes, I did install the latest drivers for the new card. And, thanks for your testing suggestion. I will give it a try and report back.